THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE-THE FOUNDER AND ORIGINATOR OF THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT  

My earliest exposure to the Laughter Movement was in the latter part of 1994 when I read a feature article on Rodney Howard Browne in Stephen Strang’s Charisma Magazine. The so called “outbreaks of revivals” drew my interest and attention but the manifestation of Laughter in these meetings sounded unscriptural to me. So I put the matter off my mind for a season, so to say. My interest was rekindled some time later when there was a local outbreak of laughter among people I personally knew but again I shrugged it off as perhaps something “of the flesh” and something having no spiritual significance. Then one fine day it dawned upon me that a thing of the flesh cannot possibly spread from Toronto to the United Kingdom and to Australia and New Zealand and even to our shores here in such a short period of time. Certainly there could not have been that many actors and actresses acting out their parts in so many cities of the world at the same time! Since then the burden in my heart has been to delve into the root of this phenomenon using God’s Word as my spiritual lamp. The notes appended below and following are the result of months of critical analysis and research through the Bible, books, magazines, articles downloaded from the Internet, videos of Rodney Howard Browne, personal observation and testimonies from many different sources.

The basis of our Christian Faith is in the person of Jesus Christ. We are christians because we believe what the Lord says in the Bible. So likewise we have to know something about the founder of the Laughter Movement and the kind of things he says so that we can decide whether to put our faith in him or not. Who then is Rodney Howard-Browne and what are the things he says?

“In July of 1979, at eighteen years of age, Rodney M. Howard-Browne of Port Elizabeth, South Africa, reached a crossroads in his life……. while at an interdenominational prayer meeting with about eighteen young people at this time, he cried out to the Lord, `God, either you come down here tonight and touch me, or I’m going to die and come up there and touch you.’ He began shouting, frightening nearly everyone who was present. He shouted for twenty minutes……”(1)

Now the first thing to note is that Rodney Howard-Browne reached a crossroad in his life. There is nothing wrong with a crossroad provided you take the right turning. A wrong spiritual turning could be disastrous!

If you analyse Rodney’s prayer carefully you will notice the following points:

*THIS PRAYER SAYS LET MY WILL BE DONE INSTEAD OF LET THY WILL BE DONE

*THIS PRAYER VIOLATES THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD.
God’s Word says that we can only receive what is given [to us] from above. In the spiritual realm, God initiates sovereignly; our duty is to align ourselves to His Will and purpose.
John 3:27
27 To this John replied, “A man can receive only what is given him from heaven. (NIV)

*THIS PRAYER IS NOT HEARD BECAUSE GOD ONLY HEARS PRAYER THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS WILL……
I Jn 5:14
14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. (NIV )

Notice that Rodney Howard Browne threatened to commit suicide if his demand was not met.

When we try to arm-twist or demand something from God, we are in essence asking for something OUT OF HIS WILL. So according to the above Scripture, when we ask out of HIS WILL, God does not hear us. On the other hand, someone else will hear and answer us. We must be aware that there are other spiritual forces at work in this universe.

“In a 1994 interview on TBN with Paul Crouch, Rodney Howard-Browne said…..while he was preaching…. `People began to fall out of their seats…rolling on the floor. The air was moving. People began to laugh uncontrollably while there wasn’t anything funny…..”(2)

So began the so-called Laughter Revival in the United States. Now if you look carefully at Figure No.1 you will notice that this “laughter anointing” passed down from Rodney Howard-Browne to Randy Clark (who apparently came close to a nervous breakdown in 1993) and from Randy Clark the “anointing” passed downwards again to John Arnott, the present pastor of the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church. John’s church was apparently in a “hospital mode”, (presumably spiritually sick), before the outpouring of the Laughter anointing. Later, John himself described this anointing as `highly contagious and transferable.”(3) The services in this church are reputed to have gone on for six nights a week since January 1994. From Toronto, this Laughter Movement has spread to many parts of the world. The ultimate source of the Laughter Movement therefore is still Rodney Howard-Browne.

Now let us analyse some of the things Rodney Howard-Browne says and whether his sayings have any Scriptural validity. The sayings of Rodney Howard-Browne (in italics) below are compared with Scriptures which are in bold.

SAYINGS OF RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…
“As long as something is happening it really does not matter if it is of God, of man or of the devil.” Personal Freedom Outreach Newsletter, Personal Freedom Outreach, PO Box 26062, St Louis, USA Pages 3, 4 and 5.

I Jn 4:1
1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…..
” …if you are a preacher of the gospel and you [are] no longer able to preach, I tell you that’s a miracle. To quieten any preacher is a major move of God.” Sign and Wonders Camp Meeting USA Video #5, April 1994

Rom 10:14
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE SAYS…..
“…the very air was moving. People began to laugh uncontrollably while there wasn’t anything funny…. The less I preached, the more people were saved.” A History of the Revival by Richard Riss, Page 5

Mark 16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS……
“One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed” Charisma Magazine, August 1994, page 24.

Luke 16:23-24
23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
24 So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ (NIV)

“Zacharias was struck dumb for nine months……..And somebody said, `well that was a curse’. But it really wasn’t….” Video entitled “The Holy Laugh”, United Kingdom 1994

Luke 1:18-20
18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.
19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
20 And, behold, THOU SHALT BE DUMB, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, BECAUSE THOU BELIEVEST NOT MY WORDS, which shall be fulfilled in their season. (KJV) Emphasis Mine

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…..
“Let it flow like a river, let it flow like a river. GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE WAY. Let it bubble out of your belly like rivers of living water….” Video entitled “The Coming Revival”, Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida.

Luke 10:27
27 He answered:”‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your MIND’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'” (NIV) Emphasis Mine

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS……
“I can see some of you praying.DON’T PRAY. Pray when you get back into the car…..” From a tract entitled “The Toronto Blessing, No Laughing Matter, published by Old Paths Publishing House, PO BOX 126, Singapore 9155.

1Thes 5:17-18
17 PRAY CONTINUALLY;
18 give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (NIV) Emphasis Mine.

As you can see from the above, the sayings of Rodney Howard-Browne are contrary to the teachings of the Bible. Are you going to believe Rodney Howard-Browne or are you going to believe the Inspired Word of God?

Nelson’s Bible Dictionary defines a prophet as follows….

PROPHET
A person who spoke for God and who communicated God’s message courageously to God’s Chosen People– the nation of Israel. Nelson’s Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (C) 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers

A prophet is one who speaks God’s Word. A false prophet is one who speaks God’s Word falsely. He distorts the truth of God’s Word. He also claims false revelation from God which is opposed to the Word of God. The verses below from Matthew Chapter 24 was spoken by Jesus to his disciples.

Matt 24:3-4
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. (NIV)

The disciples were believers. So, in essence, Jesus is warning the christians today to be careful `not to be deceived’. There is no point in warning the non-christians as they are already in a state of deception……

2 Cor 4:4
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (NIV)

False Prophets operate through the process of deception. They lead christians into error (by distorting and twisting the Word of God). If it were possible, these false prophets would also deceive God’s Elect by performing lying signs and wonders [and claiming these to be from the Holy Spirit]…..

Matt 24:11
11 And many FALSE PROPHETS will rise up and DECEIVE and LEAD MANY INTO ERROR. (AMPLIFIED BIBLE-EMPHASIS MINE)

Matt 24:24
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect– if that were possible. (NIV)

Remember that they will come IN HIS NAME and therefore mas-querade as “christian” ministers….

Matt 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, `LORD, LORD, DID WE NOT PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Away from me, you EVILDOERS!’ (NIV) Emphasis Mine.

Does the name Rodney Howard-Browne ring some bells now?

EXTRACT  DECEIVING THE ELECT- A SCRIPTURAL AND CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT by Dr. Eddy Cheong http://www.agape.com/laughter.htm

FOOT NOTE

OF COURSE I DESPISE PENTECOSTAL EVANGELIST/PASTOR RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER AND THE CLOWN WITH HIS FALSE DOCTORATE DEGREE AND SO DOES GOD. HE HATES ANYBODY WHO FLEECES SHEEP IN HIS NAME!

