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 We Need A Revival

Let Your hand be upon the man of Your right hand, Upon the son of man whom You made strong for Yourself. Then we will not turn back from You; Revive us, and we will call upon Your name.  Restore us, O LORD God of hosts; Cause Your face to shine, And we shall be saved! Psalm 80:17-19

Will You not revive us again, That Your people may rejoice in You?  Show us Your mercy, LORD,  And grant us Your salvation. I will hear what God the LORD will speak, For He will speak peace To His people and to His saints; But let them not turn back to folly. Surely His salvation is near to those who fear Him, That glory may dwell in our land. Psalm 85:6-9

To solve any problem in life we must first admit there is a problem.  And then we must define the problem and work and pray for a solution to the problem. Brother T. Job Anbalagan of the Glory of His Cross Prophetic Ministries in his article “Revival Through Prophesy[i] ” has defined very well why we need a revival

An unsaved person is spiritually dead.  He is a lost soul, as he has not been redeemed from the sin by the Blood of Jesus.  He is to be born again in the Spirit of God.  There are millions of souls in the world awaiting revival from their spiritual death, which came through Adam. On the contrary, a saved soul is spiritually alive.  Nevertheless, he may be spiritually weak, dormant, dull, unconscious or oblivious.  He has a name that he lives but is dead (Rev.3: 1).  There are thousands of saved souls or born-again Christians in our midst, falling under this category.  Though they are born again, yet they are spiritually dumb, deaf, and blind.  They are dumb because they do not tell others about what Jesus has done for them or about the need for salvation through Jesus; they are shy of witnessing for Christ.  They are deaf because they hardly discern the voice of Jesus through the word of God; they are hard of hearing either the footsteps of the coming Messiah from above or the heart-rending cries of lost souls down from the bottomless pit.  They are blind because they do not perceive the suffering Christ in the garb of afflicted strangers who visit their houses for help or who remain sick or in prison (Matt.25: 35-40).        There are many saved Christians who slumber spiritually.  They have lost their first love for God.  Once they were zealous for God actively engaged in soul-winning or helping the mission fields.  The spirit of deep sleep has now come upon them (Is.29:10).

There are many believers who have fallen unconscious spiritually and lost their senses.  They have become indifferent to lost souls and the work in the Lord’s vineyard.  They do not have the agonizing mind of Christ.  Neither do they feel the agonies of the other members of the Body of Christ.   “…Whether one member suffers, all the members suffer with it…” (I Cor.12: 26).  They have no concern for the suffering missionaries on the mission fields or the poor saints in the House of God.

There is yet another category of Christians who are oblivious of their duties and responsibilities in the vineyard of God in this darkest hour as they give preference to the mundane things.

All these kinds of the children of God are likened to the children of Israel who have become “the dry bones” in the prophetic book of Ezekiel (Ch.1). Their lives are not different from the lives of the unsaved persons.  They are like the dry bones in the churches of God, whereas the unsaved persons are like the dry bones in the world. Prophetically speaking, all these children of God represent the last or the end-time Church of the Laodiceans who were lukewarm and were neither cold nor hot.  They are spiritually complacent and say, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing”.  However, the Holy Spirit points to them, “thou art wretched, and miserably, and poor, and blind, and naked”.  The Holy Spirit who has been constantly grieved by the lives of such children of God is still standing at the door and knocking at their hearts, unwilling to desert them because of His long-suffering.  “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me” (Rev.3: 14-22).  The bride of the Song of Solomon sleeps but her heart wakes and hears the voice of her Beloved “that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night” (Song 5:2).

Since all these children of God are the individual members of the invisible Body of Christ, the Church, they are to be revived first.  God will send a might revival to this world only through the revived members of the Body of Christ.

There are many demonic inspired movements in Christendom today that talk about a revival but they are not real revival because they don’t involve the whole body of Christ and they don’t affect society and this includes especially the ones in the Third Wave and Rodney Howard Browne and Todd Bentley which are man centered and not Christ centered!

Todd Bentley [ii] is the tattooed former criminal who in July 2008 stepped down from his controversial revival in Florida over an affair with a woman. Bentley, raised in Gibsons, B.C., was known to be a heavy drinker. During his ecstatic services he would often punch or kick sick people in the name of healing them. It wasn’t his outrageous claims of raising the dead that finally landed Todd Bentley in trouble. Not the contradictory sermons, or even his criminal past. Not the face piercings, the neck-toknee tattoos, the biker-dude lifestyle. His followers could live with all that; it was part of the act.

Bentley, a 32-year-old former drug addict from the west coast, was the hottest thing going on the global televangelist circuit. A hog-riding faith healer with a devil-may-care attitude. Then he failed his flock, the old fashioned way: cheating on his wife. Todd Bentley, disgraced, went into hiding for six months and then resurfaced.

In 2009 after the revival failed and Todd Bentley [iii] divorced his wife, Rick Joyner led the restoration team which included leaders who had vouched for Bentley’s good character in the past even as he was deceiving us all, and has posted a letter on his web page. We are informed that ‘Even so, they are married now and are resolved to make the most of their marriage, their lives, and to continue to serve the Lord in the best way that they can. ‘

Their being married far from making it right has in my view made matters even  worse and totally disqualified Todd Bentley from any reinstatement in ministry in the foreseeable future. It means there is no repentance. He has simply gone into outright rebellion by marrying his mistress. Even if his wife had chosen to divorce him, which does not seem to be the case, a more judicious, moral and righteous course of action would have been to break off this adulterous relationship and stay celibate before God Instead, he remarries quickly. And we are put before the fait accompli. Is there a recent translation of the New Testament that decrees that the solution to adultery is to quickly divorce the offended party and marry the mistress?

Canadian Revivalist Todd Bentley preached on seven fold restoration including the restoration of marriage [iv] and had a mistress during the Lakeland demonic revival and-was drunk most of the time –  He stated:

If your marriage needs to be restored then stir up your faith and ask: “My God, please, I want You to restore my marriage, and I want it to be better than it was in the first place. I want there to be double the intimacy.” Get aggressive. Don’t just settle for an “okay, restore my marriage” attitude. “Restore my marriage and give it to me double!”

So why did Todd divorce his wife and not practice what he preached? Because he is a hypocrite, a false one, a son of hell just like all the preachers in the Third Wave!

Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson being both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, could  only reinforce TB’s behavior. TB’s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” had absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections were not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is much material  on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age especially  http://newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html

Rodney Howard Browne [v] made his ministry known in the USA by playing to a large audience at the Charismatic Carpenter’s Home Church in 1993 and 1994. Through approval by Benny Hinn, who launched him at his own meeting, and Kenneth Copeland’s church meeting along with airplay by TBN He brought the new thing to naïve and silly Christians who were open for just about anything to happen and call it God. And so the new latter rain movement got a shot in the arm with laughing hysterically and being inebriated on the floor.

Rodney who believes in nepotism in his meetings taught that not only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members.

Rodney also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do!  So he blessed thieving Karl Strader with a new Lincoln town car with money raised from the dumb sheep when Karl robbed him but refused to help any of Dan Strader’s victims [vi].

James Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries writes in his article  The Delusional World Of Mark Stibbe & St Andrews Chorleywood [vii]:

From Kansas City to the religious fiasco in Toronto, to the failed revival at Brownsville resulting in a major church split and public financial scandal, and on to the infamous heresy and abuse of Lakeland. The same odious characters at the core attracting like-minded charlatans including the Strader brothers, Daniel imprisoned until 2036 for defrauding elderly Christians out of $3 million and Stephen who was thought by the judge to be just as guilty.

After Bentley’s exposure in the USA on ABC Nightline he was swiftly removed from ministry to prevent further scrutiny. Not only was he unable to provide evidence of a single healing, many who were pronounced healed have since died. Furthermore the Arnold Palmer Hospital has stated that claims of resurrections were bogus

For those that don’t know, in 2008 (April to July) there was a revival in Lakeland Florida where people were thrown around by some invisible force (which they, Charisma Magazine insisted was the Holy Spirit). People shook violently on stage claiming the most bizarre manifestations, visions and visitations by angles. Todd Bentley punched and kicked people to heal them, spoke of visiting people in dreams and also told of countless trips to heaven where he once stuffed his pockets with gold from a treasury room. He blasphemously baptised people in the name of the father, the son and the bam. But who could forget the 39 people claimed risen from the dead.

The jerking in Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland or any other revival place is not a sign of the Holy Spirit but of a Kundalini demon which infiltrated Christianity mainly in North America through Rodney Howard Browne!  The fact is the bible never talks about “jerking” being an attribute of the Holy Spirit but rather it states but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control THE KEY WORD HERE IS SELF-CONTROL AND WHEN YOU ARE POSSESSED BY A DEMONIC KUNDALINI SPIRIT THERE IS NO CONTROL AND THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG AND AGAINST SCRIPTURE!

Pastor/Evangelist Gordon Williams [viii] in his posting “Todd Bentley Is Not A Christian” states:

Jesus heals, I must disagree with you when you wrote, “Miracles and gifts of the spirit don’t validate a Christian. The fruit of the spirit validates a Christian. peace, love, patience, hope, joy, faith.” First, you did not mention all of the fruit of the Spirit but I know what you mean (Gal. 5: 22 -23). The reason why I disagree with you is because you continuously mis-identify people, like Todd Bentley as a Christian. He is not a Christian nor are those who go chasing after the counterfeit signs and so-called miracles that he and others misrepresent as being from the Holy Spirit. Real Christian Believers do not get deceived and offer counterfeits because they draw attention to themselves and they cannot tell the difference between the work of the Holy Spirit and the work of the devil and demons. They do not do the things that the New Testament tells us clearly are the work and character of authentic Christian believers. They glory in their sin and make excuses for their adulterous work, drunkenness and love of money to say nothing of all the works of the flesh which they seem to think are the fruit of the Holy Spirit. As a man once told me: “If it doesn’t look like a sheep, and eat like a sheep and talk like a sheep and do sheep things, it isn’t a sheep”. Well, just stop and look at all the un-Scriptural things these people are doing. They do not look like Christians, they don’t eat as Christians, they do not talk like Christians and they do not do Christian things. So, they are not Christians.

Jesus tells us that the “signs” following confirm the preaching of the Word and prove who are authentic believers. This is very clear when you examine the Greek definition of “signs”. They were the reason why Nicodemus said to Jesus, “Rabbi, we know that you are a man sent from God; for no man could do these signs that you do, unless God is with him” (Jn. 3: 2). The legitimate 15 Gifts of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12: 6 – 8; 1 Cor. 12: 8 – 10)prove that we are authentic believers. The fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5: 22 – 23) describes the Character of Jesus which the Holy Spirit develops us so that we can use the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Because the real or authentic Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not being used and encouraged with these counterfeit Christians who demonstrate counterfeit gifts, we have to be very careful in choosing our words as I think you have done in your letter. I learned a long time ago that there are “Christians” and there are “christians” (religious people) who are not believers. People, like the person you mentioned who received healing and made the mistake of attributing it to Todd Bentley has not learned that whoever calls on Jesus will catch Jesus’ attention, even while watching a deceptive person pretending to be a believer, and answer their prayer and heal them. When I examine these counterfeit Christians, according to Scripture, they are not believers according to Jesus Christ. Because most pastors and churches do not encourage the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and use the 15 Gifts of the Holy Spirit, they are easy victims when the counterfeits are demonstrated. This is an important ministry that we have in the churches that I am invited to preach and do ministry. As you know it is “to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ” (Eph. 4: 12). So, I suggest that you do not look upon such people as Christians because they are not

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Baal-ogna!

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Baal-ogna! Wrong Source for the Prophet

We live in the last days. There are thousands of false prophets in America today. Their source of knowledge is not from God but they say they have heard from God. What is their source of knowledge? Jeremiah said about the false prophets of his time:

“They prophesied by Baal and caused My people Israel to err.” (23:13) They speak a vision of their own heart, not from the mouth of the Lord. (23:16) “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran. I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. (23:21) “I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in My name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ “How long will this be in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies? Indeed they are prophets of the deceit of their own heart, “who try to make My people forget My name by their dreams which everyone tells his neighbor, as their fathers forgot My name for Baal. (23:23-27)

Many false prophets today just speak from their own heart and have not heard from God. Some have dreams and say they are from God when they are not. However in this article I wish to share how the modern false prophet is receiving his source of knowledge by Baal. These same prophets are so blinded by deceit that they do not know that their messages are from the Evil One himself, Satan.

Today false prophets are receiving their messages from the spirit world. This spirit world is the world of demons. This spirit world is the same universal source of knowledge from which the new age witches, chanellers, and sorcerers receive their knowledge. Not only are false prophets today receiving messages from the wrong source, they are preaching that their knowledge is from God. Beware! I wish to give you three examples of false prophets today that receive their messages from the spirit world. This spirit world is not our source of information for the prophetic gift nor the prophetic office.

Mark Virkler

When Mark meditates he stills his mind just like a New Ager. When we prays it is better to not think of God, says Mark. Again he says; “Thinking about God could constitute reasoning.” He takes the same position as New Agers and says that as we meditate we move “internally from a left-brained posture to a right-brained posture.” He admits that angels, demons, the Holy Spirit, the omnipresent God and Jesus exists around him. Now he had learned to see into this spirit world and has heard from God. Mark says: “I have received no instruction on how to open the eyes of my heart to the spirit world. You may discover that inner visions come so easily, you are tempted to reject them thinking they’re a product of your mind. But if you record them, you will soon recognize that they can only be from God.” How does recording visions help you recognize their source?

This scientific method of meditation has become a way into the presence of God where Mark says that he hears and sees visions from God. Baal-ogna! This is receiving a message from Baal, the evil one, the deceiver, and the liar. His thoughts only come from the inward self that transcends the material world and into an altered state of consciousness. God does not reveal himself in such a manner.