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE who is accountable to no one but himself not only practices nepotism but has had members of his family on the payroll of his nonprofit institution! He believes in repaying evil for good! So when Pastor Karl Strader robbed him of money during the Lakeland revival of 1993-94 he repaid him with a new Lincoln town car. Of course the money didn’t come out of his own pocket but from the love offering of the dumb trusting sheep! NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241 TO STEPHEN STRADER http://blog.thewaycf.com/2008/08/to-stephen-strader-re-todd-bentley.html

In theory Browne came to America from South Africa to “revive” a largely sleeping church. He quickly got labeled as a Holy Ghost “bartender” because of the manifestations of “holy laughter” dominating his ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members. Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida, for the bible stated:

1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Christmas morning, Dec 25, 2002, changed the lives of Dr’s Rodney and Adonica Howard-Browne forever. It was early hours of that morning, that Kelly, their 18 year old daughter, passed away in his arms. She had suffered from the incurable disease, Cystic Fibrosis for 18 years.

As she passed away, Rodney and Adonica offered up to Jesus the best gift they had to offer, their daughter. Rodney then vowed, that because the devil had taken their daughter with this dreaded disease, he would pay with 100 million souls over the next 10 years.

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

Gordon Williams response to Karl Strader http://truelightministries.org/blog1/archives/70

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE NUTS

With Real Concern for the Third Wave, Word-of-Faith, Signs & Wonders, Laughing Charismatics

With Real Concern for the Third Wave, Word-of-Faith, Signs & Wonders, Laughing Charismatics

What’s going on in there?

Satan’s goal is for deception, the leaven of apostasy, and the destruction of God’s work!

Is this laughter movement of God, or are the devils laughing the hardest of all?

Jesus is the TRUTH personified (John 14:6); the Devil is the LIE personified. (John 8:44).

Are you following the TRUTH or the LIE?

“Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven…the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees” (Mat. 16:6,12). “Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?” (1 Cor. 5:6). Should we identify with the Charismatic and Ecumenical movements? Are the great changes sweeping through churches in the twentieth century in keeping with God’s Word?

The honest Charismatic Christians believe the sign-gifts are valid for today and have true motives and efforts to follow Scripture. These ones are trying to be faithful to God in prayer, bringing God praise, evangelism, a stand for justification by grace through faith, and some have an expository pulpit message. Charismatic pastors include those who are very concerned about apostasy and the bizarre phenomenon appearing in the churches.

Other Charismatics openly follow experiences that oppose Scripture. Once this standard is adopted in preference to the Word of God, the depraved imaginations of man or devil arise to the occasion. LYING leaders are deplorable anywhere! They include the cheap politicians and the corrupt preachers.
What Kind of Leaders?

The television audience, flicking past the Soaps and the Muppets, often pause at the Trinity Broadcasting Network to wonder at the incredible display of shallowness, extravagance, and New Age brand of Christianity. Long-haired male role-models adorn the “glory” of the woman, ignorant about the worldwide standard of manliness, “nature,” or their “shame” (1 Cor. 11:1-19). Jan Crouch replaced Tammy Faye as the Queen-of-the-painted-ladies and the fairy-god-mother of religious fantasy. What in the world did TBN supporters learn out of the whole PTL mess? What Christian trying to witness has not been mocked in the wake of the Bakker and Swaggart scandals! The founder of TBN, Paul Crouch boasts, “I am a little god! Critics be gone!” :”(Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, Eugene: Harvest House,
1993), p. 112)”:

The Apostle Peter warned about religious leaders who are lustful and are experts in greed. They capture converts and exploit the weak (2 Pet. 2:14-19). In contrast to TBN’s foolishness, the cults on television deceptively look like true wholesome New Testament Christianity! It is easy to see how people get confused.

Kenneth Hagin, is known as the father of the Word-Faith movement. He actually plagiarized E.W. Kenyon “whose life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of the Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 32.)”: Kenyon was an occultist! :”(G. Richard Fisher, A Look at Spiritual Pandemonium, Personal Freedom
Outreach Journal, Oct.-Dec. 1994, p. 16)”:

Avanzini, Capps, Cerullo, Cho, Copeland, Crouch, Hickey, Howard-Browne, Price, Savelle, and Tilton all follow these same doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1). Now Kenneth Copeland whines, “I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 125)”:

Rodney Howard-Browne believes Jesus left His deity in Heaven. What a serious error! Jesus charged the Jews, “if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins…Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:24,58). :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 15,16)”:

Marilyn Hickey tells others to just create what you need, speaking it into being, “Speak to your billfold. Say, ‘You big, thick billfold full of money…You’re just jammed full of money” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 351)”:

The wealthiest Word-Faith preachers have the biggest mailing lists. Confession works in one direction, from the suckers in the audience to the Faith preacher.

What Kind of Signs and Wonders?

John Wimber of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship, holds “Signs and Wonders Seminars” throughout the world, claiming healing is promised in the atonement. A sign of the movement’s confusion is evident. Wimber is sick with cancer!

Miracles do not prove God’s favor. In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, God “proveth” or tests the love of His people by seeing if they will go after a “prophet” who has “a sign or a wonder” (vs. 3,1). God wants His own to “fear” Him enough to “put the evil away from the midst of thee” (vs. 4-5). The “prophet or a dreamer of dreams” will lead people to the a “little g” god (vs. 1-2)! Kenneth Copeland’s blasphemes, “You don’t have a god in you, you are one!” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 110)”: Under the Law, God commanded the ultimate censuring of such heretics for the sake of purity – death! (vs. 5). God’s counsel, to either choose between false teachers who approach His people or else obedience to His Word, is still strong today. God measures the love that people claim. The barometer is if you really love Him, then you will obey Him (John 14:21)!

In the “last days…evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived” (2 Tim. 3:1,13). The Lord Jesus warned that “many” prophets doing these wonders in His name will be damned to hell (Mat. 7:21-23)! You wouldn’t want to be identified with evil, would you? “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah” (Mat. 12:39). The point is that the resurrection of the Son of God ought to be sufficient to bring joy into your life! Rodney Howard-Browne admits to elevating an experience with the devil above the TRUTH, “But I’d rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything.” :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 13)”:

Charismatics prophesy a worldwide revival for the end times. They are wrong! Wide-spread turning to Christ is not predicted until the tribulation preaching of the 144,000! Scripture predicts for this period a great number of false teachers, false prophets, LYING signs and wonders, and a great falling away from the TRUTH to follow seducing spirits! Prophecy points to an ever-increasing worldwide apostasy with many false prophets deceiving many, not a revival (Mat. 24:3-5, 11)! “False prophets…shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” (Mat. 24:24)! “Satan” is working toward “all power and signs and lying wonders” (2 Thes. 2:7-9)! He is the master of “great wonders,” and “miracles” (Rev. 13:13-14)! Christian, be wary of the demonic deception of the “Signs and Wonders” movement of the last days.

The New Age Religion also received the signs and wonders by the laying on of hands! Humanity is headed for a one-world religion that is open to deception in the name of Jesus. It’s as if the cults use the name “Jesus” as their password for authenticity! The New Age produces unity with diversity and it lacks judgment. :”(Albert James Dager, “Rodney Howard-Browne and the Toronto Blessing,”
Media Spotlight, 1995, pp. 13,15.)”: Some Charismatics are even guilty of presenting the Holy Spirit as a spirit guide. :”(T. Tillin, “Is It Revival?” Banner Ministries, Summer 1994)”: Incredible! Satan cleverly turns multitudes to the false teachers while making a mockery of Christianity! Many who follow a feel-good religion are not ready to hear the hard sayings of Christ (John 6:60). The only disciples that the Lord Jesus commends will “continue” in the Word of TRUTH (John 8:31-32)! Test all experiences by Scripture and follow the Lord!

What Kind of Prophesy?

We know Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, and the Watchtower are false prophets. How about the Charismatics who declare, “Thus saith the Lord…” and “God’s message for you is…”? Jesus gave a powerful warning. Do not ignore it! “Beware of false prophets … Ye shall know them by their fruits” (Mat. 7:15,16). The “fruit” of a false prophet is a false prophecy!

By definition, a false prophet is described in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. Explanations in parenthesis are mine. “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word (just one) in my name (words like “The Lord told me…” or “I just sense in my spirit”), which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. (Censuring false prophets protects people from deep hurt and loss of confidence in God’s Word. Do we read: “Let that prophet readjust his figures”? “Forget the past”? “Give him a second chance”? “We all make mistakes”? “He may be just ‘kind-of-a-prophet’”? “Wait and see what harm was done first”? No!) And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? (That is a good question!) When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, (False charismatic prophesy is common! God spoke through the prophets when? In times PAST! That’s history! Hebrews 1:1), but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: (Stick with the “more sure Word of prophecy” which is Scripture! 2 Peter 1:19) thou shalt not be afraid of him.” (Don’t let the scare tactics rattle you. Mature Christians look for Jesus to come, but do not set dates or follow those who do!)

Anyone who goes after false prophets after all the warnings from God is very, very foolish! The Charismatic prophets miserably fail the test of a true prophet. They claim to be :”(T. Tillin, ‘Is It Revival?’ Banner Ministries, Summer 1994)”: to 65% accurate! C. Peter Wagner said in Indianapolis, “Many of your churches also are now becoming involved in prophetic movement. And I’m talking about serious prophecy; I’m talking about Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah kind of prophecy, where God speaks to the churches.” :”(David W. Cloud, ‘Charismatic Confusion in Indianapolis,’ O TIMOTHY,
Special Issue, p. 30)”: Such boasting is common among false prophets. The Watchtower said a group was to speak as a “prophet…as was done toward Ezekiel,” known as “Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses” :”(Watchtower, March 15, 1972, p.189-190)”: Definitely wrong! TRUE prophets are zealous against sin and error (Jer. 14:14; 23:16-32; 27:15; Zech. 13:2-5)!

Rodney Howard-Browne predicted an outpouring of the Spirit in which, “Eyeballs will form, legs and arms will grow out…” He said God will very soon begin to miraculously transport people from place to place. He has the same source of information as Benny Hinn who said, Adam, “with one thought he would be on the moon.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 119)”: Astral projection is of the occult, connected with voodoo and the black arts. :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 14)”:

Charismatic leaders LIED about Bob Jones’s (not the godly Bob Jones of Bob Jones University) prophetic dating of a drought. Paul Cain, “the most anointed prophet that’s in the world today,” gushingly predicted, “So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last days because the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man!” Maturity? It’s just more Corinthian carnality and heresy (1 Cor. 3:3)! Paul Cain messed up on the timing of an earthquake; but Wimber claimed it came true! :”()”: Don’t put up with “ignorant” people who think they are prophets and care less for decency and order (1 Cor. 14:37-40)!

What Kind of Revelation?

John Hinkle heard a voice saying that on June 9, 1994, “I will rip all evil from the earth” etc. Lacking common sense and a respect for biblical TRUTH, the Trinity Broadcasting Network was sucked in and became the vehicle for the LYING spirit! :”(Cloud, ibid., p. 31,34-35)”: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1)!

Gullible crowds embraced Peter Popoff as he claimed God spoke directly to him while he really had his wife speaking to him by an electronic ear device. Like Lea and Popoff, Robert Tilton had to be exposed by the secular world before this religious movement would censure him. Where is this “spirit of discernment”?

Under “revelation knowledge,” Benny Hinn claimed each Person of the Trinity is triune so “there’s nine of them” and “Jesus was born again!” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., pp. 123, 173)”: Study the Bible and sit under the preaching of a faithful man of God so you won’t get sucked into these extra-biblical teachings!

James Ryle, a Wimber associate, said, “The Lord spoke to me and said, ‘What you saw in the Beatles–the gifting and sound that they had–was from Me.’” :”(M.H. Reynolds, “False Prophets…Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel,”
Fundamental Evangelistic Association, Vol. XII, Issue 1)”: Hold the applause; the Beatles were completely antichrist! (Send for a Beatles paper). Ryle’s vision from a god was nothing more than a Satanic delusion.

Oral Robert’s god held him hostage until people gave him more money! He also made a mistake on the cost of this faith-healer’s hospital. Clearly, his god does not know the future! Rodney Howard-Browne does, so he says! He reports occurrences of knowing “what’s going to happen one year, two years, three years in the future.” :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 15)”: Folks, God does not give us omniscience. The fortune-teller techniques open up all kinds of delusion. John Wimber said Christ could come at any time; but soon afterwards said little unborn children would live to see the coming of the Lord. :”(Reynolds, ibid)”: – That’s like, just blab whatever sounds good at the time!

What Kind of Evangelism?

Dr. Jack Deere, is one of the top theological leaders of the Vineyard Power Evangelism movement along with C. Peter Wagner. He says that the gospel is not about Jesus Christ who died for our sins and was buried and raised on the third day. When probed at length for an answer to explain the gospel, he was asked, “Could you perhaps tell me informally what you believe to be the gospel?” All Deere could say was, “I’m not sure.” :”(Reynolds, ibid)”:

The word “power” tickles the ears of this crowd; so they claim to have “power evangelism!” Larry Lea, “The Apostle of Prayer” for this century, took authority over San Francisco to drive out all of the homosexuals! (What an embarrassment as he bellowed across the airwaves daily about his spiritual warfare!) Get this; the homosexuals are still there, laughing at Christians! The Charismatic world applauded Lea, a self-condemned LIAR. It took secular television to pull back his fleece! “Power Evangelism” is nothing more than a powerful sound-system — blasting to the sheep and goats lost in their little wilderness of confusion!

These pip-squeaks think they bind the devil while Michael, God’s POWERFUL angel had to say, “The Lord rebuke thee.” John Wimber personally comes against the devil as he commands the Holy Spirit to help and Satan to leave!2 :”(Reynolds, ibid)”:

What Kind of Healing?

Frederick Price does not allow sickness in his home so he says; but his wife was treated for cancer! :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 237)”: Charles and Francis Hunter while holding a healing crusade, sent Francis to the doctor because of pink eye.24

Jamie Buckingham, editor-at-large for the Charismatic Movement’s most prominent magazine, Charisma, was pronounced healed of cancer by his wife, Oral Roberts and other false prophets. Buckingham claimed, the still small voice of God told him he would live to be a hundred. He died of cancer in 1992. Religious people need to think! This editor with such great responsibility for the reports and articles to the Charismatic world listened to a voice but it was not God’s!25

William Branham, of the Oneness-Pentecostal cult, is one of the great fathers of the modern healing movement. He pronounced great numbers healed who died of the same problems shortly following their “healing” experience.26 Branham denounced the trinity as coming directly from the devil; yet Hagin, Copeland, and Hinn speak highly of the cult leader!27

Various cults testify of healings and blessings flowing from their ministries. Even when healings are real, that is still no proof that they came from God (Deut. 13:1-5; Mat. 7:21-23).

What Kind of Testimony?

Is the “Holy” Laughter Movement Christianity? Should we call it Satananity? Is it really Sanity at all?

The 700 Club and TBN crowds are hungry for signs and wonders, gratifying experiences, and goose-bump feelings. They are wide open to the demonic logic of the satanic counterfeits. The devils are laughing over the whole sham of these public spectacles in the name of Jesus Christ! Entertainment, emotionalism, and excitement still fill a church; but as in Hosea’s day, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee… seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” (Hosea 4:6).

What Kind of Wine?

People have a choice whether to blindly follow a popular voice in the religious world or to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God” (2 Tim. 2:15)! Joy (chara) is not interchangeable with laughter (galeo). Joy is an inner delight with God for all He has done and is doing. Joy comes from believing God’s Word (Rom. 15:13; John 15:11). Joy remains during our trials after laughter is gone (2 Cor. 8:2; 1 Thes. 1:6; Jam. 1:2). Correctly interpreted, Proverbs 17:22 emphasizes the rejoicing heart contrasted to a broken spirit.

There is no biblical gift for a spirit of laughter. Rodney Howard-Browne repeats, “Fill — let it bubble out your belly — Ho-ho, He-he — Fill — Ho-ho-ho, Ho-ha-ha.” His spiritual expressions and methodology are more at home with the occult than in Christianity.28 Never is there the slightest hint in Scripture that we are to worship God from the belly. “Living waters,” in John 7:38, has nothing to do with laughter! The “living waters” symbolize the Holy Spirit who dwells in the heart or the innermost part of a Christian.

Rodney Howard-Browne’s meetings are not Spirit-filled laughter or joy, but hysteria and frenzy which are clearly condemned by God! This bunch is responsible as millions view the chaos and disorder as a “Christian” madness (1 Cor. 14:23). Rodney Howard-Browne likes to call himself “The Holy Ghost Bartender” who dispenses “new wine”29 In Ephesians 5:18, the filling of the Holy Spirit will manifest Himself in honoring God musically, melody in hearts, thankfulness, fear, and good marriages. See the context! This verse will never justify “laughing in the spirit.”

What Kind of Power?

Every Christian ought to view this “falling under the power” with grave concern! Born-again believers are not safe from satanic deceptions and experiences while fulfilling conditions for demonic activity. The closest biblical counterparts of those who fall backwards, called “slain in the spirit” today, include those who are the sinning, the unbelieving, the demonized, and God’s enemies! A demon-possessed son fell into the fire and the water (Mat. 17:15). Judas and his band fell backwards when Jesus identified Himself as the great “I am” (John 18:6). Saul of Tarsus and company all fell to the earth before Jesus’ glory (Acts 26:13,14). The priest and the erring prophet of wine and vomit fell backwards in Isaiah 28:13. Are they different from the new wine and the “vomiting-in-the-spirit” and the “slain-in-the-spirit” at a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting?