The Whole Process of a Prophetic Word by Larry Randolf

Larry Randolf says: “Revelation is the first state in the development of prophecy. This is where initial contact is made with the spirit world and prophetic information is obtained.” I ask you, where in the New Testament did Jesus teach the disciples how to enter into a spirit world to receive from God? Never!

Randolf also admits that in this state of sensitivity to revelatory communication that man is also subject to human opinions, “soulish impressions, and even familiar spirits.” Would God in heaven lead his people into such a state of mind whereby man could be confused by familiar spirits? Never! Jesus taught the disciples to pray in the Lord’s Prayer: “Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.”

Because there are mixed voices in this spirit world, Larry Randolf says that he must decide what is from God and what isn’t from God. Believe me. When God speaks, you will know His voice and it will not be confusing. Jesus said in John’s gospel, “My sheep will know my voice.” When God spoke to a prophet of Bible days there was no confusion and doubt as to who was speaking. If you have to wonder or question if something is from God then it is not.

After deciding what is from God, Larry Randolf says that he now must give his dream an interpretation. Even Daniel could not interpret dreams. Only God could because only God knew the future. Do you want to be lead by the words of a prophet who had to discover what the interpretation is for a dream that came from the spirit world? Baal-ogna! … Beware!

The Prophecy of Rick Joyner

Rick Joyner in his latest book called “The Call” claims that he receives messages from the dead saints and prophets. He says:

“I also understand how the nature of some of these revelations would cause theological problems for some. One of these would certainly be the way that I met and talked with many Old and New Testament characters, as well as prominent people in church history who are now dead. There are biblical precedents for this such as when the Lord talked to Moses and Elijah. We also have the example when the apostle John fell down to worship the angel in Rev 22:9. The angel rebuked John, declaring that he too was a fellow servant of his brethren. Many have understood this to indicate that this was one of the saints who had gone on to be with the Lord.” P19

We are not Christ who is able to communicate with all spirits. Elijah never died but went to heaven in a whirlwind. Moses’ body was never found. It says that the Angels buried him but it’s possible that he never died either but was taken up to heaven. Joyner’s argument from Revelation is so ridiculous that it needs no reply.

Talking to the dead is what the witches and wizards do. God has forbidden one to consult with familiar spirits.

“There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD:” Deut 18

How can Joyner now justify what God had condemned? There is also no catholic mystic that can justify their visitations with dead saints or prophets. This only means one thing. Their experience is not from God. Their visitations are not of God. They know not the voice of God for God does not contradict Himself. Beware of false experiences. An experience no matter how convincing, it is may not be from God.

What does it mean to prophesy by Baal? The story of Balaam explains. (Numbers 22-25) Moab was threatened by the multitudes of the children of Israel so he called for Balaam who lived in Pethor in Mesopotamia later called Babylon. He was a diviner. He was seeker of familiar spirits. He was rich because of his curses that he pronounced. He was a prophet of Baal. The Moabites came with their divination gifts for Balaam and took him to the high places where they worshipped Baal to offer sacrifice and pronounce a curse upon Israel. But the scriptures tell us:

“Surely there is no enchantment against Jacob, neither is there any divination against Israel: according to this time it shall be said of Jacob and of Israel, What hath God wrought! ”

Balaam went three times to seek familiar spirits. Each time the God of Israel intervened. Balaam could not curse Israel whom God had blessed and chosen. Finally Balaam went to God and did not seek enchantments as he had done before. He then prophesied from God.

And when Balaam saw that it pleased the LORD to bless Israel, he went not, as at other times, to seek for enchantments, but he set his face toward the wilderness. 2And Balaam lifted up his eyes, and he saw Israel abiding in his tents according to their tribes; and the spirit of God came upon him. 3And he took up his parable, and said, Balaam the son of Beor hath said, and the man whose eyes are open hath said: 4He hath said, which heard the words of God, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open: 5How goodly are thy tents, O Jacob, and thy tabernacles, O Israel! 6As the valleys are they spread forth, as gardens by the river’s side, as the trees of lign aloes which the LORD hath planted, and as cedar trees beside the waters. 7He shall pour the water out of his buckets, and his seed shall be in many waters, and his king shall be higher than Agag, and his kingdom shall be exalted. 8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows. 9He couched, he lay down as a lion, and as a great lion: who shall stir him up? Blessed is he that blesseth thee, and cursed is he that curseth thee. Num 24

There was a difference between the way Balaam sought God the last time. God does not give prophecy to a man that seeks familiar spirits. The Spirit of God comes upon a man that has his eyes opened and his heart turned to God. The source of the voice of the Holy Spirit can never be found in the same spirit world where evil voices are also found. If you are a true prophet of God the origin of the message should never have to be discerned. The voice of the Holy Spirit never brings confusion.

The modern prophet says the following to determine the source of the gift.

“You are to ask yourself: Is it from the Spirit of God or from Satan or from the Spirit of truth or the spirit or error?” Hamon, Prophets Pitfalls and Principles. Pg.121

What is wrong with this statement? We should never have to question the source of true prophecy. God never leaves the prophet in doubt. He will always be 100 percent sure when God speaks and his prophecies will be 100 percent accurate. The real prophet does not depend upon unusual receptivity into the spirit world but yields only to the Holy Spirit.

How can a true vessel of God, who claims to be a prophet, become subjected to false prophecy as is written here? Be not deceived. Do not fall for the Baal-ogna of false prophets today.

Carolyn ruth Chapman
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GOLD DUST

HAJoshua Mills with supernatural gold dust in high quality

Why do you not see that this is DEMONIC THIRD WAVE CHURCH? Joshua Mills along with so many others in the Charismatic Church are being used to deceive millions. He claimed to have eaten gold leaves from the tree of life, he claimed that God sent oil from Heaven by way of his feet, and he stood on cloths and sold them for a donation (but it’s only free if you send him a generous contribution first), his wife claims their son was born covered in gold dust…and, remember the time that he said his water turned to wine? He was in his hotel room when it happened, of course. Now Mills is claiming that in a meeting in Auckland, New Zealand, during a super-uber anointed service, a lady saw Jesus standing above the congregation. He claims the lady saw Jesus with tears streaming down His face and His arms stretched out wide. He then says a drop of blood fell from Jesus’s forehead, and it fell into the congregation. He says he didn’t know this “vision” was going on – he didn’t find that out until later – but as coincidence would have it, he all of a sudden felt a drop of a warm liquid in his hand. Looking down, he saw a drop of blood from Jesus Christ Himself!

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GOLD TEETH AND DUST AND FEATHERS

One Saturday night in Hamilton, Ontario, Canadian Evangelist/Pastor Gordon Williams  of Toronto http://gordwilliams.com/  said  much about GOLD TEETH AND DUST AND FEATHERS  phenomenon  in the demonic Third Wave  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ya1sOM_5L0

Gordon told about this specific lady went to a Toronto airport meeting recently  and had  so called gold dust stuck all over her body and it would not come off. Gordon made her repent for going there and prayed for her deliverance and it left!

Gordon said a dentist examined the so called gold teeth on 34 people including John Arnott and it turned out they were not gold on them but sulfur which is a chemical reaction on the teeth. The so called Jewels and stones that appear in the meetings are also a joke as they have no monetary value!

And he pointed out that 1 Corinthians 4 says all of these signs and wonders are wrong as they are not in the New Testament beyond what is written
1 Corinthians 4: 6 now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

Gordon also said all TV evangelists and ministries today are off the wall because they are all about money and money is the root of all evil and especially the food salesman Jim Bakker, adulterous Peter Youngren, the deceiving Benny Hinn.

GORDON ALSO POINTED OUT THAT ALL THESE TV EVANGELISTS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES OR THEIR HAND PICKED BOARD. He said people were to stay away from Third Wave events and stop trusting any TV evangelist or preacher!

It’s true Reinhardt Bonnke and Heidi baker together have won millions of Africans who were once upon a time Muslims to Christ  see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46yjc7xgvk

Gordon speaking about the love of money being the root of all evil  was also criticizing  David Yonggi Cho  and his recent arrest

David Yonggi Cho of Yoido full gospel church, the world largest Pentecostal church, has some serious problems.  Yonggi has been indicted on charges of breach of trust by prosecutors.  The indictment involves millions in misappropriated church money and additional charges of tax evasion.

Yonggi, 77, senior pastor at the church is suspected of breach of trust resulting in 10 billion won (us$9.2 million) in losses to his church. Also he is being investigated on suspicion of 6 billion won (us$5.52 million) in tax evasion.

Cho’s son, hee-jun, 48,the secretary general for the church, has already been taken into custody over the matter, which has shaken the religious community.

http://www.ynaija.com/senior-pastor-at-worlds-largest-pentecostal-church-gets-indicted-for-financial-fraud/

The bottom line is Third Wave preachers and fools and deceivers still get sick. They still die of cancer unhealed. Their marriages fall apart. They struggle with alcohol. They commit adultery. They are devoid of real honesty, integrity, truth and accountability. They run away from constructive biblical criticism, judgment and rebuke and throw false words around like “Judge Not!” Touch not my anointed” and “You are off the devil.” Their arrogance and snobbery stinks to high heaven! Their so called miracles and healing are not substantiated or documented in the news media!  They would like to have us believe that Jesus said:
“When I go away i will send the Holy Spirit who will cause you to twitch, shake, quake and behave like animals?”

They love to talk about “soaking” but there are negative sides to soaking that nobody talks about and the fact that many are simply losing their minds and are being put on psychotropic drugs because they are “bi-polar” or “schizophrenic” which completes the job of the devil totally stealing their minds. There are millions now ensnared by the powers of the Devil while many brainless pastors stand over them fanning them with their new gospel MANTRA of shouting, “more lord, more lord,” which shows people jerking, twitching, acting like animals; barking like dogs; mooing like cows; howling like hyenas’; clucking like chickens; laughing uncontrollably and even having imaginative sexual experiences on the carpets of churches. This insane, feel good gospel may be filling their churches sinful people but it is also filling it with hardcore devils and pay day is just around the corner – EMPTY CHURCHES and God’s judgment!

And then we have the “Carpet Time”! During the so called Revival conducted by Rodney Howard Browne, in 1993-94, in the now nonexistent defunct Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland Florida, many people spent “Carpet Time” on the floor. And what good did it produce them or anybody including Dan Strader who was robbing and raping the sheep with the help of his father Senior Pastor Karl Strader during the revival? None!

Few had heard of Rodney Howard-Browne before he led a series of revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida in 1993. A lot has happened since then; some of it is commendable, and some of it is reprehensible. In theory Browne came to America from South Africa to “revive” a largely sleeping church. He quickly got labeled as a Holy Ghost “bartender” because of the manifestations of “holy laughter” dominating his ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members. Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida, for the bible stated:

1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

South African Pentecostal Evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne, a white supremacist in theology, who immigrated with all his brothers and parents to United States became a naturalized American and taught that “sheep needed to be fleeced or they would have too much hair and could not see where they are going.. It was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep had been credited with bringing the laughter revival to America. But from what really happened in Carpenter’s Home Church in 1993 and 1994 and its devastating effect on the community including the robbing, raping and murdering of the sheep, was not much of a revival.

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, was robbed of $100,000.00 by Pastor Karl Strader and his son Dan Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church Lakeland, Florida. Rodney, who was a personal friend of Karl Strader who practiced nepotism, and bought him a Lincoln town car, was asked to help the elderly victims who were robbed by the Straders and he refused. But when German Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke’s decided to relocate his ministry to Florida, Rodney Howard-Browne decided he would give Bonnke a house. At first he offered Bonnke his own house in Tampa, but Bonnke had to locate in Orlando to be closer to his operational base. It was then that Howard-Browne decided to build Bonnke a new $250,000 home in Orlando. Rodney then drove a brand new car to Bonnke’s driveway.

How gracious and wonderful of Rodney to be a respecter of persons to the high and mighty and to ignore the real plight of the poor and needy?

Many Third Wave Pentecostals whose prophecies are false and are really ignorant of Scriptures like to spend “Carpet Time” and compete with each other as if it were some kind of a competition to see who is more spiritual than the other. None of them is “spiritual” in terms of the Holy Spirit but, being harassed and possessed with demons, they are satisfied with a so-called counterfeit “form of religion denying the power of it” (2 Tim. 3: 5). The rest of the verse says, “Avoid such people.” The Greek word means to “turn one’s self away”. And, if they do not turn away, they have nobody to blame but themselves. What they don’t realize is that if you are soaking yourself in bad teaching, a person will drown themselves to the point that they will lose their salvation or never be able to know the full life of Salvation and the real Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Fortunately, we have seen many of such people come for help and receive the exciting new life in Jesus Christ empowered by the Baptism of Holy Spirit. The uncontrolled shaking epileptic-like symptoms disappear immediately after we cast the demons out and is replaced with Fruit of the Spirit: “love, joy, peace,self-control, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control” (Gal. 5: 22 – 23). Soaking results in “spiritual drowning”!

The Holy Spirit is a person of Integrity and Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts and Karl Strader are not only wolves in sheep’s Clothing but devoid of integrity. Rodney is known for teaching that the pastors must fleece and sheep and Richard was forced to resign as President of ORU for embezzlement of money. Rodney arrived in America penniless and became a multi millionaire without doing an honest day’s work. And the Roberts “seed faith” teaching is just a shrewd method to rob the poor and needy and make the Roberts rich!