Worship is always to be biblical, orderly and reverent in manner. God’s Word underscores a true spiritual response to God’s power. The godly, in reverential awe, adoration and worship, fall forward in a prostrate position. There is no trace of hysterical laughter or convulsions (Gen. 17:1-3; Lev. 9:24; Joshua 5:13-15; Ez. 1:28; 43:1-5; 44:4; Mat. 17:5-6; 28:9-10; Rev. 1:17; 7:11; 11:16-17).

The phenomena is clearly explained in O TIMOTHY Magazine, Bible Baptist Church, 1219 N. Harns Road, Oak Harbor, WA 98277, Volume 11, Issue 9-10, 1994.

What Kind of Spirits?

The spirit of antichrist will appear to be Christ. As the serpent beguiled Eve, believers are seduced by “another spirit” (2 Cor. 11:3,4).

The “Holy” Laughter movement, like the Mormon movement, developed through a boy with an experience from a god. Rodney Howard-Browne says he prayed, “Either You come down here and touch me, or I will come up there and touch You.”30 He will meet God one day all right! But it will be on his face and bended knees (Isaiah 6; Phil. 2:10)!

You can’t trust demons. John Wimber gets doctrine from demons! He says some demons have bodies etc. because the demons told him.31 Wimber admittedly does not know if the encounters taking place in the Vineyard movement are from God or the devil. In fact, he says “there’s nothing in Scripture that supports these kinds of phenomena.” Surely you would expect the head of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship that popularized this movement to go to the Word and test the spirits whether they are of God (1 John 4:1)! No, Wimber says, “So I feel no obligation to try to explain it.”32

Howard-Browne’s proof that this is the move of God is that when he leaves it doesn’t stop.33 People, think! The blasphemous re-crucifixion of Christ in the Mass does not stop (Heb. 9:28; 10:10)! Rock music, the occult, or Satan’s effort to destroy this generation does not stop! The aberrations in the Church at Corinth did not stop because Paul left; they stopped because the Apostle confronted them with the book of 1 Corinthians. Then by the time he wrote 2 Corinthians, the carnal extravagance stopped.

A study of demonology reveals that demons interact with the mind, the emotions and the flesh. God deals with us primarily in the spirit. A 1994 article of Charisma quotes Rodney Howard-Browne as saying, “One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed.” Friends, the Great White Throne judgment and the horrors of hell are no laughing matter! The works of the flesh and Satan’s devils mock the Word of God and interrupt scripture. Could Browne single-handedly get so many people to fall for such a Satanic mockery? These people are responding to the powers of darkness. Their attitudes took a bad change toward preaching about God, sin, morality, growing in grace, and the Church.

SIGNS AND WONDERS? One wonders why this group bothers to use the Bible at all. The focus is reduced to “will it sell?” Jesus Christ’s command to “Go ye into all the world” becomes “Come to our meetings!” A “new zeal for evangelism” is a zeal to draw other people into the same religious aberrations. The idea of evangelizing people is to zap them.34 Their substitute is a cheap “go-with-the-flow” message.

Howard-Browne blusters how at the age of twelve, “The voice said these words to me…Your mom will not be home today.”35 Are Browne’s experiences that of some super-saint or one involved with clairvoyance? People are encouraged to let go of their doctrine and clear their minds of any biblical objections. He says this is “The only way you’re going to understand what God is doing is with your heart.”36 (Check your brain at the door!) Beloved, God warns that your heart is deceitful and desperately wicked (Jer. 17:9)! The Bereans used their minds, searching the Scriptures even to check out the true preachers of integrity, the Apostles! Then God commended them (Acts. 17:11; 1 Thes. 5:21). Without the principles of the Word of God, how are we to see through the deceptions, the complex issues, the false Jesus, the false gospel, and the false Spirit? (2 Cor. 11:4)

In a movement so theologically poverty-stricken, real preaching is very rare! Preaching is reduced to silly shallowness, subjectivism, and spiritual hype. Scriptures are jerked out of context to legitimize the experience (smart devil)! Charisma magazine admits that the pulpit becomes irrelevant. The whole blasphemous circus makes “the word of God of none effect” (Mark 7:13).37 A sign of demonic activity is demonstrated by the irreverence, ignorance, intimidation, brainwashing techniques, fundraising games, and overall hypocrisy. This kind of Charismatic phenomena departed from the Headship of Christ, the authority of Scripture, the mission of Bible evangelism and Bible education. Now it’s all a joke to them!

Some pastors recognize the sham but they never rebuke the sin. Such cowardly shepherds pet the wolves who eat the lambs!

Notes:

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24 Cloud, ibid., p. 22.
25 David W. Cloud, “Charismatic Leader Dies After Being Healed,” O
TIMOTHY, (1992), pp. 1-8.
26 Cloud, Special Issue, pp. 46-48.
27 Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 30.
28 Fisher, ibid., 12,13.
29 Dager, ibid., p. 10.
30 Dager, ibid. p. 2.
31 Cloud, Special Issue, p. 38.
32 Dager, ibid. p. 4,5.
33 Dager, ibid. p. 3.
34 T. Tillian, ibid.
35 Fisher, ibid., p. 14.
36 Dager, ibid. p. 5.
37 Dager, ibid., p. 12.

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    Mike Bickle explains how the grace of God has been distorted. (istockphoto.com/Amphotora Golfladi)

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The most powerful, significant and liberating message ever given to the human race is the gospel of grace. The Christian life is established on the foundation of this wonderful truth, which emphasizes what Christ did for us on the cross and what the Holy Spirit does in us in our daily life. Paul’s dramatic declaration that we have become new creations in Christ has vast implications for our lives: “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away … all things have become new … that we [our spirit] might become the righteousness of God in Him” (2 Cor. 5:17-21).

The “he” that is a new creation is our spirit man. We possess the very righteousness of God in our spirit (v. 21). This describes our new legal position in Christ—how God sees and relates to us. In Christ, all things have become new pertaining to our spirit. This includes being fully accepted by God, receiving the authority to use the name of Jesus and possessing the indwelling Holy Spirit—all of which enable us to resist sin, sickness and Satan; to walk in victory; and to release the works of God through prayer. The old things that passed away under this legal shift include no longer being under the penalty of sin nor being dominated by the power of sin.

So what’s the problem if we’ve been given such freedom as new creations? Unfortunately, man’s natural tendency to distort truth gets in the way. And when it comes to a truth as fundamental and crucial as grace, that distortion has far-reaching implications. In short, it can become the central crisis of an entire generation.

The Crisis of Our Time

The apostle Jude confronted the great spiritual crisis of his day when he exhorted believers to contend earnestly for the “faith” or for the message of grace originally delivered to them through the first apostles. In Jude 3-4, he writes: “I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain men have crept in unnoticed … ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness.”

Think about this: Within one generation after Jesus’ resurrection, it was already necessary to contend for the true grace message. That’s how key this battle over the true grace message is and always has been since Jesus’ definitive work on the cross.

Jude warned of certain men who crept into the fellowship of the church unnoticed—that is, their error went unnoticed by most of the leaders and the people. These men turned the message of grace into a message of lewdness or one that affirmed various compromises, even sexual immorality. These men with persuasive teaching abilities twisted what the Bible said about grace, thus empowering many to confidently continue in sinful activities without feeling any urgency to repent.

Undoubtedly, these teachers of error appeared outwardly to live godly, but in their private lives they refused to repent of various lusts. Instead, they justified their ungodly habits by distorting the message of grace to accommodate their lifestyles.

The result was devastating, as many in the church concluded that it was acceptable for them also to live with similar compromises because these popular teachers were justifying this sort of lifestyle with various Bible verses. In reality, they took these verses out of context of the broader New Testament message, which called believers to live in wholehearted love for Jesus as evidenced by seeking to live in obedience to Him (John 14:15, 21).

The same is true with hyper-grace teachers today. They choose to emphasize only God’s love and forgiveness while practically ignoring Jesus’ call for His people to walk in wholehearted commitment to the Lord. They preach mostly on forgiveness without repentance and on receiving God’s blessing on their circumstances without any conditions. The truth is, it’s glorious that we are freely forgiven by Jesus and that He blesses our circumstances; but these truths are in context to seeking to live in a real relationship with Him and in agreement with His leadership and Word.

Jude’s exhortation is a significant warning for the body of Christ today. When the grace message is distorted, everything else in one’s spiritual life becomes blurred. In fact, there is no spiritual battle more significant in the church today than contending to keep the grace message faithful to Scripture.

Sadly, some believers aren’t even aware of this spiritual crisis regarding a diluted grace message. They must wake up to the emergency at hand—because today, as we contend for the spirit of truth, we are fighting for the very soul of a generation.

It’s easier in today’s world for teachers to creep in unnoticed, as Jude said, because of television and the Internet. Some contemporary teachers distorting the message of grace come from high-profile ministries whose very popularity gives them a false sense of credibility. We must not receive a ministry because it’s attractive and popular; we should only receive it if it’s faithful to the truth.

Paul prophesied of a time when many who profess loyalty to Jesus would fall to unsound doctrine: “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables” (2 Tim. 4:3-4).

These people aren’t willing to embrace the challenges of a lifestyle of obedience to Jesus as emphasized by the sound teaching in the New Testament. Instead, they have “itching ears” to hear messages that affirm their sinful desires. They want to feel comfortable in their relationship with God, even as they continue to boldly walk out their sinful lusts.

By isolating Bible verses about God’s blessing and forgiveness from the larger context of the New Testament’s call to love Jesus with obedience, they affirm the lustful desires of their hearers. One famous TV preacher went so far to say that there is no longer a need for a believer to repent because Jesus’ work on the cross did that for them. He obviously overlooked the fact that Jesus repeatedly called born-again believers to repent for yielding to various compromises (see Rev. 2:5, 16, 21-22; 3:3, 19).

Grace: The Power to Love and Obey Jesus

If countless sincere believers have already succumbed to the rising tide of this distorted grace message, how can we stand strong through the crisis? It starts by remaining grounded in biblical truth. We must approach the biblical grace message through the lens of God calling us to love Him with all our heart, soul, mind and strength (Mark 12:30).

The Lord wants us to love Him in a wholehearted way because that’s how He loves us—with all of His heart, mind and strength. This mutual relationship of wholehearted love between a believer and the Lord is foundational to the kingdom. In fact, this is the very way that the Father loves the Son—with all of His heart. The Son loves the Father and the Spirit loves the Father and Son in this way too. Oh, the glorious mystery of one God in three persons who delight in Their relationship of wholehearted love for each other (see John 3:35; 5:20; 14:31; 15:9; 17:23, 26)! God’s plan from the foundation of the earth was to redeem people so that they could participate in this loving fellowship that the three persons of the Trinity enjoy.

The core reality of the grace message is to empower us to walk with God in a relationship of wholehearted love. Jesus called this “the first commandment” (Mark 12:30). Thus, the Holy Spirit’s first agenda is to establish the first commandment in first place in the church. This must also be our first agenda. Wholehearted love is to be “first” in our response to God because it is how the Father relates to the Son and how the Godhead relates to us. We must see grace through the lens of this quality of love. To think of grace without it being anchored in the first commandment is to be aiming at the wrong target. Thus, we distort the grace message when we do not interpret it through the lens of the first commandment. We must love Jesus on His terms, and He defined loving God in terms of a spirit of obedience to His commandments (see John 14:15, 21, 23).

There’s no such thing as loving Jesus without seeking to obey His Word. Some seek to love God on the terms of a humanistic culture that has no reference to obeying the Word. But loving and seeking to obey Jesus are synonymous. All of His commands are based in His love. Thus, the biblical message of grace teaches us to live righteously and to deny ungodliness as the way of expressing our love to God. Titus 2:11-12 says, “The grace of God … has appeared to all men, teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly.”

If you hear a teaching on grace that doesn’t call you to deny ungodliness, it’s not a biblical grace message—it’s a distorted one.

Legal Position vs. Living Condition

As we correctly view the grace message through the lens of the first commandment, we can also begin to understand the difference between our legal position before God and our ongoing living condition as a response to what Jesus has done. Not only is there a key difference between these two, it’s often the element that hyper-grace adherents conveniently overlook.

Our legal position is what Jesus accomplished for us on the cross, while our living condition is what Jesus requires of us in our response to Him. In our legal position, we stand before God by possessing His righteousness (2 Cor. 5:21). Our legal standing before God is so glorious that it will never be improved upon—not even with the perfection of a resurrected body—because we received Christ’s very own righteousness. Our legal position relates to receiving His righteousness instantly on the day that we are born again.

Our living condition, on the other hand, relates to growing in righteousness progressively as our mind is renewed, causing our behavior and emotions to be transformed by the Holy Spirit in us.

The gospel is the good news about receiving God’s righteousness and can be seen in three tenses:

Justification: our legal position—past tense, focused on our spirit

Sanctification: our living condition—present tense, focused on our soul

Glorification: our eternal exaltation—future tense, focused on our body

One-third of our salvation is complete (the salvation of our spirit), but the other two parts are not yet complete in our experience (the salvation of our soul and body). All believers have received the fullness of grace in their spirit (legal position), and yet they can still live far below it in their daily experience (living condition).

Much misunderstanding about grace can be traced to misunderstanding the distinctions of these truths. Many confuse what Jesus did for us in our legal position with what He requires of us in our response to Him in our living condition.

Jesus’ finished work on the cross makes His grace fully available to us as a gift. However, our regular interaction with the Spirit causes us to experience the transforming power of this grace in our daily life. James wrote about this when he urged believers to walk in a greater measure of grace because God “gives grace to the humble” (James 4:6).

James wrote this to born-again believers, calling them to receive more grace. A believer already has the gift of righteousness and therefore can’t receive “more grace” in his or her legal position. However, each of us can receive “more grace” in our living condition—and this is what James was referring to. We can always experience more of God’s grace to transform and renew our mind and emotions (see Rom. 12:2).

Grace in the Eight Beatitudes

If we hope to experience more of this transforming grace on a daily basis, then we must follow the words of the greatest teacher on grace who ever walked the earth: Jesus. The Sermon on the Mount (Matt. 5-7) is His most comprehensive statement about a believer’s role in cooperating with God’s grace. In this teaching, Jesus defined loving God in context to the eight beatitudes (5:3-10), offering us a rich understanding of how to walk out biblical grace in our daily lives.

One aspect of this is Jesus’ exhortation to us to hunger for more of God’s righteousness (v. 6). Here, Jesus affirmed the need to press into God for a greater release of righteousness in our daily lives—our living condition. Keep in mind that He wasn’t calling us to receive more of the gift of righteousness, since we already fully possess this in our legal position. Our hunger for righteousness doesn’t cause us to deserve grace—nothing can do that—but hunger positions us to receive more of the outworking of righteousness in our character.

Some believers don’t hunger to grow in righteousness in their daily life. Rather, they seek to know how far they can go in sin and how little they need to talk with Jesus to keep their salvation intact.

Imagine a couple in their wedding ceremony who have just completed their vows. While walking down the aisle for the first time as “one,” the man whispers to his new bride, “How far can I go with other women before we get divorced? And how much do I have to talk to you each week?” Adding insult to injury, he then says, “By the way, we just signed a marriage license that legalized our marriage—so now I have legal rights to all that you possess.”

Of course, the new bride would be heartbroken to hear that her husband didn’t love her with all of his heart but was instead establishing their marriage on a faulty foundation—and focusing almost entirely on the bare-minimum “requirements” and legal ramifications involved.

Some teach about grace in a way that parallels the lack of wholeheartedness portrayed in this analogy. It’s a version of grace more concerned with what it takes to “meet the requirements” on paper than to engage in the authentic, loving relationship for which it was originally intended. Sadly, this error is bound to occur whenever people separate the grace message from the first commandment.

How to Receive God’s Grace

Grace was never intended to be abused, but as our current church crisis proves, it can be. God gives us the freedom to choose relationship and obedience to His Word—and thus benefit from the true liberty found in grace. Yet this is also why Paul urged the believers in Corinth “not to receive the grace of God in vain” (2 Cor. 6:1).

The gospel of grace is distorted in two main ways: first, by presenting God’s love as something we can earn; second, by refusing to call people to respond in wholeheartedness to God. The fruit of the biblical grace message is confidence in the gift of God’s love combined with a spirit of obedience. If either of these two elements is missing, then it isn’t the true message. Thus, receiving God’s grace in vain is to receive it in such a way that it doesn’t produce confidence in God’s love nor the resolve to respond wholeheartedly to Jesus’ leadership. Either distortion is disastrous for our spiritual life.