Yes the so called Third Wave leaders who are also supposed to be Apostles, Prophets and men of God not only have no integrity but are liars, thieves, manipulators and scoundrels. Their leaders suffer from Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)   in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process and they include scoundrels Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts, Stephen Strader, Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, Benny Hinn and Patricia King. And let’s not forget Rick Joyner, Stacey Campbell, Dutch Sheets, and Peter C. Wagner).

DAN STRADER IS NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

KARL STRADER’S MASSIVE CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH IS AN ALBATROSS AND PASTOR KARL STRADER IS HISTORY – WITHOUT WALLS CENTRAL, formerly Carpenter’s Home Church, isn’t in use and power has been disconnected. http://www.theledger.com/article/20111226/NEWS/111229474 http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

Laughing Clark WENT DOWN IN FLAMES http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148050/

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9

HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/

An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm

TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu

RICK JOYNER THE FOOL http://apprising.org/2012/06/07/the-colossians-heresy-part-3/

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

STACEY CAMPBELL THE WITCH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VIR82MGqE

Pope Francis meets US televangelists, and the first-ever ‘papal high-five’ follows

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/07/09/pope-francis-meets-u-s-televangelist-first-ever-papal-high-five-follows/

THE BIG MISTAKE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Jc

“SIGNS, WONDERS AND MIRACLES!” http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1cX

GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry

THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NATIONAL AWAKENING http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

BI-SEXUAL SCOUNDREL JIM-BAKKER http://www.scribd.com/doc/211951342

2014 THE YEAR OF ENEMIES IN MEGA CHURCHES http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-enemies

http://www.redding.com/news/bethels-signs-and-wonders-include-angel-feathers

 

 

 

THE BIG MISTAKE

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RAVENOUS WOLVES MEETING WITH EACH OTHER (MATT. 7: 15)!

Evangelical charismatics = NO DISCERNMENT. They lean on their own understanding, extra biblical “dreams, visions and “words of knowledge” instead of Sola Scriptura – Scripture alone — Well look at them now >>> The names of the delegates in the photograph (Left to Right) are: Carol Arnott, John Arnott (Partners in Harvest), Brian Stiller (World Evangelical Alliance), Kenneth Copeland (KCM), Pope Francis, Thomas Schirrmacher (WEA), Geoff Tunnicliffe (WEA), James & Betty Robison (Life Outreach International) and Tony Palmer (The Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches & The Order of the Ark Community).

The big mistake that is being made is that these people are not “Charismatic Christians” but rather they are “false Charismatic Evangelical Christians”. It is a dis-service to the Holy Spirit to call them “Charismatic” because they have counterfeit/false gifts which do not come from the Holy Spirit: false prophecy, false tongues, false everything (Matt. 24: 24; Mk. 13: 22). Their false works tell us clearly that they “have received the mark of the beast” (Rev. 19: 20). They are not of the fellowship of Jesus Christ as you can see them standing together with the pope. I guess the best thing we can say about them is that they are today’s Scribes and Pharisees of whom, as Jesus said, “You are wrong because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29).

Jesus publically rebuked Pharisees and even called them names. (Go reread the gospels).

Many mistakenly believe that it is wrong to expose error and to name the guilty teachers; but they are wrong according to the Bible. They warned by letter and by Mouth those to shun and to avoid.
Paul named Peter publicly.
Paul named Demas for loving the world.
Paul named Hymenaeus and Alexander.
Paul named Hymenaeus and Philetus.
Paul named Alexander the coppersmith.
John named Diotrephes

What kind of love lets wolves like these men decimate the flock of God. If you were about to drink deadly poison, would it be love for me to stand by and not warn you?

The Pope teaches another gospel and another Jesus and worships, prays to and bows down to Mary. He is an idol worshipper. What fellowship has light with darkness?

The Bible Admonishes us to expose error, not join in with it and condone it.

Eph 5:11 “Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them”

“Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. ” 2 Tim 4:2-3

“A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;” Titus 3:10

But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.” 1 Cor 5:11-13

“Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.” 2 Thess 3:6

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? — Mark 8:36

On the 21 st of January this year (2014) during his organisation’s annual “Minister’s Conference”, Kenneth Copeland, his “ministry”, and attendees received a personal video message from Pope Francis. Kenneth Copeland Ministries’ YouTube channel says, concerning the message, that everyone was “greatly inspired”[1] by it.

What was everyone inspired about? That Pope Francis called the protestant reformation the sin of disunity[2] and that he is looking forward to protestant’s repenting and coming back into the fold? Pope Francis didn’t make that statement in exactly those words, but this is what it boils down to, what it always boils down to with the Roman Catholic Church.

The Roman Catholic Church has always believed, and still believes, that it is the doorway to God and heaven, that the Pope is the Head of the Church, and that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ (rather than the Holy Spirit). Has the Roman Catholic Church repented of its doctrine of transubstantiation (i.e. bread and wine turning into the body and blood of Christ during the Mass)? No. Has the Roman Catholic Church repented of its heretical doctrine of purgatory (atoning in purgatory for your own sins, rather than Christ alone atoning for your sins)? No. … and then there is a host of other heretical, if not blasphemous teachings for which the Roman Catholic Church and their Pontiffs are responsible and of which they have never repented.

What did the reformers die for? Nothing according to the Pope, and apparently Kenneth Copeland agrees with him. The reformers said, “NO!” to the Popes of their day, “NO!” to the Roman Catholic Church, and “YES!” to God and His Word. The Reformation came about through the reading of the Bible (as opposed to it being hidden by being read in Latin when the common folk did not understand it). The Roman Catholic Church has always tried to hide, shroud and conceal the Word of God – Kenneth Copeland has merely joined their ranks.

Kenneth Copeland has gone from being a popular False Prophet, to being profitable for the counter-reformation movement of Rome. All this does is to further confirm that Kenneth Copeland is not only a false prophet, but a wolf in sheep’s clothing. A true prophet hears from and speaks the Word of God, which does not contradict Scripture. Where is spirit-led-Copeland headed? To the city on seven hills, to Rome, to the Vatican, to Spiritual Babylon.

And he carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness; and I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast, full of blasphemous names, having seven heads and ten horns. The woman was clothed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a gold cup full of abominations and of the unclean things of her immorality, and on her forehead a name was written, a mystery, “BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” And I saw the woman drunk with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the witnesses of Jesus. When I saw her, I wondered greatly. — Revelation 17:3-6

Peter, in his first epistle (1 Peter 5:13), euphemistically called Rome (where he was at the time) Babylon. Peter knew it, the first-century Christians knew it, the reformers knew it, but the Profit Copeland doesn’t, or he doesn’t care.

There is more to say regarding Kenneth Copeland, Charismatics, Emergents and the Road to Rome … but we will bring you more in a future edition of CETF.

Endnotes:

[1] “Pope Francis’ Message to Kenneth Copeland Ministries, Calling”, www site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eulTwytMWlQ, 27 Feb 2014, cited 3 Jun 2014.
[2] Pope Francis’ message is irenic, and regarding Roman Catholic and Protestant disunity he said, “…it’s sin that has separated us, all our sins. The misunderstandings throughout history. It has been a long road of sins that we all shared in. Who is to blame? We all share the blame. We have all sinned. There is only one blameless, the Lord.” But, one must remember that many of the Protestant Reformers at the outset of the Reformation were ex-Roman Catholic priests. There was no “misunderstanding”; they knew full well what Rome taught and knew how Catholic doctrine and dogma corrupted the Word of God. And Rome knew full well why the Reformers left – and that is why Pope after Pope has pronounced anathemas against Protestants. All that is happening now is that the Devil is trying a different tact.
http://www.cwm.org.au/latest-cetf/359-from-false-prophet-to-pope-s-profit

Heresy Preacher Priest Tony Palmer Dead After Urging Christians To Unite With Rome

| July 21, 2014 | 4 Comments

God appears to have relieved Tony Palmer of his command

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4

Just months after Anglican priest and personal friend to Pope Francis Tony Palmer gave  a rousing performance urging Christians to place themselves under the authority of the Roman Catholic system, he appears to have died suddenly in a motorcycle accident.

Tony Palmer had said that he was a “prophet in the spirit of Elijah”, and that his mission was to unite the Christian evangelical church with the Roman Catholic system. He declared “Martin Luther’s protest to be over”, and said that it was time for “Christians to come home to Rome”.  Tony’s deluded vision of seeing Christians “coming home to Rome” will also die with him.

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“Tony Palmer, the charismatic young preacher who enjoyed a friendship with Pope Francis, has apparently died in a motorcycle accident,” Kathy Schiffer reported on her Seasons of Grace blog. “Not a Catholic, Palmer was bishop in the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, a group that broke away from the Anglican Church and considered itself part of the Convergence Movement.”

SO WHEN IS THE POPE GOING TO GIVE AWAY THE WEALTH OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH TO FEED AND CLOTHE THE POOR?

Mark 10:21 Then Jesus, looking at him, loved him, and said to him, “One thing you lack: Go your way, sell whatever you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, take up the cross, and follow Me.”

popeWhy Did Copeland, Robison Meet With Pope Francis?

8:00AM EDT 7/7/2014 Rick Wiles
Pope Francis with evangelicals (Life Outreach)

Two prominent Fort Worth-based Christian ministers led a delegation of Evangelical Christian leaders to Rome to meet privately with Pope Francis.

James and Betty Robison, co-hosts of the Life Today television program, and Kenneth Copeland, co-host of Believer’s Voice of Victory, met the Roman Pontiff at the Vatican on Tuesday.  The meeting lasted almost three hours and included a private luncheon with Pope Francis.

Mr. Robison told the Fort Worth Star Telegram, “This meeting was a miracle…. This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.”

Mr. Robison said he was impressed by Pope Francis’ humility and courtesy to the visiting delegation of Evangelical Protestant Christian leaders.

In a written statement, Mr. Robison said he believes “the prayers of earnest Christians helped lead to the choice of Pope Francis.”  He described Jorge Mario Bergoglio, the Argentine Archbishop chosen as Pope, as “a humble man…filled with such love for the poor, downtrodden…”

In addition to Mrs. Betty Robison, the high-profile Protestant delegation included Kenneth Copeland, co-founder of Kenneth Copeland Ministries in Newark, TX; Reverend Geoff Tunnicliff, CEO of the World Evangelical Alliance; Rev. Brian Stiller and Rev. Thomas Schirrmacher, also from the World Evangelical Alliance; and Rev. John Arnott and his wife, Carol, co-founders of Partners for Harvest ministries in Toronto, Canada.  Gloria Copeland did not travel to Rome because of a previously scheduled commitment.

The ecumenical meeting in Rome was organized by Episcopal Bishop Tony Palmer.  Rev. Palmer is an ordained bishop in the Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches, a break-away alliance of charismatic Anglican-Episcopal churches.  Bishop Palmer is also the Director of The Ark Community, an international interdenominational Convergent Church online community, and is a member of the Roman Catholic Ecumenical Delegation for Christian Unity and Reconciliation.

Bishop Palmer developed a friendship with Pope Francis when the future Roman Pontiff was a Catholic official in Argentina.  Prior to becoming a CEEC bishop, Rev. Palmer was the director of the Kenneth Copeland Ministries’ office in South Africa.  He is married to an Italian Roman Catholic woman.  He later moved to Italy and began working to reconcile Roman Catholics and Protestants.  Kenneth Copeland Ministries was one of Mr. Palmer’s first financial contributors over 10 years ago in support of his ecumenical work in Italy.

Earlier this year, Pope Francis called Bishop Palmer to invite him to his residence in Vatican City.  During the meeting, Bishop Palmer suggested that the Pope record a personal greeting on Mr. Palmer’s iPhone to be delivered to Kenneth Copeland.  Mr. Copeland showed the Papal video greeting to a conference of Protestant ministers who were meeting at Mr. Copeland’s Eagle Mountain International Church near Fort Worth, Texas.  In the video, Pope Francis expressed his desire for Christian unity with Protestants.

Later, James Robison telecasted the video on his daily TV program, Life Today.  “The pope, in the video, expressed a desire for Protestants and Catholics to become what Jesus prayed for — that Christians would become family and not be divided,” Mr. Robison said the response to the video was very positive, and that Pope Francis asked Bishop Palmer whether a meeting could be arranged with Evangelical Protestants seeking Christian unity in the world.

In his written statement released after the Papal meeting, Mr. Robison said he was “blessed to be part of perhaps an unprecedented moment between evangelicals and the Catholic Pope.”  He described the Protestant delegation’s private meeting with the leader of the Roman Catholic Church as “an intimate circle of prayerful discussion and lunch to discuss not only seeing Jesus’ prayer answered, but that every believer would become a bold, joy-filled witnesses for Christ.

In describing the ecumenical gathering as a miracle, Mr. Robison said, “This is something God has done. God wants his arms around the world. And he wants Christians to put his arms around the world by working together.”

During the luncheon on Tuesday, Mr. Robison got a high-five from Pope Francis after the Pope and Protestant guests talked about the need for all people to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.  According to the Life Today host, the Roman Pontiff did not know what a high-five was until Bishop Palmer explained it to him in Italian.  Mr. Robison said, “The Pope made it very clear that he wanted every believer to become Spirit-filled, joy-filled witnesses.”

Mr. Robison said Pope Francis had written recently, “Too many Catholics look like they’ve been to Lent with no Easter. It’s a mistake for them to look like they’ve been to a funeral” as he challenged Catholics to witness and never try to control the Holy Spirit, but yield to Him.

Mr. Robison said he received a divine call from God to seek Christian unity while he was hospitalized several years ago with a serious staph infection following hip surgery.  Robison recalled, “[I] was so weak I could not lift a cup of water to my lips…God got my full attention…He spoke to me through Isaiah 58:6-12 and I saw the importance of living in freedom, touching the suffering, the hungry, poor, and downtrodden. I recognized the promise that our prayers would be answered quickly and we would become a free-flowing stream and a well-watered garden, restoring the foundations upon which we must build. During that time God instructed me to focus my attention on Jesus’ prayer and encouraging others to begin fulfilling it through us in our day.”