Like Jude in the first century, we must earnestly contend for the truth about grace. The very soul of the youth in our nation hangs in the balance.

The good news, however, is this: The Holy Spirit is highlighting this spiritual crisis and is committed to the recovery of the biblical grace message. We can be confident that He will release His power to establish the first commandment in first place in the church before Jesus returns for His fully prepared Bride (see Rev. 19:7). Let’s come alongside Him, rather than opposing Him, when it comes to receiving, understanding and walking in grace.

Mike Bickle is the director of the International House of Prayer Missions Base of Kansas City, Mo., and author of several books. For more information, visit mikebickle.org or ihopkc.org.

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/38918-mike-bickle-whats-wrong-with-grace

MIKE BICKLES IHOP IS A CULT

Darren,

What really breaks my heart is the young people (18-30) who start out on fire for God and get really caught up in all this stuff. In 1999 I was asked by some friends of mine to go with them to Kansas City and help with the setup of the “internship program” and be on Staff. At that time I was “older” then most of the kids, had been in ministry and was considered an example of a Godly intercessor.

I lasted about 4 months, but I was stranded in Kansas City for 2 and a half years. I lasted 4 months because I asked too many questions. These kids were (still are as far as I know) being told that they were “prayer missionaries”. They were expected to work for the ministry 40 hours a week, pray in IHOP 40 hours a week AND attend Grace Bible college and do all the homework required. They were also told they had to raise their own support and they told they could not work outside the ministry.

I was also present in an orientation meeting when the “newbies” were told that it would be better for them to have no contact with old friends or family as they were being trained in a “new way of thinking” outsiders (exact word) would not understand.

When I questioned these and many other practices, first I the people around me stopped talking to me. A week later I was called into a meeting and told “we are not sure you fit in with us here”. I was then told not to come to the prayer house or talk to the interns. 2 things I continued to do until the day I left Kansas City!!

I was sharing a flat in a complex where almost everyone renting there was part of IHOP. Mz flat mates were the directors of the internship program. The flat was directly across the street from where the prayer house was then.

The people I was sharing a flat with were told to take my keys and throw me out. Fortunately, the lease was in my name and when they tried to do that I contacted the Landlord and called the police. I think they were a little shocked that I did not just bow down. After 2 weeks of wrangling where I was forceably locked in my room, physically threatened, coerced and all 4 of my car tires slashed and my car vandalized the complex manager gave me an flat rent free for 3 months. I found a job and was able to start paying rent the second month.

After I started working I started getting threatening phone calls at home and at work. I had made the mistake of calling my former flat mates about something from work, so they gave my work number all around. The calls were traced back to IHOPs offices at Metro Church and charges of stalking and harrassing phone calls were brought. That stopped the phone calls, but it did not stop some of the leaders from sitting or standing outside my building door and shouting and screaming at me if they saw me. One “worship leader” from IHOP even threw water on me from his balcony 2 floors above in same building.

Now I suppose you wonder why I stayed. Well, first of all I did not have the money to leave. I spent all my money getting there, getting set up, buying a car, etc. The other reason was the kids. Almost every week another poor kid would show up who had spent all their money to get there, on fire for God, wanting to “DO SOMETHING FOR GOD” and the first time they spoke out or asked a question or spoke their mind they were told they did not fit and were thrown out. Since they had cut all ties with home after they got their they did not know what to do. Usually I found them tired, exhausted and fed up sitting in a local coffee shop or McDonalds down the street. There was always the old trick of the “IHOP” leadership” telling flat mates they could just chuck their things out and demand their keys. I was usually the one who told them that was not true and I made lots of enemies at IHOP for telling these kids the truth. A couple of them had no idea what they could do and were sleeping on the streets. There are hard cold realities for those who do not fit in at IHOP. I spent hours counseling these “kids” (usually 18-25) and helping them reconnect with their families and get home.

Since leaving IHOP and ministering in other parts of the world with my husband, I have come across other poor souls who have fallen into the IHOP trap and had to be rescued by friends and family.

I still consider myself a prayer warrior and I have seen God do some amazing things. I do not want to cheapen the real thing by focusing on the false teachings and ideas that are out there, but I think the truth needs to be told.

NOw ask me about the Kansas City (Smithton)revival… ;=)

Blessings,

Ann

 The New Mystics, IHOP, International House Of Prayer: http://bit.ly/wJM3qJ  http://www.scribd.com/doc/57446225

MIKE BICKLE is a LIAR and IHOP FORMERLY KCF ACTUALLY IS A CULT.  http://www.scribd.com/doc/113688423/ErnieGruenReport-KeepSmilingAndSayNothing-ReKansasCity

Smith/Kansas City Revival

 Oh dear so much has been said about the Smith/Kansas City revival. There were whole websites dedicated to its abuse and heresies. So I think I will do it like this.

THINGS I LEARNED FROM THE SMITHTON REVIVAL

1. If you see a good show somewhere else, there is no reason you can not recreate it in your church. Steve Gray said “I went to Brownsville and I can DO that too”.

2. No one is indespensible. It does not matter if its your mother, father, brother, sister, sister-in-law or even your children. If they get in the way of the show, they gotta go.

3. A handpicked audience is always better. Steve and Kathy made sure only the most gullible, agreeable, easily manipulated were in the front for the world to see.

4. If your 2 year old can not stand in the same spot with their hands in the air for 3 to 4 hours of worshiping God then beat them until they learn to submit. This was actually in the “Revival Handbook” until it was turned over to Childrens Protective Services. I saw this first hand in the ladies bathroom where the little demons were brought to be beaten before going back to “worship”. I personally reported 2 parents to child services.

5. Never let people know where the money really goes. this was always true of the Grays. The truth is the money always went to them, not the ministry because THEY WERE THE MINISTRY. that is why they could leave Smithton, sell the building, run away and never look back (see Smithton Revival: Revival’s Relocation Pits Pastor Against Alienated Followers http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/october1/14.18.html)

6. If they wont give you money, dont give them anything either. We were in a tent for 2 years. In the winter in the freezing cold and in the summer in the blazing heat. Steve figured that it would help people give more to build a building quicker. When they did build a building it was much different then what was promised and much less was spent then what was actually raised for the building.

7. Make promises you know you will not keep. This was always happening. If people had a problem, a promise was made to fix it on the spot, but it never happened. You know of course that you can not really questions “Gods Elect” so they could never be called liars.

Oh my there is so much I learned at World Revival Church. This should do for a start 🙂

Ann

IT’S MY OPINION

THE PROBLEM IS BOTH HYPER-GRACE PREACHERS AND THIRD WAVE PREACHERS HAVE NO INTEGRITY AND ARE OFF THE WALL. THEY ARE NOT FULL OF FAITH, POWER AND THE HOLY SPIRIT BUT ARE FULL OF THEMSELVES!

While it true some believers don’t hunger to grow in righteousness in their daily life. Rather, they seek to know how far they can go in sin and how little they need to talk with Jesus to keep their salvation intact. It is also true that these so called believers are not really Christians but deceived ones otherwise the would live and walk in the Spirit and not in the flesh and operate in all the gifts of the Spirit.

Unfortunately it’s a sad fact that most Christian leaders don’t operate in all the gifts of the Spirit and are not full of faith, power and the Holy Spirit like Stephen the layman was:

Acts 6:
5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas, a proselyte from Antioch,

8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people

NATIONAL AWAKENING IS A JOKE http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

MEN OF INTEGRITY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-12p

Pastor Ron Carpenter IS OFF THE WALL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xa

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob

JOSEPH PRINCE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wa

Beth Moore – False Teacher http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wj

LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/

Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU

Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid

RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970

THE ARROGANT  TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp

PROTECTION FROM DECEPTION by Derek Prince

Navigating Through The Minefield Of Signs And Wonders

http://www.enterhisrest.org/charismata/protect_deception.pdf

SUPERNATURAL SID ROTH  http://www.christianmediaresearch.com/sidroth.html

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

UN-NAMED SCOUNDRELS

Four Fatal Flaws That Ruin Ministries

6:00AM EDT 9/26/2013    J. LEE GRADY

I spend a lot of time investing in young leaders—and I constantly urge them to learn from the mistakes we made in the previous move of God. I appreciate the positive things the Holy Spirit did during the charismatic movement, but we made a mess because we didn’t lead with integrity.

The apostle Paul gave us a crash course in leadership in his second letter to the Corinthians. While studying that epistle recently, I identified four of the biggest mistakes we made during the charismatic revival. I pray we’ve learned our lesson so we can avoid these flaws in the next season.

1. Charlatanism. We charismatics lost our credibility during the past 30 years because certain greedy preachers manipulated their audiences to pad their own pockets. Just as a little leaven spreads to the whole lump of dough, the charlatans ruined it for all of us.

The apostle Paul told the Corinthians, “For we are not like many, peddling the Word of God” (2 Cor. 2:17, NASB). The Greek word for peddling, kapeleuo, means “to make money by selling; to corrupt; to get gain by teaching divine truth.” How many well-known charismatic preachers started out well but ended up as pitiful peddlers, begging for dollars to pay for luxury cars and mansions they felt they needed to prove their importance? (And now some of these guys have their own reality show, The Preachers of L.A., which airs in October and features Noel Jones and Clarence McClendon.)

 2. Entitlement. Paul continually reminded the Corinthians that he was a servant: “For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bond-servants for Jesus’ sake” (2 Cor. 4:5). Servanthood is the most fundamental requirement for any leader. Yet in our movement, we celebrated the opposite attitude by allowing leaders with out-of-control egos to demand special treatment.

I know of one conference speaker who routinely sends a 23-page list of requirements to churches that want her to speak! In the past, some charismatic preachers have demanded shopping money (in addition to their honorariums) and luxury accommodations; others insist they can’t travel without their “armor bearer”—basically a minion who carries a preacher’s briefcase, handkerchief and water bottle to make him look important.

News flash! Paul did not have an armor bearer, and he would have rebuked any minister who insists on acting like a fat cat.

3. Arrogance. The apostle Paul modeled teamwork. When he went to Corinth, Thessalonica or Crete, it was not The Paul Show. He traveled with Luke, Silas, Timothy and many others. He told the Corinthians, “As for Titus, he is my partner and fellow worker among you” (2 Cor. 8:23)—and Paul exhorted the church to view Titus with the same respect they showed him.

Yet in our movement, we put men on pedestals and under spotlights. We created a culture of preacher worship. Leaders began using titles. Then came the limousines and private jets. Some high-profile speakers went so far as to promote the use of bodyguards. And I know of at least one preacher who demanded that a church fly special beef to his hotel so he could have the steak he required. Pride turns men of God into monsters.

 4. Professionalism. Somebody got the bright idea a few years ago that churches should be managed like businesses. So pastors became CEOs, and ministry was put on an assembly line. Congregations became franchises competing with each other to see who could offer the coolest music, the hippest sermons and the best lobby coffee bar. But a funny thing happened on the way to the megachurch: We lost the relational touch.

I’m not against big churches, cool music or coffee bars. But my fear is that leaders today might assume they can buy success by copying the style of this month’s most popular rock-star preacher. I don’t care if you have strobe lights, fog machines, killer musicians and a home-run sermon every week. If people don’t see true brokenness in the pulpit and experience real pastoral care, they will never grow into disciples. Shallow, professional leaders produce shallow Christianity.

 Leaders must be real. Our ministry must flow out of passionate love for God and genuine love for people. The apostle Paul never wore a mask. He was touchable and affectionate. He never went through the motions. He was broken. He knew he was nothing apart from Jesus. He told the Corinthians, “Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me” (2 Cor. 12:9).

Paul told the Corinthians he was careful not to offend in any area “so that the ministry will not be discredited” (2 Cor. 6:3). I wish we had been that careful to guard what God gave us in the charismatic revival. Our flaws have grieved the Holy Spirit. Let’s trade in charlatanism for financial integrity; entitlement for servanthood; the celebrity syndrome for teamwork; and professionalism for touchable authenticity. Let’s become leaders who act like Jesus.

J. Lee Grady is the former editor of Charisma and the director of the Mordecai Project (themordecaiproject.org). You can follow him on Twitter at @leegrady. He is the author of The Holy Spirit Is Not for Sale and other books.

http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/41136-four-fatal-flaws-that-ruin-ministries

WHY IS IT THE WOF OR PROSPERITY PREACHERS DON’T TALK ABOUT THE JUDGMENT OF GOD IN THE CURRENT TIME OF LIFE?

For we know Him Who said, Vengeance is Mine [retribution and the meting out of full justice rest with Me]; I will repay [I will exact the compensation], says the Lord. And again, The Lord will judge and determine and solve and settle the cause and the cases of His people. It is a fearful (formidable and terrible) thing to incur the divine penalties and be cast into the hands of the living God! – Hebrews 10:30-31 AMP

1 CORINTHIANS 5:9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
10 Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
11 But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner — not even to eat with such a person.
12 For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside?
13 But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.”

Luke 18: 1 Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart,
2 saying: “There was in a certain city a judge who did not fear God nor regard man.
3 Now there was a widow in that city; and she came to him, saying, ‘Get justice for me from my adversary.’
4 And he would not for a while; but afterward he said within himself, ‘Though I do not fear God nor regard man,
5 yet because this widow troubles me I will avenge her, lest by her continual coming she weary me.’ ”
6 Then the Lord said, “Hear what the unjust judge said.
7 And shall God not avenge His own elect who cry out day and night to Him, though He bears long with them?
8 I tell you that He will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He really find faith on the earth?”

HOLY SPIRIT GIFTS http://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/gifts.pdf

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECERhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/

Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU

Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid

RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970

THE ARROGANT  TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp   

 

WALTER KAMBULOW BLOGS 

VICTORY MINISTRIES http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-r

https://walthope.wordpress.com/ 

We Would Not Be Judged?

We Would Not Be Judged?

For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world. 1 Corinthians 11:30-32

The word of God tells us that many of God’s people are weak and sick amongst us and many have died because they have not judged themselves, so God judged and chastened them? Jesus warned all men of the consequences of improper actions and judgments that would affect them:

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ “But I say to you that whoever. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. “Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. “Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny. Matthew 5:21-26

Yes, being angry with a brother without cause us to be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. We have to judge ourselves in these matters or God will judge us if we don’t. Therefore people need to repent, make amends and even restitution or they will pay for their foolishness even in the current time of life because Jesus Christ doesn’t lie though others do.

Now the area of judgment is very confusing because there are those in the body of Christ who believe we are not to judge anybody under any circumstances because Jesus told us:

“Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. “Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. “Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.” Luke 6:36-38

Pastor Evangelist Rodney Howard Browne was very merciful to Pastor Karl Strader who robbed his ministry. He did good for him and bought him a Lincoln Towncar but with the money collected from the dumb sheep, not his own. While another prominent national TV Evangelist and pastor Benny Hinn stated:

‘You cannot win attacking the servants of the Lord, no matter who they are or what they’ve done …if the anointing ever comes upon a man, don’t touch that man, even if he turns away from God, and serves the devil, Don’t touch him. You are in deep, serious danger.”

Jesus didn’t teach that His people were not to judge under any circumstances. Rather He told the religious Pharisaical hypocrites who were judging him constantly:

“Judge not, that you be not judged. “For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. “And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? “Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? “Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. Matthew 7:1-6

Jesus told the hypocrites First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. Yes, too many evangelists and pastors to day, who are afraid of being judged, use Bible threats such as “don’t touch God’s anointed” or “You are blaspheming the Holy Spirit” in an effort to silence critics who expose their false gospels and un-Scriptural teachings. They claim the critics are speaking against a ‘Man of God’. This bears a striking resemblance to the situation in 1 Samuel where Saul, whose position was threatened, pursued the man who was innocent. Moreover when David became king he accepted rebuke and correction from Nathan the prophet. He did not say, “don’t touch God’s anointed” to protect himself.

One of the most common errors found in Christianity today is that particular persons, usually pastors or evangelists, are somehow more “anointed” than the average Christian. This teaching often coincides with a veiled threat in the form of “touch not mine [the Lord’s] anointed,” (I Ch. 16:22, Ps. 105:15).

The term “anointing” means to “authorize, or set apart, a person for a particular work or service,” (Is.61:1). The New Testament is absolutely clear on whom the anointing rests – ALL of Christ’s disciples, who are God’s very own, set apart and commissioned for service (2 Cor. 1:21). The New Testament does not support the notion of a “greater” anointing based on “position” and such teaching has its origin in a fundamental misunderstanding of the relationship between the Old and New Testaments.

Proponents of this error fail to use careful exegesis to discern the difference between the Old Testament call of a “prophet,” where the anointing rested on one man (Is. 61:1, I Sam. 26:9,11, 2 Sam. 22:51, 2 Chr. 6:42), and the New Testament call of a “priesthood of believers” (I Pet. 2:5,9). Certainly there are diversities of gifts, but the Spirit [or anointing] remains the same (I Cor. 12). Oral Roberts, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, and many others have long terrorized God’s people with “touch not mine anointed” nonsense if anyone dared question them or their teaching. Anyone who has a gift (all have gifts, 1 Cor. 12:7-11), has a ministry, and anyone who has a ministry, has authority and is anointed.