During that time, he said, he was impressed by a prayer of Jesus in John 17:21, pleading that all Christian believers be one.  “We’ve tried to focus on being an answer to Jesus’ prayer,” Robison said. “We want to see Jesus’ prayer for unity answered in our day.”

Aware that the meeting with the Pope will be troublesome among staunch Protestants, Mr. Robison said he and the other visiting Evangelical Christian leaders talked about diversity and their belief that Roman Catholics and Protestants could work together without compromising their beliefs.

“The world is suffering,” said Robison. “We as Christians have too much love to share without fighting one another.”

Mr. Robison said he and other “respected Evangelical leaders and Spirit-filled Catholics began meeting together to pray for God’s will to be done and to bring true believers together in supernatural unity….We have been commanded to love God with all of our heart and our neighbors as ourselves. The enemy has kept many Christians from loving one another as Christ loves us and have failed to recognize the importance of supernatural unity even with all of the unique diversity.”

Mr. Robison, whose ministry digs water wells and supplies food for impoverished people in third-world nations, recounted that he was christened as a fatherless boy in an Episcopal Church.  As an adult, he joined the Southern Baptist Church.  In the 1980s, he became one of the first prominent Southern Baptist ministers to openly proclaim he had received the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

Pope Francis Meets With Kenneth Copeland, James Robison – High Fives Ensue

Pope Francis meets with Copeland and Robison
Televangelists including Kenneth Copeland and James Robison met with Pope Francis, resulting in the first ever papal “high-five.” (LIFE Outreach International, Kenneth Copeland Ministries)

What does it take to produce the first-ever papal high-five? A meeting with American televangelists, apparently.

The gesture came during a three-hour meeting of Pope Francis and Texas televangelists Kenneth Copeland and James Robison, just weeks after the pontiff met with televangelist Joel Osteen and other religious leaders. At the June 24 meeting, Robison said he was so moved by Pope Francis’ message of the gospel that he asked the translator to ask Francis for a high-five. The pope obliged, raised his arm and the two men smacked hands.

The televangelists are among some wealthier U.S. evangelicals who have recently met with Francis, who has called for a focus on the poor and a simple lifestyle for clergy. In March, the pope met with members of the Green family, the Oklahoma billionaires whose company, Hobby Lobby, won their challenge to President Obama’s contraception coverage mandate at the Supreme Court last week.

Robison said he was born into the Episcopal Church but didn’t have a “born-again” conversion until later in life, the kind of story he sees among many Protestants and Catholics. “There are a lot of evangelicals and Catholics who don’t know Christ,” he said.

In fact, Francis’ meeting may reflect a shift in emphasis within the papacy. His predecessor, Benedict XVI, regularly bemoaned the decline of Christianity in his native Germany and across Europe. In contrast, the Argentine Francis comes from a region where competition from Pentecostalism is one of the biggest challenges facing the Catholic Church, Peppard said.

As unusual as it might seem for a pope meet with celebrity Protestant preachers, the potential awkwardness goes both ways. While some praised Robison for going to Rome, others said Protestants and Catholics have too many differences, on issues that include the role of the Bible, saints, the status of the Virgin Mary and the nature of salvation. “Very disappointed in you James and Betty. Never forget the Inquisition — Never forget!” one commenter wrote on Robison’s website.

But Robison said he and Francis found common ground in caring for the poor.

“I don’t see him as presenting himself as infallible,” Robison said of Pope Francis. “He’s been to confession. He asks for prayer. He’s anxious to apologize on (behalf) of Catholic leadership.”

Osteen’s meeting with Francis on June 4 was part of a larger gathering coordinated by the International Foundation, also known as “the Fellowship.” Osteen was joined by Utah Sen. Mike Lee, a Mormon; California pastor Tim Timmons; and Gayle D. Beebe, president of evangelical Westmont College.

The June 24 meeting leaned particularly toward charismatic Christianity. Other guests were Anthony Palmer, a bishop and international ecumenical officer with the independent Communion of Evangelical Episcopal Churches; Geoff Tunnicliffe, the outgoing head of the Worldwide Evangelical Alliance; and John and Carol Arnott of Catch the Fire Toronto, which grew out of a Pentecostal revival 20 years ago.

The pope met with more than 50,000 Catholic charismatics in Rome last month, admitting he was not always comfortable with the way they prayed. Still, he knelt on stage as they prayed for him and spoke in tongues. “Where does division come from? The devil!” Francis told them. “Division comes from the devil. Flee from internal struggles, please!”

Pentecostal and charismatic Christians  – charismatics are often Pentecostals in other churches, including the Catholic Church — share much in common, such as speaking in tongues and healing. Together, they make up at least 584 million people in the world, about 9 percent of the global population and one in four Christians worldwide, according to the Pew Research Center.

And that’s probably partly why Francis extended the invitation to the U.S. pastors. The Rev. Wesley Granberg-Michaelson, a veteran of Catholic-Protestant ecumenical groups and the author of “From Times Square to Timbuktu: The Post-Christian West Meets the Non-Western Church,” said Pentecostalism is growing in the Global South at three times the rate of Catholic growth, especially among the poor.

“My guess is that Francis knows this community can’t be ignored,” Granberg-Michaelson said. “Certainly, Francis would want to encourage Catholic charismatics to feel at home, as well as build ecumenical relationships with the Pentecostal community — and those reinforce one another. That’s also why what he is doing is both ecumenically creative, and makes sense.”

A flawed “theology of suffering.

CATHOLICS ARE NOT TRUE CHRISTIANS AS THEY TEACH LIES. ” In Mother Teresa’s words: “The most beautiful gift for a person is that he can participate in the sufferings of Christ.” Therefore, the Catholic who suffers the most is closest to Christ. When you remove suffering, you remove Christ. Instead of minimizing their suffering, Mother Teresa ensured it. Alleviating suffering, let alone eliminating it, was out of the question. Seen from this perspective, her behavior toward her patients makes sense.

Instead of curing them, Mother Teresa gave the bare minimum of treatment, resulting in suffering for most and death for some. She gave insufficient or outdated medicine, reused old syringes, and gave cold baths to all patients, even those who could find comfort in a warm one. She’d refuse to install elevators for the disabled, even when the city government offered to pay for it. Instead of hiring competent doctors, she’d rely on incompetent volunteers because she believed strongly that ignorance was more valuable than expertise (Livemore 93, 156).

Instead of being true hospitals or hospices, the establishments run by Mother Teresa were more like prisons at best: The patients, if they were well enough to escape, probably would. At worst, they were torture chambers. She’d refuse to give painkillers even to dying patients who were suffering unbearable pain. Instead of using painkillers, she’d comfort patients by saying, “You are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you.” One poor patient replied, “Then tell your Jesus to stop kissing me.”

Holy Hypocrite

What makes all this worse is the fact that Mother Teresa had the resources to make things better. Estimates of donations reach the millions — even billions — of dollars. Unfortunately, we can never be sure. In the same way that Mother Teresa’s atrocities remain a secret, Missionaries of Charity remains the only charitable organization in India that refuses to reveal how much money they have and how they spend it:

Mother Teresa: Blessed Billionaire, Holy Hypocrite

Mother Teresa did believe that the sufferings of her patients was meritorious for their eventual release from Purgatory. Back in 1996 Dave Hunt addressed the fraudulent claims about Mother Teresa. http://www.thebereancall.org/content/october-1996-q-and-a-1

THE THEOLOGY OF SUFFERING AND POVERTY THAT IS EVEN ESPOUSED AND PROPAGATED ALSO BY MANY EVANGELICALS IS FROM HELL

ABPope Francis meets US televangelists, and the first-ever ‘papal high-five’ follows http://www.religionnews.com/2014/07/09/pope-francis-meets-u-s-televangelist-first-ever-papal-high-five-follows

Pope to Copeland: Catholics and Charismatics must spiritually unite  http://goo.gl/wm07he

GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry

THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NATIONAL AWAKENING http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

BI-SEXUAL SCOUNDREL JIM-BAKKER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/211951342

2014 THE YEAR OF ENEMIES IN MEGA CHURCHES  http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-enemies

MEN OF INTEGRITY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-12p

Pastor Ron Carpenter IS OFF THE WALL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xa

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob

JOSEPH PRINCE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wa

Beth Moore – False Teacher http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wj

LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp

GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPShttp://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3 http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/

Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU

Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid

RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970

THE ARROGANT TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp  

Navigating Through The Minefield Of Signs And Wonders http://www.enterhisrest.org/charismata/protect_deception.pdf

IHOP AND MIKE BICKLE  http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-ihop

SUPERNATURAL SID ROTH  http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/sidroth.html

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja

Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9

HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/

An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm

TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu

RICK JOYNER THE FOOL http://apprising.org/2012/06/07/the-colossians-heresy-part-3/

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

FAMILIAR SPIRITS ARE REAL AND DANGEROUS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6x

SELF DELIVERANCE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-11r

STACEY CAMPBELL THE WITCH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VIR82MGqE

WHAT REVIVAL

BKJUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE HEALING AND MIRACLES DOESN’T MEAN IT’S REVIVAL AS CLAIMED BY FOOLS IN THE THIRD WAVE? THAT IS PART OF NORMAL CHRISTIANITY!

These so-called revival meetings in Canada & the USA with outlandish claims of many have been saved, healed and delivered, confirmed by gold dust, gold teeth, jerking, animal noises and movements, and false prophecies have been total failures.  If people need healing then any Person who is Baptized with the Holy Spirit can pray for healing.  Plus we  have the Spiritual  Gifts of healing and miracles.  These people get off the  track when they think that they can do a so-called meetings that do not follow Paul’s instructions about what should happen in meetings (1 Cor. 12 – 14).  When we have a normal Christian Life led by the Holy Spirit, healings and miracles are all a part of what Jesus has planned for us. These Third Wave fools are false brethren and not real Christians!

One of the most common Bible verses used by people who claim we should not be critical or judge other believers is Matthew 7:1:

Do not judge, and you will not be judged ….

The Bible can be made to say pretty much anything someone wants it to say if it is taken out of context, so every Bible verse should be properly read in its context if we are to correctly understand it and “rightly divide the Word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:15). Matthew 7:1 should therefore not be read or used in isolation from the surrounding verses which provide the context. Verses 2-5 clearly show that verse 1 is referring to hypocritical judgment

The lesson is clear: you should not judge others for their sin if you are guilty of the same sin. If Matthew 7:1 means do not judge at all, it would render what Paul wrote in 2 Timothy 3:16, together with much of what Paul wrote in his epistles, totally null and void. Much of what Paul wrote was to correct error that had arisen within the church; and Paul was not shy in naming specific people. The fact is that Paul used Scripture in exactly the way he advised Timothy it should be used. He used it for  doctrine, reproof, correction, for instruction in righteousness . Notice Paul places doctrine first and that  reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness can only come from right doctrine.

I would prefer the Beatitudes  step by step walk with Jesus which allows us to live the Sermon on the Mount.  Many of the Third Wave teaching are ego selfish building or should I say replacements for the New Testament.  False signs wonders & miracles are the result (Matt. 24: 24; Mk. 13: 22).

Anyway the so called Third Wave leaders who are also supposed to be Apostles, Prophets and men of God not only have no integrity but are liars, thieves, manipulators and scoundrels. Their leaders suffer from Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process and they include scoundrels Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts, Stephen Strader, Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, Benny Hinn and Patricia King. And let’s not forget Rick Joyner, Stacey Campbell, Dutch Sheets, and Peter C. Wagner).

GORDON WILLIAMS

http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2014/06/25/todd-bentleys-first-try-to-get-a-reality-show-and-the-angel-that-missed-the-plane/

http://jesuscultureawakening.blogspot.ca/2012/06/god-delivers-another-from-cult-of-jesus.html

SAVED FROM THE DECEPTION OF CHARISMANIA

God saved me, and brought me out of the Signs and Wonders Movement, after being involved in it for nearly twenty-two years; I am now twenty-three years of age and have been saved for about a year and a half. This is my testimony, and in writing this I pray that God would use this to save others out of the movement that I was so heavily involved in, and that above all else, Christ will be magnified and made much of!

I was born and raised in the “Prophetic Movement” (which is now in the process of morphing into the “New Apostolic Reformation”), and I grew up completely oblivious to what Biblical Christianity is meant to look like. Some of the leaders who had an influence on how I perceived what the church is to look like, have included John and Carol Arnott of the “Toronto Blessing”, Rodney Howard Browne of the “Brownsville Revival”, and others such as Kim Clement, Benny Hinn, Chris Harvey, Todd Bentley, Bob Jones, Randy Clark, Patricia King, Georgian Banov, Bobby Conners, Mike Bickle, Lou Engle, and Bill Johnson.

In the fall of 2002 I ended up moving to Redding, California to get “plugged-in” to Bethel Church, which Bill Johnson (a self-proclaimed “apostle”) oversees. It was here where I ended up jumping into and entertaining the supernatural phenomenon, signs and wonders, and mystical experiences (which were falsely attributed to God) in a much greater way then I did when I was a kid growing up. I soon got involved in the youth group, which was heavily influenced by Lou Engle who heads up “The Call” and Mike Bickle who heads up “IHOP” (International House Of Prayer). I later enrolled in Bethel’s School of Supernatural Ministry in 2006, and went through the whole three-year program. I was heavily engaged and supportive of many of the things, which were being taught and practiced. When Todd Bentley and his, “Lakeland Revival” began to take place, I jumped on board with that as well, and became a full supporter and advocate for it. I was gladfully defending it against all the, “Religious Pharisees” (or so I called them at the time). It was also at this time that I noticed the, “Toking the Ghost” movement and became a “Toker” myself, and a full supporter of John Crowder and Ben Dunn.

However, when Todd Bentley’s affair was made public (August ’08), I ended up becoming grieved by what happened and by the poor response that was to follow. Shortly after the crash of the “Lakeland Revival” I received some severe rebukes for being involved with John Crowder’s and Ben Dunn’s “Toking Mania”, and so I withdrew myself from this aspect of the chaos. It was also at this time, while I was in my third year internship with Bethel, that I was starting to notice that things didn’t line up and I began to question the legitimacy of the Prophetic Movement.

First off, before I share my testimony of how God saved me and brought me out of this movement, I want to explain why I believe that Bethel is a cult, and not just on the charismatic fringe. Labeling someone or a group a “cult” is not a thing to take lightly and so I hope to explain why I believe this to be true with the Word of God. The following statements are examples of the beliefs and practices of Bethel, their school of supernatural ministry, and other ministries who they consider to be their friends and partners in revival. I will not be able to share everything that I was involved with, but in sharing some things I hope to bring some awareness to the dangers that this movement possesses, and bring encouragement to those of you who are praying for friends and loved ones who are entangled in this deception.

TO THE GLORIOUS PRAISE OF MAN AND A STRANGE FORM OF SINLESS PERFECTIONISM

Bethel has a really high view of man, and is extremely man centered. My understanding after being involved with Bethel for almost seven years, and after going through three years of their school of ministry is that they teach that man is basically free to choose good or evil, and that man isn’t all that bad. They would teach that man, prior to coming to Christ is a sinner, but even though he is a sinner he isn’t all that wicked. They would teach that if you pay your bills, don’t cheat on your taxes, and love your family that you are a good person. The leadership at Bethel is quick to impress this into the students who go to the School of Supernatural Ministry in the very beginning of their schooling. Kris Vallotton (a self-proclaimed “prophet”), who is Bill Johnson’s right hand man, would be quick to tell the students how amazing they are, and that they are not wretches or all that bad. It is taught that you are a child of God (which is true for those who are saved), so (by their definition) that means you are “royalty”, “amazing”, “kings” and “queens” so how can you be a wretch? Here is a link to a video clip that is on Kris Vallotton’s website, where he talks about the royalty of man, and how amazing you are.

(http://www.kvministries.com/media/index.php?type=5&id=47&foreign_id=47&media_id=41)

But the Scriptures say otherwise concerning the “goodness” of man. The Word of God says that all of man’s righteousness is like a filthy rag useless for anything at all. Isaiah 64:6 “We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.” This is to say that all of our own efforts of “goodness” amount to disgusting garbage in the sight of God. The Apostle Paul wrote concerning men and their sinfulness. Romans 3:10-18 ““None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” “Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive.” “The venom of asps is under their lips.” “Their mouth is full curses and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; in their paths are ruin and misery, and the way of peace they have not known.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.””  Paul further writes Romans 8:7-8, “For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law, indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.”  (More Scriptures concerning man’s total depravity: Gen 6:5, Ps 14:1-3, Ps 51:5, Jer 17:9, Ro 5:10-12, Eph 2:1-3) The Scriptures makes it clear that men are born with a sinful nature, and commit sin by nature and choice. Man is not good for the most part, with some sin, but rather man is totally corrupt and in love with his sin, and does not wish to part from his sin. For  “no one does good, not even one.” men are naturally “hostile to God” and have a “heart of stone”(Ezekiel 36:26), nor do they naturally seek for God. People are not waiting to hear about the wonderful plan that Jesus has for their life, for they hate Him and are not submissive to Him (John 15:18-25). It is not until God does a saving work in the sinner’s life, (Jon 2:9, Jn 1:12-13, Jn 3:3-8, Jn 6:37, Jn 6:44, Jn 10:25-30, Ro 8:28-30, Ro 9, Tit 3:5) that the person is able and willing to seek for, submit to, and treasure God.

It is also taught at Bethel that once you become a Christian you are no longer a sinner. One of their “key verses” for this is taken from Romans 6:11 “So you also must consider yourself dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.” Kris Vallotton would take this and say that since you are “dead to sin” you are no longer a sinner. But the context of “consider yourself dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.” means that we are no longer enslaved to sin, to fulfill its lusts and desires, that it is no longer the thing that drives us, it is not that we are no longer sinners. Now, the leadership at Bethel does not teach that a Christian can’t sin, but rather they teach that if a Christian does sin it does not make him a sinner. In other-words (they would teach), if a Christian does sin it is because they believed a lie that they still struggle with sin. Here is a link to a video clip of Kris Vallotton talking about Christians not being sinners. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvS2kkIoyAs) What does scripture have to say about Christians being sinners? Are Christians still sinners?  If we were to look at 1 John 1:8-10 “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” Scripture tells us we are sinners because, “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.”  If we claim to be sinless we lie and do not have the truth in us, or in other-words if someone was to truly believe that they are sinless then they are not truly saved.

Note on Video: [The fundamental error in Kris’ teaching is that he has missed the overriding context of 1 John. John writes to those who have made a profession of Christ (1 John 5:13) in an effort to assure them of their salvation. John does not write to non-believers as Mr. Vallotton suggests, therefore, he is guilty of allowing his presuppositions concerning sin and salvation to misleadingly guide his interpretation down an avenue that the apostle never imagined.]

SHAKE -N-BAKE WITH A SIDE OF KUNDALINI

Among one of the more common and heavily embraced practices would be that of getting “drunk in the Spirit”. This is where you lay hands on each other, pray for each other, or ask the Lord to get you “hammered”, in which people (including myself) would have experienced spiritual bliss, joy, and ecstasies. People would react differently to these experiences, some would fall down and not be able to stand, others would stumble around as if heavily intoxicated with alcohol, some would shake violently, and others would experience the blissful side of this but not necessarily exert any physical manifestations. Although, I do not doubt that their are those who would “fake” being drunk (I did this at times), this does not exclude the reality that people regularly experience spiritual highs when practicing this. One of the main “proof” texts for this is taken from Acts 2:1-15. “But others mocking said, “they are filled with new wine.””(vs. 13) and “These people are not drunk as you suppose”(vs. 15a) The defense for “getting drunk in the spirit” is that they were “drunk”, so they were drunk in the Holy Spirit (aka: falling down, laughing, twitching, and shaking), because people thought that they were drunk, and that is how drunk people act. But if we were to look at the text a little bit closer we would see clearly why they thought that they were drunk. We read in verses 1 -13, “When the day of Pentecost arrived, they were all together in one place. And suddenly there came from heaven a sound like a mighty rushing wind, and it filled the entire house where they were sitting. And divided tongues as of fire appeared to them and rested on each one of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. Now there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men from every nation under heaven. And at this sound the multitude came together, and they were bewildered, because each one was hearing him speak in his own language. And they were amazed and astonished, saying, “Are these who are speaking Galileans? And how is it that we hear, each of us in his own native language? Parthians and Medes and Elamites and residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya belonging to Cyrene, and visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, Cretans and Arabians – we hear them telling in our own tongues the mighty works of God.” And all were amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “what does this mean?” But others mocking said, “They are filled with new wine.”” There were those who thought that the disciples were drunk because they were speaking in tongues (foreign languages and dialects unknown to the speakers) “Telling the mighty works of God.” It was because of this that people thought that they were drunk. There is nothing about shaking and baking in the text at all!

These drunken manifestations that are experienced within the Prophetic Movement are identical to that of Kundalini. Kundalini is a practice found in New Age groups as well as eastern mysticism. These practices would include physical manifestations, such as jerking and shaking, and feelings of heat, energy, and pleasure. There is absolutely nothing in the Scriptures that even come close to supporting this practice at all! With this it is safe to say that getting drunk in the spirit is a counterfeit experience. Here is a link to a good video clip that Andrew Strom did on the Kundalini, and the manifestations of “drunkenness” found within the Prophetic Movement.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpw2oQrvMM). The Scriptures warn us that people will turn away from the Truth and follow what is false: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 “For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teachings, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”

WHEN SOLA SCRIPTURA IS NOT ENOUGH

Another common practice is for people to hear the Lord “speak to them prophetically”. In this movement and at Bethel in particular it is taught that the Lord is always and continually speaking to you (apart from the Scriptures), and all you have to do is “tune” in to the right station (like an FM/AM radio) to be able to hear from the Lord. Some of the different ways that they teach that you can hear from the Lord would include: audibly, open visions, angels, the inner-audible-voice (where you hear the Lord speak audibly inside of you, rather than on the outside), the still small voice (like that of a faint whisper), feelings (where you “feel” what the Lord is saying to you), and dreams. (however, compare that with Hebrews 1:1-2) They would say that all prophecy is for edification, exhortation, and comfort and that when you give someone a prophecy, you are doing so to encourage them and to help build them up. For Example: you would receive a prophetic “download” about someone and prophecy over them by telling them something that may sound like this, “The Lord really likes how you like numbers, so I feel like you have a grace on your life to be an accountant.”  This is something that if you were to ask the leadership at Bethel about, or anyone who has been apart of Bethel for any length of time, that they would testify too.

This “continual speaking” also embarks into the arena of authoritative new revelations, or extra Biblical revelations. It is believed and taught at Bethel that the Lord is revealing new truths apart from what has already been revealed to us in the Scriptures. Bill Johnson has said, “The Lord wants to give revelation at a measure that has never, I don’t think has ever happened in the world before. The spirit of revelation is being released upon the church, but I’ll, let me tell you one of the things that makes room for the spirit of revelation to come, it’s the fact that we are willing to embrace mystery.” Here is a link to a video clip where you will hear Bill say this, and as well hear him expand on it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pfa_kj1NUk). For an actual example of extra Biblical revelation: Bethel recently had Cindy Jacobs (who is a self-proclaimed “prophetess”) come to Bethel on 09-01-10, which she gave a “prophetic word” over Bethel, about Bethel building buildings, being an apostolic center, and taking the media mountain (the “mountain” concept will be explained in the section “At The Root Of It All”). Here is a portion of Cindy Jacob’s  “prophecy” over Bethel.“The apostolic team here will have to pray over this and unpack it and see what it will look like. There might be other buildings in-between and other ways. In order to do what you’re going to do, you are going to need a lot of buildings. Because the Lord says, “I am getting ready to build this apostolic network and many people are going to come and say, “I need to join.” And I am going to show you how to do this organically but yet put structure to it.” The Lord says, “do not fear to step out and do that. My people need a home and a place. I have put a heart in many that have the DNA of revival and healing and revivalists and miracles…. where will they find a resting place? There is a desire to find a resting place.” You can read the full transcript of this “prophecy” at this link

(http://www.ibethel.org/site/articles/2010/08/09/prophetic-word-for-bethel-church).

While I was involved in the Prophetic Movement it was my experience that many people (yet not all) didn’t bother to read their Bibles on a regular basis, which was also the case for me. From what I observed I believe this was the case because it is believed that we need fresh words from the Lord, and the Written Word of God is not enough, and it is believed that you can’t walk in the fullness of your relationship with the Lord using the Scriptures alone.

The Scriptures do teach us that the Word of God is sufficient, 2 Timothy shows us of the sufficiency of Scriptures, that the Scriptures are enough, we do not need new revelation. 2 Timothy 3:16-17, “All scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.” The Scriptures are enough that one may be “competent, equipped for every good work.”

2 Timothy 4:2-4 “Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teachings, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”

    2 Peter 1:16-21 “For we did not follow cleverly devised myths when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For when he received honor and glory from God the Father, and the voice was borne to him by the Majestic Glory, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased,” we ourselves heard this very voice borne from heaven, for we were with him on the holy mountain. . [Peter is referring to his experience on the Mt. of Transfiguration (with James and John) when Jesus was transfigured and Moses and Elijah appeared] And we have something more sure, the prophetic word, [The exact meaning of “prophetic word” is described in verse 20 as “Prophecy of Scripture”.] to which you will do well to pay attention as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts, knowing first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.” What the Apostle Peter is saying is that they have received something even “more sure” than the audible voice of God, transfiguration of Jesus, and appearance of Moses and Elijah… The Word of God! Scripture is enough and there is no need for new revelations whatsoever!

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My night at the Randy Clark Healing and Impartation Conference with Bill Johnson

January 20, 2012 at 10:21pm

So last night, myself and 2 friends went to a Bethel event at our local Civic Center here in Redding, Ca. It was called the “Randy Clark School of Healing and Impartation”, or something like that. First off, when we got there, we walked around and checked out the books and what-not, we walked around and just checked things out. I must say, the people are very very nice, I don’t doubt their sincerity. A couple of the songs were focused on getting the “Spirit in you” and then they actually sang an older Newsboys song, which I knew!

Then, once the music stopped, it all started to go downhill from there. Bill came out and told people about how he thought if we gave money now, that when we get to heaven, we’d get to hear about how our sacrifice helped somebody while we were on earth. It was very very man-centered and he missed the point of giving by a mile.

Next Randy Clark came out and well, basically told a bunch of stories. Words cannot describe what it was that he said because it was all a bunch of nonsense. I did manage to record some of it on my phone, but I haven’t uploaded it yet.

One of the things we bought, for research, was a 2 sided paper that had instructions on how to approach somebody for healing, word of knowledge, etc. It is, by far, the worst theological train-wreck I’ve ever seen. I’ve been making the case that they are enemies of the True Gospel and that they believe experience trumps the Word of God, well, this card backs all that up. They actually tell you to NOT PREACH to people when trying to heal them. It was atrocious. I may try to scan it somehow, but now sure how to do that exactly.

In a nutshell, from what I heard, it was sad. Continual new “revelation”, which trumped Scripture and was extremely man centered. I’m more and more convinced that those involved in this movement are borderline cultic. Again, nice, sincere people, but I believe that they are mostly believing a “different gospel” and it’s one that will send people straight to hell. I did come away a little discouraged as I did try to get the Gospel out of one gal and she really didn’t know much about it other than the healing part.  When we add something to the finished work of the Gospel ie: health wealth etc, then we are believing a different gospel as warned about in Galatians 1. My prayer is that the Holy Spirit will convict the leaders of this false movement such as Bill, Randy Clark and Kris Vallotton etc. of their false teachings and they will be saved.

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POOR BLIND AND NAKED

ACJESUS TOLD BLIND IGNORANT DEMONIZED CHRISTIANS THAT THEY WERE WRETCHED, MISERABLE, POOR, BLIND AND NAKED AND NEEDED TO BE ZEALOUS AND REPENT

REVELATIONS 3:14    “And to the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write, ‘These things says the Amen, the Faithful and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of God:
15    “I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you were cold or hot.
16    So then, because you are lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out of My mouth.
17    Because you say, ‘I am rich, have become wealthy, and have need of nothing’ — and do not know that you are wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked —
18    I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see.
19    As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.
20    Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and dine with him, and he with Me.
21    To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
22    “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” ‘ ”

AND WHAT HAS CHANGED TODAY AMONGST SO CALLED CHRISTIANS? NOTHING MUCH!

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Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

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Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

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Navigating Through The Minefield Of Signs And Wonders

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Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

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THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND FULL GOSPEL

AETHE GARDEN OF EDEN AND FULL GOSPEL

Acts 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.

1 John 3:8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.

3 John 1:2 Beloved, I pray that you may prosper in all things and be in health, just as your soul prospers.

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. John 10:10

God didn’t create the Wilderness of Eden but the Garden of Eden? And when God first created the Garden of Eden and put man there, there was no poverty or sickness there at all. It was a beautiful lush rich place abounding with every good thing.  It was a fertile, well-cultivated region, not a desert or wasteland? Contrary to what many religious leaders teach and preach there is no value in poverty or in the fear of being rich. God, who supplied miraculously Adam’s every need in the Garden of Eden and has freely given us all things, delights in the prosperity of His servants. It’s the jealous devil who is against God’s people having money and being prosperous.  It is also true when people are poor God is robbed of pleasure and when people do not have enough to give, God is denied pleasure. God’s word is true:

Let them be ashamed and brought to mutual confusion Who rejoice at my hurt; Let them be clothed with shame and dishonor  Who exalt themselves against me.  Let them shout for joy and be glad,  Who favor my righteous cause;  And let them say continually, “Let the LORD be magnified,  Who has pleasure in the prosperity of His servant.” Psalm 35:26-27

Indeed I have all and abound. I am full, having received from Epaphroditus the things sent from you, a sweet-smelling aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God. Philippians 4:18

So let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver.  2 Corinthians 9:7

There are those religious fools who believe that poverty and sickness are the will of God and use Apostle Paul as an example to prove their case! But they never ask for God to give them more of poverty and sickness and they use the services of a doctor to try and get delivered or ask strangers for money to support them in their so called work of the Lord!  If God’s will wasn’t prosperity for man He would not have created the Garden of Eden and put man in charge there. He would have created a barren wasteland and wilderness and put man to suffer there?  But God cannot stand wastelands and wilderness and He gets glory by changing them into fruitful fields and forests. God’s word is unchanging:

The wilderness and the wasteland shall be glad for them, And the desert shall rejoice and blossom as the rose;  It shall blossom abundantly and rejoice, Even with joy and singing. The glory of Lebanon shall be given to it,  The excellence of Carmel and Sharon.  They shall see the glory of the LORD,  The excellency of our God. Isaiah 35:1-2

But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed. Isaiah 53:5

For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that you through His poverty might become rich. 2 Corinthians 8:9

Prosperity and Healing is God’s will for man and it’s a good transition from a negative circumstance to a positive one, especially because of Jesus being wounded for our transgression and being bruised for our iniquities. As a result the chastisement for our peace was upon Him, and by His stripes we are healed. The word “peace” in the Bible includes the idea of our well-being in every area of life not just our bodies.  Jesus became poor, not to set an example — but that we might become rich! The price has been paid for our prosperity for poverty is a curse, not a blessing, and God’s word is unchanging:

“But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:  “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.  “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.  “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.  “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.   “The LORD will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me. Deuteronomy 28:15-20

Yes true Christians believe in prosperity and the wholeness of man because that was the original state of man in the Garden of Eden until sin and Satan entered the picture. They don’t believe in poverty and sickness because Jesus never preached or demonstrated that it was the will of God.

God has no problem healing us, but we have a problem believing it. There is no lack with God, but we experience lack because of unbelief. There is actually more than you can handle with God, cup running over, get extra jars and pots and pour out the oil until all are full, water pots filled with the best wine, so many fish the nets began to break, they took up twelve baskets full of bread and fish fragments after all 5000 ate, there is more than enough, much more than enough. What causes lack? Unbelief. Unbelief also causes you not to enter God’s rest. Why don’t you just rest and believe God today? Remove the cork. Believe!

Many times Christians struggle to manifest prosperity according to the world’s standards. However, prosperity according to God’s Word extends beyond any prosperity we can ever find in the world. Prosperity from God makes us whole in every area of life. It is a prosperity that goes beyond a dollar amount. True prosperity is Christ-centered, and it comes from a complete dependence upon Jesus Christ.

Society’s definition of prosperity is limited to finances; however, God’s definition of prosperity means wholeness.

To prosper spiritually you must be a born-again Christian.

To prosper physically means you are healed and healthy in your body.

We prosper as our soul prospers (3 John 1:2-4, AMP).

To prosper within the soul begins with the process of transforming your mind with God’s Word.

The soul of man consists of the mind, will (decision making), and emotions.

The enemy attacks our thinking. Wrong thinking prevents our prosperity.

Now Jesus Christ operated in all the gifts of the  Spirit and because Christ lives in every true Spirit filled believer they can also do the same!  God’s word is unchanging.

Acts 6

5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas, a proselyte from Antioch, …8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.

Acts 8:5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria and preached Christ to them. 6 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.7 For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed. 8 And there was great joy in that city.

2 Corinthians 12:12 Truly the signs of an apostle were accomplished among you with all perseverance, in signs and wonders and mighty deeds.

It’s to be noted that Stephen and Phillip were not apostles but layman who were full of faith, power and the Holy Spirit and did great wonders and signs among the people! Ahd the gifts of thee Spirit were given to the church of Jesus Christ as long as it exists on earth:

1 Corinthians 12:28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

The basis of Full Gospel of Jesus Christ is that Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever, He is in the now by the power of the Holy Spirit. And God confirms the preaching of His word with miracles, signs and wonders following!

Faith is the currency of the kingdom of God used by God’s believing people   to obtain whatever  we need including salvation, healing, deliverance miracles and financial blessings.

Evangelicals of all persuasions including Pentecostals rob people of great blessings when they deny and don’t preach on the importance of faith  while the word of God tells us how important it truly is:

HEBREWS 11:30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell down after they were encircled for seven days. 31 By faith the harlot Rahab did not perish with those who did not believe, when she had received the spies with peace. 32    And what more shall I say? For the time would fail me to tell of Gideon and Barak and Samson and Jephthah, also of David and Samuel and the prophets: 33    who through faith subdued kingdoms, worked righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34    quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, became valiant in battle, turned to flight the armies of the aliens.

True believers in Christ, Christians, walk in Holy Ghost power that gives proof of the resurrection. This is way more than quoting a bible scripture, teaching a nice Sunday school class or sharing with a friend at the coffee shop. Jesus said, “He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do because I go unto my Father” (John 14:12).

Before a person can receive the benefits of salvation they need to know what belongs to them. This is confirmed in the scripture, “Faith cometh for by hearing and hearing by the Word of God” (Romans 10:17). Once you know what belongs to you then all you need to do is receive it. That goes as much for deliverance from unclean spirits as it does for physical healing. The Apostle Paul wrote that he prayed for believers to come to the place where they knew what belonged to them in Christ. Today we could call those the benefits of salvation. He wrote,

“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints, And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church.” (Ephesians 1:17-22)

Apostle Paul’s ministry wasn’t to entertain the believers!

1 COR. 2:4-5 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.

Paul preached in the power of the fullness of god’s blessings and not just words

ROMANS 15:17    Therefore I have reason to glory in Christ Jesus in the things which pertain to God. 18    For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ has not accomplished through me, in word and deed, to make the Gentiles obedient — 19    in mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God, so that from Jerusalem and round about to Illyricum I have fully preached the gospel of Christ.

…29    But I know that when I come to you, I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.

Preaching a half truth is to preach a lie. It is sin and demonic not to preach the whole gospel that Jesus Christ is not only Lord, but savior, healer, provider, deliverer, miracle worker and Baptizer in the Holy Spirit who confirms the preaching by His true ones with miracles signs and wonders following like Philip had. And to have a form of godliness while denying its power is sin and rebellion!

Yes Jesus was a Pentecostal so why would that make some Christians upset?  Jesus, was filled with the holy spirit, led by the holy spirit, operated in the gifts of the holy spirit to heal the sick, cast out demons and raise the dead? Also, the disciples were same as they followed all that Jesus taught them. So why would that make them angry unless it’s the devil doing it because they need deliverance for not doing the same?

Why do evangelicals ignore the words of Jesus that  the baptism of the spirit gives true Christians power which carnal anemic impotent Christians don’t have:

ACTS 1:4    And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; 5    for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” 6    Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7    And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8    But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”

Many so called bible believing Christians are real  nuts who worship the bible above Jesus Christ whom they don’t obey. They offer a wimpy anemic counterfeit Jesus who loves everybody and wants everybody in heaven and ignore the fact that Jesus Christ who is the same yesterday, today and forever is a man of war who kills His enemies! They have a form of godliness and deny its power. They are devoid of truth, miracle, signs and wonders contrary to the commands of Jesus (Mark 16:14-20). They are devoid of wisdom and discernment as defined by Isaiah 11:1-6 and 1 Corinthians 2:1-16. They hate the gifts of the Spirit and don’t practice them (1 Corinthians 12-14)

All they ever do is talk and talk and talk and judge others as not being Christians! They throw true Christians out of their anemic impotent useless churches! They preach that suffering and poverty is the will of God and miracles have ceased but when they are sick they run to a doctor instead of accepting sickness as the will of God. They think they are on the way to heaven when in reality they are on the way to hell as they are the foolish virgins (Matthew 25:1-12). They are nothing but a cult!

Paul mentioned such people who refused the Baptism of the Holy Spirit in 1 Cor. 14: 23 – 24. The Greek word that he uses to describe them is “idiotai” (plural), “idiotes” (singular) which means they are spiritual “idiots” but usually translated as “ungifted” of “unskilled” or laymen, amateurs, unskilled  people.  They do not want the Holy Spirit nor do they want the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.  But they want to be involved in churches and prevent the real work of God which requires the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  They are people who want what God has without coming under His Lordship which requires the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the “Signs” of the Holy Spirit.  They are like the Pharisees of whom Jesus said, “for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God” (Jn. 12: 3). Samuel told Saul, “Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness as iniquity and idolatry.  Because you have rejected the word of the LORD (Yahweh), he has also rejected you from being king” (1 Sam. 15: 23).  This aplies today who do not want to do what Jesus requires of them.

They think that because they have prayed the “sinner’s prayer” that they can ignore what the Scriptures require and not lose their Salvation.  That’s the reason why Jesus warn us in Revelation 3: 5 that when somebody turns away from Him, they can have their names blotted out (removed) from the Book of Life.  Also: Heb. 6: 1 – 8; 2 Pet. 2: 20 – 22; Proverbs 26: 11.  Jesus aptly warns us, “Beware of false prophets  which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.  You will know them by their fruits.  Do men gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles” (Matt. 7: 15: 16).

Dispensationalism is the product of people who want to re-organize the Kingdom of Heaven according to their warped thinking. These people don’t like God’s Biblical Church Organization and they have re-organized it in such a way to eliminate His Grace by replacing it with their own ideas.  They have a real problem with God’s Covenant Relationship.  So, they have a lot of problems relating to the New Testament and try to explain the Bible in their unbiblical ways.

I dislike powerless evangelicals and fundamentalists who put great emphasis on doctrines and ignore the gifts of the Spirit. They talk much but don’t cast out devils instead cast out people from their churches. They don’t heal the sick but instead make people sick with their doctrines of demons. The bible says of them:

2 Timothy 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

Sin is not the problem. The problem is that these people have not asked, believed or received God’s full gospel of Christ. They are trying to do it on their own in their own human frailty. Jesus, said “it is finished”. Yes, Jesus already paid in full everything on our behalf.

Whenever a church or denomination loses its power  and effectiveness because it stopped being full of faith, wisdom, holy spirit and power , it starts to trust in the wisdom of men including Pauline doctrines conjured out of Paul’s epistles! Doctrines such as unlimited grace, once saved, always saved, predestination, women cannot preach, pastors are to rule churches, love is the greatest, miracles have ceased, etc.

The word of God tells us that apostle Paul never intended that his writings be a substitute for having our faith in the power of God but in the wisdom of men.

Too many people have tried to be “Christians” on their own strength and without the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.

However fleshly carnal ones love things they can control including doctrine and understanding of scriptures since they cannot control the Holy Spirit and His gifts including miracles.

As a result the fleshly ones  who are devoid of power and truth hate  Jesus commands and statements in  Mark 16:14 Later He appeared to the eleven as they sat at the table; and He rebuked their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they did not believe those who had seen Him after He had risen.15    And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16    He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.17    And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18    they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” 19    So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.20    And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

The reason why so many people do not want to receive the Holy Spirit and accept the work of the Holy Spirit through speaking in the new real languages that Jesus wants us to have is that they only want Jesus to be their Saviour and not their Lord (Matt. 7: 21 – 23).  They are in rebellion against Jesus being Lord and God.  They are the ones of whom Jesus referred when He said, “And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; if he does, the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled, and the skins will be destroyed.  But new wine is must be put into new wineskins.  And no one after drinking new wine  desires new; for he says, “The old is better” (Lk. 5: 37 – 39).  That’s the reason why they love the OT.  They do not like the taste of the New Wine Who is the Holy Spirit.  They do not like God’s grace because it causes people, like them, to react like the workers in the Parable of the Householder or the workers hired at different times of the day and were all paid the same wage at the end of the day.  Those who worked for the full day complained that they all received the same pay (salvation).  The owner said, “Or do you begrudge my generosity?” (Matt. 20: 15).  The Greek reads, “Is your eye evil because I am good?”  These people who resist the work of the Holy Spirit want to be their own selfish selves guided by their own sinful understanding of the work of Jesus Christ or worse the devil and/demons.

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ALL OUR NEEDS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1zY

JESUS CHRIST THE SAME  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xf

It is a function of “agape love” to correct people and to call them to repentance.   Ignorant protestors, who don’t believe in public or private correction and say it’s a hateful thing to do, need to read one of Paul’s letters to Timothy.  It reads, “All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God  may be complete, equipped for every good work” (2 Tim. 3: 16 – 17).  Anybody who is beyond correction places themselves outside of God will.  And note it is “all Scripture” not some or whatever we don’t like.  Blind protestors are a spiritual danger to themselves and other people.

The demonized evangelicals in my part of the woods who don’t operate in the gifts of the spirit always talked about the importance of forgiving others as though it was the only thing in the bible. But some people you don’t forgive just like Jesus never forgave Judas. You don’t forgive unrepented rapists, liars, thieves, deceivers, pedophiles, lesbians  and scoundrels!

They should read their bible which clearly talks about pedophiles and says in Luke 17 about the woe that will come to them:
1    Then He said to the disciples, “It is impossible that no offenses should come, but woe to him through whom they do come! 2  It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. 3    Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him.

It is not true that as some Third Wave fools claim that” health and wealth ends with man, and signs and wonders with Jesus.”  Yes I have seen more extremes and fruit loops in the signs and wonders camp than anywhere else. Chasing non biblical signs and wonders that have nothing to do with Jesus. I hear more of Jesus being preached and sound biblical teaching from Word of Faith then the others. When gold dust, gold teeth and so called angel feathers are chased (and I have seen people crawling around on the floor looking for gold dust, gems etc.) over an encounter with the Lord something is wrong. There is more preaching about the fluff and stuff then Jesus! Time and time again people have been caught planting such foolishness. So this camp is no better where exalting Jesus is concerned then those that do pollute the prosperity message. I am all about the glory of God and His presence, but a lot of the foolishness going on with the signs and wonders camp are no better than the extremes of some in Word of Faith. The Bible tells us what signs believers are to expect and they are to follow us, not us chase after them!

When I lived in Florida from 1994 I personally experienced the lying signs and wonders and the false counterfeit Christ preached by fools such as Rodney Howard Browne, Pastor Karl Strader. Pastor Stephen Strader, Pastor Ron Clark, and Bishop Randy White.  I went to many of their meetings and found these pastors to be egotistic Third Wave fools. I especially dislike Rodney Howard Browne and his brothers. Rodney tried to raise his daughter from the dead and failed and I never saw him operate in the gifts of the spirit. He was a deceiving coward who taught pastors that the sheep existed to be fleeced and was robbed by Pastor Karl Strader of thousands of dollars during the revival meetings held in Lakeland. So he blessed Karl for it and bought him a new Lincoln town car not with his own money but with the money of the dumb sheep. he and his brothers are stupid false Pentecostal nuts

Rodney never earned his doctorate degree as it is an honorary one – he is nothing but a “loud mouth” who has told others that “Walter hates pastors” while the truth is “Walter hates false egotistic deceiving pastors” who also do not demonstrate a deliverance ministry but a thieving ministry.

I have debated with Rodney a few times and tell everybody he is a stupid idiot who could not discern that his friend Karl Strader and the Straders were liars deceivers and thieves.

DAN STRADER IS NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

Rodney the Fleecer http://tinyurl.com/343w372

A secondary Lakeland Revival with thieving and lying Todd Bentley and Stephen Strader was also a joke. Think about it what can lying thieving deceiving adulterous Todd Bentley the sorcerer offer a troubled world that has its own problems? Nothing! Because they have no integrity.

Richard Lambert says:  April 14, 2014 at 7:22 am

Adultery is adultery, in this case it is an ongoing sin, it is not past and forgiven, Todd and his first wife were both Christians and by leaving his first wife and marrying a new wife Todd has and still is committing adultery, and he causes his new wife to be in sin as well. God forgives, heals and restores, a real testimony of God doing anything in Todd’s life would involve him being convicted of sin, turning to God in repentance and be healed and restored. Even his first marriage can be restored in God. The wages of sin is death, a man who sins sexually sins against his own body. Todd was a great one for preaching and administering healing, yet he fails to note that God’s law and his word has inbuilt power to bring peace and healing. A life lived right in Christ will bear much fruit, the fruits are those of the Spirit; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, self-control. It sounds like the fruits of Todd’s life are exactly the opposite of these fruits of the spirit. Shortly before Lakeland in 2008 I received a prophetic word that Todd Bentley was not sent by the Lord, I shared this with my Christian family (parents and brothers) who happened to be in the USA at the time, it transpired that they were travelling to the Lakeland ‘revival’ at the very time they received the word the Lord had given me. Sadly they did not receive the word and said I was wrong and was not hearing God, they said ‘we will see in the future the fruits and who is right, and whoever is wrong can apologies to the other’ Now nearly six years later there has been no apology, no restoration my relationship with my family was ruined and is yet to be restored. I believe that Todd Bentley and his fake revival caused such division amongst believers that the true extent of damage caused is immeasurable, certainly far outweighing any claimed good that was ever achieved.

These so called revival meetings have caused many people to become sick rather than finding healing. Their reports tell us of false prophecies, of gold teeth which when examined by dentists are just discolored yellow caused by sulphur in the air, gold dust that disappears, and cheap imitation so-called jewels which are poor imitations but are copies of the them similar to what I bought in a children’s store. The jeweler told them that they were “valueless” which they mistook for being “invaluable”. In other words, they were “of no value or use; worthless”. The medical examinations of people who thought they had been healed were disappointing because, like Todd thought, participation in such meetings would result in healing and good health as we see happening in real full gospel meetings. He has been deluded in these meetings and misled by false prophecies, false everything. We have had to set more people free from these false blessing possessions!

In all of Todd’s so-called meetings, he has grieved (Eph. 4: 30), quenched (1 Thess. 5: 19), outraged the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Grace (Heb. 10: 29) and blasphemed (Mk. 3: 28 – 30). He has lived and publicly displayed the “works of the flesh” (Gal. 5: 19 – 21). He turned worship into a self-centered X-rated entertainment (1 Cor. 14: 26f.). He has danced with the devil/Satan as if he, the devil, was God. The result is that he has been living under the wrath of God (Rom. 1:18, 2: 8) mistaking it for the blessing of God. He has gone beyond what is written (1 Cor. 4: 6) and has gone beyond what is written and has become “puffed up in favor of one against another. He has become what Jesus said to the Sadducees, “You are wrong because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29).

Check out

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9

HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/

An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm

TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu

RICK JOYNER THE FOOL http://apprising.org/2012/06/07/the-colossians-heresy-part-3/

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Bentley: Lakeland Liar interviewed on ABC Night line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMAVPXPx6H8

Yes the so called Third Wave leaders who are also supposed to be Apostles, Prophets and men of God not only have no integrity but are liars, thieves, manipulators and scoundrels. Their leaders suffer from Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)   in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process and they include scoundrels Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts, Stephen Strader, Todd Bentley,  Benny Hinn and Patricia King. And let’s not forget Rick Joyner, Stacey Campbell, Dutch Sheets, and Peter C. Wagner).

Whenever these false apostles or pastors appoint themselves to whatever imagined leadership, they place themselves above God and cannot afford to tolerate any questions.  Our God does not appoint dictators but “servants of all” (Mk. 9: 35).

They are also cowards who character assassinate and lie about their critics just like Pastor Stephen Strader of Ignited Church, Lakeland Florida did a while about Walter Kambulow who is not afraid of exposing them and letting everybody see what they really are.

Stephen R Strader “Walter Dear is a cowardly snake — please report him then block him! He is a pervert who has been stalking me since1996. Canadian authorities are looking for him even now. Thank you!”

But that is to be expected from the criminal Strader family where Dan Strader with the help of his father Pastor Karl Strader through a “Ponzi scheme” robbed a church member and friend of the family Roy Aldrich of $ 100,000 as well as many other elderly members of the church and community. (NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

Dan Strader until this day has refused to admit that he was guilty and as a result Judge Doyle sentenced him to 45 years in jail. Till this day the Criminal Strader family, including Pastor Stephen Strader, have maintained that Dan was innocent and Roy Aldrich was the criminal!

Roy Aldrich contacted me when I was living in Tampa to tell me the whole story and he died prematurely of a stroke a few months later because the Pastor Karl Strader fired his wife Patricia from being a teacher at the church school and they lost their medical coverage. He was murdered by his beloved pastor Karl and the Strader family! And all these deceived demonized ones who are liars, cowards and monsters tell us they have the answer to all of life’s problem? Give me break! We are not as stupid or deceived as they are

AND PASTOR KARL STRADER IS HISTORY http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry

THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NATIONAL AWAKENING http://www.scribd.com/doc/226939087

BELIEVE ON JESUS

What God has made clean, don’t call unclean. If you cannot believe for miracles, you have joined the wrong religion. Everything about the life of Jesus is a miracle. How do you find yourself in a pew with no miracles, no faith, and no joy? How do you call that “worshipping God”? You have to believe to receive. This is not make believe. This is not clappy hands and smiles. This is God, trying desperately to save you in spite of yourself. But if you are offended by the Holy Spirit of God, If you call it demonic. If you call good evil and evil good. Then guess what? The Lord has a controversy with you, because there is innocent blood on your hands. Not just your own blood but the blood of all those you prevented from entering in. If you must be a blind guide, hurry up and fall in the ditch where you belong. But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

Yes, there are phony signs and wonders from false prophets, but when does that EVER negate the true reality of God All-mighty making a way where there is no way in the midst of your calamity? God is a way maker, a dream maker. Eye has not seen, ear has not heard, and it has not entered into your little blessed heart, all the things God has for you. Blessings and miracles a plenty. But won’t it be sad to get to heaven and see all the things the Lord had for you that you never received, because you would not believe. The blame is on you, not on God. He gave His only son, Jesus. He became poor that you might become rich. He died for your salvation. He took the stripes for your healing. Stop asking Jesus to do more for you than He has already done. Rather, GET UP! Pick up your sleeping pad and go home. Stop being a LAME person hanging around the church waiting for a miracle. Jesus is the miracle. Believe on Him and be saved. Believe on Jesus and be delivered. Believe on Jesus and be made every whit whole. Stop waiting on God, God is waiting on you…to believe HIM!!!! Step into it! Get up in Jesus name

THE THIRD WAVE FLUFF AND STUFF

Just because some have perverted prosperity I am not going to lump them all together and throw it out. The Bible does teach that God wants to prosper us and healing is available to us that believe. You have extremes in all doctrine and in every camp/denomination etc. That is not true that health and wealth ends with man, and signs and wonders with Jesus. I have seen more extremes and fruit loops in the signs and wonders camp than anywhere else. Chasing non biblical signs and wonders that have nothing to do with Jesus. I hear more of Jesus being preached and sound biblical teaching from Word of Faith then the others. When gold dust, gold teeth and so called angel feathers are chased (and I have seen people crawling around on the floor looking for gold dust, gems etc) over an encounter with the Lord something is wrong. There is more preaching about the fluff and stuff then Jesus! Time and time again people have been caught planting such foolishness. So this camp is no better where exalting Jesus is concerned then those that do pollute the prosperity message. I am all about the glory of God and His presence, but a lot of the foolishness going on with the signs and wonders camp are no better than the extremes of some in Word of Faith. The Bible tells us what signs believers are to expect and they are to follow us, not us chase after them!

 

OFF THE WALL

money in the hand of businessman6 Really Bad Charismatic Doctrines We Should Retire                       

10:00AM EDT 5/7/2014    J. Lee Grady                                

I will never apologize for being a charismatic Christian. I had a dramatic experience with the Holy Spirit many years ago, and nobody can talk me out of it. I love the Holy Spirit’s abiding presence in my life and His supernatural gifts. I love to prophesy, speak in tongues, pray for the sick and see people changed by the Spirit’s power.

At the same time, I’m aware that since the charismatic movement began in the 1960s, people have misused the gifts of the Spirit and twisted God’s Word to promote strange doctrines or practices. Seeing these errors never caused me to question the authenticity of what the Holy Spirit had done in my life. But I knew I had to stay true to God’s Word and reject any false teachings I encountered.

My simple rule is based on 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22: “But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil” (NASB). In other words: Eat the meat and spit out the bones.

As I have traveled throughout the body of Christ in recent years, I’ve experienced the good, the bad and the ugly. I love God’s people, and I know there is a healthy remnant of Spirit-filled churches that are striving to stay grounded in biblical truth. But I also know we have reached a crossroads. We must clean up our act. We must jettison any weird doctrines we might have believed or practiced that are hindering our growth today.

Here are a few of the worst errors that have circulated in our movement in the past season. You may have others that need to be added to this list. I believe we are grieving the Holy Spirit if we continue to practice these things:

1. “Touch not My anointed.” Chances are you’ve heard this weird doctrine based on 1 Chronicles 16:22. In an attempt to discourage any form of disagreement in the church, insecure leaders tell their members that if they ever question church authority, they are “touching the Lord’s anointed” and in danger of God’s judgment. Let’s call this what it is: spiritual manipulation. It creates worse problems by ruling out healthy discussion and mutual respect. Church members end up being abused or controlled—or even blacklisted because they dare to ask a question.

2. Dual covenant. We charismatics love and respect Israel. Some of us even incorporate Jewish practices in our worship—such as wearing prayer shawls, blowing shofars or celebrating Hebraic feasts. These things can enrich our Christian experience—but some leaders go too far when they begin to teach that Jews don’t need to believe in Jesus Christ to experience salvation. They imply that Jews have special access into heaven simply because of their ethnic heritage. This is a flagrant contradiction of everything the New Testament teaches.

3. Inaccessible leadership. In the 1980s, some charismatic ministries began to teach pastors and traveling ministers that in order to “protect the anointing,” they must stay aloof from people. Ministers were warned to never make friends in their congregations. Preachers began the strange practice of skipping worship on Sunday mornings—and then appearing on the stage only when it was time for the sermon in order to make a dramatic entrance. Shame on these people for attempting to justify arrogance. Jesus loved people, and He made Himself available to them. So should we.

4. Armor-bearers. The same guys who developed item No. 3 started this strange fad. Preachers began the practice of surrounding themselves with an entourage: one person to carry the briefcase, another person to carry the Bible, another to carry the handkerchief. Some preachers hired bodyguards … and even food-tasters! The armor-bearers were promised special blessings if they served preachers who acted like slave-owners. Reminder: True leaders are servants, not egomaniacs.

5. The hundredfold return. Before his death in 2003, Kenneth Hagin Sr., the father of the faith movement, rebuked his own followers for taking prosperity teaching to a silly extreme. In his book The Midas Touch, he begged preachers to stop misusing Mark 10:28-30 to suggest that God promises a hundredfold return on every offering we give. Hagin wrote, “If the hundredfold return worked literally and mathematically for everyone who gave in an offering, we would have Christians walking around with not billions or trillions of dollars, but quadrillions of dollars!” Hagin taught that the hundredfold blessing refers to the rewards that come to those who leave all they have to serve God in ministry.

6. Money cometh. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees for giving money publicly to be seen by others. Yet in the 1990s, some charismatics got the wild idea that God would release a magical blessing if we would drop wads of dollar bills at the preacher’s feet while he was in the middle of his sermon. Leroy Thompson of Louisiana popularized this flamboyant practice with his infamous 1996 sermon, in which he encouraged people to shout in King James English, “Money! Cometh to me now!” Then the people would run to the front of the auditorium to pour cash into his coffers. The money came, for sure, and more cash-hungry preachers jumped on the bandwagon. Taking an offering became a form of exhibitionism, and Christians began viewing their offerings like lottery scratch-offs.

God requires holiness not just in our behavior but also in our doctrine. Let’s discard these and any other foolish teachings that have brought confusion and dishonor to the body of Christ.

J. Lee Grady is the former editor of Charisma. You can follow him on Twitter at @leegrady. He is the author of The Holy Spirit Is Not for Sale and other books

“SIGNS, WONDERS AND MIRACLES!” http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1cX
JESUS CHRIST THE SAME   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xf
GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry
THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/
NATIONAL AWAKENING http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU
BI-SEXUAL SCOUNDREL JIM-BAKKER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/211951342
2014 THE YEAR OF ENEMIES IN MEGA CHURCHES  http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-enemies
MEN OF INTEGRITY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-12p
Pastor Ron Carpenter IS OFF THE WALL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xa
JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob
JOSEPH PRINCE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wa
Beth Moore – False Teacher http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wj
LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp
GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT
EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/
RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU
Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men.http://goo.gl/GjQJ3 http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/
THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0
RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECERhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812
APOSTATE RICK-WARRENhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/
Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU
Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicidehttp://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid
RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970
THE ARROGANT TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017
BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv
ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294
SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp  
Navigating Through The Minefield Of Signs And Wonders
http://www.enterhisrest.org/charismata/protect_deception.pdf
IHOP AND MIKE BICKLE  http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-ihop
SUPERNATURAL SID ROTH  http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/sidroth.html
Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress ”http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn
PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/
REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9
HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/
An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm
TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu
RICK JOYNER THE FOOL http://apprising.org/2012/06/07/the-colossians-heresy-part-3/
THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726
SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf
THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns
FAMILIAR SPIRITS ARE REAL AND DANGEROUS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6x
SELF DELIVERANCEhttp://wp.me/p2M7AJ-11r
STACEY CAMPBELL THE WITCHhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VIR82MGqE

UN-NAMED SCOUNDRELS

Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

6:00AM EDT 9/26/2013    J. LEE GRADY

I spend a lot of time investing in young leaders—and I constantly urge them to learn from the mistakes we made in the previous move of God. I appreciate the positive things the Holy Spirit did during the charismatic movement, but we made a mess because we didn’t lead with integrity.

The apostle Paul gave us a crash course in leadership in his second letter to the Corinthians. While studying that epistle recently, I identified four of the biggest mistakes we made during the charismatic revival. I pray we’ve learned our lesson so we can avoid these flaws in the next season.

1. Charlatanism. We charismatics lost our credibility during the past 30 years because certain greedy preachers manipulated their audiences to pad their own pockets. Just as a little leaven spreads to the whole lump of dough, the charlatans ruined it for all of us.

The apostle Paul told the Corinthians, “For we are not like many, peddling the Word of God” (2 Cor. 2:17, NASB). The Greek word for peddling, kapeleuo, means “to make money by selling; to corrupt; to get gain by teaching divine truth.” How many well-known charismatic preachers started out well but ended up as pitiful peddlers, begging for dollars to pay for luxury cars and mansions they felt they needed to prove their importance? (And now some of these guys have their own reality show, The Preachers of L.A., which airs in October and features Noel Jones and Clarence McClendon.)

 2. Entitlement. Paul continually reminded the Corinthians that he was a servant: “For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake” (2 Cor. 4:5). Servanthood is the most fundamental requirement for any leader. Yet in our movement, we celebrated the opposite attitude by allowing leaders with out-of-control egos to demand special treatment.

I know of one conference speaker who routinely sends a 23-page list of requirements to churches that want her to speak! In the past, some charismatic preachers have demanded shopping money (in addition to their honorariums) and luxury accommodations; others insist they can’t travel without their “armor bearer”—basically a minion who carries a preacher’s briefcase, handkerchief and water bottle to make him look important.

News flash! Paul did not have an armor bearer, and he would have rebuked any minister who insists on acting like a fat cat.

3. Arrogance. The apostle Paul modeled teamwork. When he went to Corinth, Thessalonica or Crete, it was not The Paul Show. He traveled with Luke, Silas, Timothy and many others. He told the Corinthians, “As for Titus, he is my partner and fellow worker among you” (2 Cor. 8:23)—and Paul exhorted the church to view Titus with the same respect they showed him.

Yet in our movement, we put men on pedestals and under spotlights. We created a culture of preacher worship. Leaders began using titles. Then came the limousines and private jets. Some high-profile speakers went so far as to promote the use of bodyguards. And I know of at least one preacher who demanded that a church fly special beef to his hotel so he could have the steak he required. Pride turns men of God into monsters.

 4. Professionalism. Somebody got the bright idea a few years ago that churches should be managed like businesses. So pastors became CEOs, and ministry was put on an assembly line. Congregations became franchises competing with each other to see who could offer the coolest music, the hippest sermons and the best lobby coffee bar. But a funny thing happened on the way to the megachurch: We lost the relational touch.

I’m not against big churches, cool music or coffee bars. But my fear is that leaders today might assume they can buy success by copying the style of this month’s most popular rock-star preacher. I don’t care if you have strobe lights, fog machines, killer musicians and a home-run sermon every week. If people don’t see true brokenness in the pulpit and experience real pastoral care, they will never grow into disciples. Shallow, professional leaders produce shallow Christianity.

 Leaders must be real. Our ministry must flow out of passionate love for God and genuine love for people. The apostle Paul never wore a mask. He was touchable and affectionate. He never went through the motions. He was broken. He knew he was nothing apart from Jesus. He told the Corinthians, “Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me” (2 Cor. 12:9).

Paul told the Corinthians he was careful not to offend in any area “so that the ministry will not be discredited” (2 Cor. 6:3). I wish we had been that careful to guard what God gave us in the charismatic revival. Our flaws have grieved the Holy Spirit. Let’s trade in charlatanism for financial integrity; entitlement for servanthood; the celebrity syndrome for teamwork; and professionalism for touchable authenticity. Let’s become leaders who act like Jesus.

J. Lee Grady is the former editor of Charisma and the director of the Mordecai Project (themordecaiproject.org). You can follow him on Twitter at @leegrady. He is the author of The Holy Spirit Is Not for Sale and other books.

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/41136-four-fatal-flaws-that-ruin-ministries

WHY IS IT THE WOF OR PROSPERITY PREACHERS DON’T TALK ABOUT THE JUDGMENT OF GOD IN THE CURRENT TIME OF LIFE?

For we know Him Who said, Vengeance is Mine [retribution and the meting out of full justice rest with Me]; I will repay [I will exact the compensation], says the Lord. And again, The Lord will judge and determine and solve and settle the cause and the cases of His people. It is a fearful (formidable and terrible) thing to incur the divine penalties and be cast into the hands of the living God! – Hebrews 10:30-31 AMP

1 CORINTHIANS 5:9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner — not even to eat with such a person.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?
13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

Luke 18: 1 Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart,
2 saying: “There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man.
3 Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’
4 And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man,
5 yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’ ”
6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said.
7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them?
8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

HOLY SPIRIT GIFTS http://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/gifts.pdf

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECERhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/

Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU

Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid

RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970

THE ARROGANT  TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp   

 

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BE HOLY

DGBE HOLY

1 Peter 1:15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

Revelation 22:11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”

TO BE HOLY IS MORE THAN A STATE OF MIND OR AN ATTITUDE OF FAITH. TO BE HOLY IS TO NOT PRACTICE OR DEMONSTRATE THE WORKS OF THE FLESH

GALATIANS 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

HOLINESS DOESN’T COME JUST BY WISHFUL THINKING OR A MAGICAL PRAYER. YOU BY YOUR CHOICES AND ACTIONS PLAY AN INTEGRAL PART IN IT

2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Ephesians 4:24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

HOLINESS DOESN’T COME FROM JOSEPH PRINCE TEACHINGS OF GRACE

Prince teaches a so-called gospel devoid of Biblical repentance and based on mental assent, as he implies his heretical once saved always saved belief. Just pray a little prayer and you’re forever saved while in your sins. He brushes off the vital necessity of turning away from wickedness by misapplying the meaning of repentance and therefore doesn’t teach saving faith and its accompanying crucifying the flesh (Gal. 5:24). Joseph Prince stated:
Repentance just means changing your mind. When John the Baptist said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” he was essentially saying, “Change your mind, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” (p. 233)

Permanent Righteousness Without Doing What Is Right
Joseph Prince teaches the typical eternal security imputed righteous message as his secret, which is glaringly lethal:
My friend, righteousness is a gift because of what Jesus has accomplished on the cross for you. All your sins – past, present and future – have been washed clean by His precious blood. You are completely forgiven and from the moment you received Jesus into your life, you will never be held liable for your sins ever again. You have been made as righteous as Jesus…. (pp. 28, 29)
He sees you clothed with Jesus’ righteousness. So begin to see yourself clothed in Jesus’ righteousness. (p. 29)
The more you realize that you are righteous, the more victory you will experience over sin! Wake up every morning and give thanks that you are the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ. (p. 31)
Is Jesus righteous before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He accepted before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He well-pleasing before God? Yes! Then so are you. (p. 58)
God cannot see your sins when they are covered by the blood. (p. 209)

Don’t uncover your sins or the sins of others. They have been completely forgiven by the blood of Jesus (p. 211).
When God looks at you, all He sees is the blood of Jesus that makes you completely righteous. (p. 251)

There is no argument that Jesus is our righteousness (Rom. 1:17; 1 Cor. 1:30; Phil. 3:9; etc.), but that righteous standing before God can change and has for some:
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (2 Pet 2:20-22)

HOLY SPIRIT GIFTS http://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/gifts.pdf
JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob
RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU
Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/
THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0
RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812
APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/
Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU
Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid
RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970
THE ARROGANT  TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017
BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv
ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294
SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp
Coming Wars and Worldwide Catastrophes http://blog.petertan.net/?p=595
 
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There is no problem that Jesus cannot solve and no sickness that Jesus cannot heal but it doesn’t matter how much you sing and dance and praise the Lord, if you are in rebellion or have not dealt with unconfessed sin in your life, God will not move on your behalf!
MINISTERING GOD AND HIS GIFTS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-GZ
Gods Will Is Healing http://goo.gl/bSrmc   http://www.scribd.com/doc/12404063/
God Hears And Answers Prayers http://goo.gl/l62Q0 http://www.scribd.com/doc/12779089/
The Effective, Fervent Prayer http://goo.gl/NRZMa  http://www.scribd.com/doc/19706617
The All Sufficient Christ http://goo.gl/4QgB4