It is a sad situation in many churches today that “laity” are content to sit on a pew week after week and assume the opinions of professional clergymen are to be the final authority. They find comfort in this approach because it is safe. Preachers are content to keep it this way because it secures their position in the church.

How many times have believers been subjected to mishandled scripture with an implicit or explicit “touch not God’s anointed” if any dared to question? This is in contrast to the Biblical admonition to “try the spirits”, (1 John 4:1). Fear is not of God and teaching which incorporates psychological intimidation is corrupt and deceptive. One of the easiest ways to determine what “spirit” motivates a person “in authority” is to question them. A godly man or woman will never be offended or become indignant if someone dares to question them and compare what is said with the Word of God. However, if one is motivated by an “authoritarian” spirit of conceit or arrogance, the questioner will soon know it. Peter warned the elders (pastors and spiritual guides of the church) not to be domineering [arrogant, dictatorial, overbearing] over the flock of God, but to be patterns and models of Christian living (I Pet. 5:3, AMPL.)

Many prominent pastors and evangelists today make the claim that because “souls” are being saved and “healings” take place in their meetings, that this somehow validates their ministry. While these things may be well and good, they are no indication of “divine” sanction. A.A. Allen was a drunkard, Jimmy Swaggart a whoremonger, Jim Bakker a thief, Larry Lea a prevaricator, and Robert Tilton a charlatan – yet ALL of these saw thousands saved and miracles take place in their meetings. Because one is blessed with “prosperity” and has a “following” of thousands, doesn’t mean a darn thing when it comes to integrity and godly sanction, for “he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust,” (Matt. 5:45).

Twenty-six years ago I experienced the greatest miracle of my life – salvation and the baptism of the Holy Spirit. This experience came in a Pentecostal “holiness” church where, unbeknown to me at the time, the pastor was committing adultery, one of the deacons (or “pillars” of the church as they were called) visited a prostitute on a regular basis, another deacon kept a large supply of porno magazines in his home, and still another was a philanderer. This taught me that just because God moves in a particular setting, it is no indication that those who bear the message are “godly.” [i]

Apostle Paul, who judged and wrote about things that were going on in many churches, said:

But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one. 1 Corinthians 2:15

I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner-not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

How can you put away from yourselves the evil person if you don’t judge him first? You cannot. There must be proper judgment in the house of God for God’s word is unchanging:

Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 1 Corinthians 14:29

I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fable. 2 Timothy 4:1-4

According to Apostle Paul, judging and rebuking is part of preaching and duties of being an evangelist. You cannot rebuke a person if you have not judged him first? And Apostle Paul judged and rebuked many people clearly telling us:

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians 5:19-21

[i] TOUCH NOT MINE ANOINTED? By John R. Anderson – January 1997

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKEShttp://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob
RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPShttp://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf
How Pastors Get Rich http://tinyurl.com/3azvjzy
THE TRUTH ABOUT FUNDRAISING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ii
Counterfeits in the the Third Wave Church http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-E2
NATIONAL AWAKENING IS A JOKE http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU
THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L
THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr
PAT FRANCIS IS A PHONY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-93
SEED FAITH  Marilyn Hickey: Fairy Godmother of the Word-faith Movement   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8X
LIFE STYLES OF TELE EVANGELISTS http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-evangelist_lifestyles.html#.UV7X8_m8uUM
TBN’S SPEAKERS INCLUDING PAUL CROUCH ARE PHONIES AND FALSE
 http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-iB
http://www.truthandgrace.com/tbn.htm
RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812
THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns
Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24
BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
BILL JOHNSON’S FRIEND TODD BENTLEY IS A DEMON FROM HELL http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/ 
BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDREL http://www.scribd.com/doc/17673980 
Government Intervention Needed to Curb Religious Financial Fraud  http://bit.ly/hwNEay     http://tinyurl.com/27z7e3w
An Overview of Religious Financial Fraud http://www.scribd.com/doc/24336837
APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/   
Benny Hinn’s brother Sam Hinn steps aside as Sanford pastor http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-benny-hinn-brother-steps-down-20130120,0,4677056.story          
Benny Hinn’s brother Sam Hinn accused of extramarital affair http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-benny-hinn-brother-affair-20130121,0,4344906.story
The Ghostwriter of the Prosperity Gospel? http://iamthetruthcenter.blogspot.ca/2012/03/ghostwriter-of-prosperity-gospel.html
In some parts of Christendom there are ‘Strange Manifestations’ that are being witnessed around the world today, in particular, what we are seeing today known as the ‘Lakeland Revival’ or ‘Florida Healing Outpouring’ . These manifestation, (Shaking, Jerking, convulsing/epileptic like movements, drunkenness, gold dust, gems, feathers to name just a few!) similarly witness also in previous ‘outpourings’ such as the ‘Toronto Blessing/Outpouring’, are being embraced as a move of God (or the new thing that God is doing). Not only are these disturbing but are also being accompanied by numerous unscriptural teachings and extra biblical revelations but their leaders are devoid of integrity and support adultery, divorce, lying and stealing!
America’s Counterfeit Holy Spirit and Its Name http://www.jonasclark.com/spiritual-warfare-prayer/counterfeit-holyspirit-yoga-kundalini-demons.html
APOSTASY http://holyforchrist777.blogspot.ca/2012/01/watchman-warning-apostasy-great-falling.html
IF THE LAW OF SOWING AND REAPING WAS TRUE AS BENNY HINN PROCLAIMS IT THEN HE WOULD BE GIVING US MONEY INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR MONEY?
http://www.bennyhinn.org/emailletters/9184/god-wants-you-to-create-your-financial-future
TO BE A GOOD FALSE PROPHET YOU MUST TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND THEN ASK FOR SEED FAITH MONEY EVEN IF JESUS SAID FREELY RECEIVED FREELY GIVE?
http://www.bennyhinn.org/emailletters/9154/seven-prophetic-promises
DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/main_miracles.html
Benny and Suzanne Hinn   http://goo.gl/7gael
Suzanne Hinn – Holy Ghost Enema I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ALL NEED  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhw_5ye8Qo
http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2012/06/12/benny-hin/
Christian protection racket http://tinyurl.com/28rwjkk
Wealth Transfer Theology Is Demonic http://www.scribd.com/doc/29618734
Video: TBN Co-Founder Paul Crouch Suggests God Will Kill People for TBN http://bit.ly/LTkAgl
Randy & Paula White Are Parasites Pimps & Prostitutes   http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
DECEIVED AND STOLE MONEY THROUGH THE CONCEPT OF SEED FAITH  http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294/
KARL STRADER’S MASSIVE CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH IS AN ALBATROSS AND PASTOR KARL STRADER IS HISTORY http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/
Exposing the Counterfeit in the Emergent Church http://wp.me/p2PVVX-1F
MIKE BICKLE is a LIAR and IHOP FORMERLY KCF ACTUALLY IS A CULT.  http://www.scribd.com/doc/113688423/ErnieGruenReport-KeepSmilingAndSayNothing-ReKansasCity
PAT KING  http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/
Raping Bethany Deaton Was a ‘Religious Experience’ | Gather http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981762754
When one mentions the movement the ”NAR”, what may come to mind is the New Apostolic Reformation (C.Peter Wagner’s cult), But, when one explores their WHACK (talk about getting ”WHACKED”) theology, NAR really just stands for ~ New Age Religion!!! Bill Johnson, Mike Bickel, Rick Joyner, Bob Jones, Patricia King, Heidi &Roland Baker, Che Ahn, Joshua Mills, Jason Westerfield, Todd & Jessa-”BEL” Bentley, John Crowder, Benjamin Dunn, Stacey Campbell, Kris Vallotton, Matthew Ford, Kevin Dedmond, and Cindy Jacobs just to name a few, are ALL generals for the NAR…they are New Age Renegades representing a New Age Religion…STAY FAR AWAY FROM THE ENEMY’S CAMP!!!! AVOID THE NAR!!!!! “New Apostolic Reformation Is Deceptive” http://www.scribd.com/doc/16611959
CHUCK D. PIERCE IS AN ILLITERATE FALSE THIRD WAVE PROPHET ON THE WAY TO HELL http://tl.gd/l3g949
Dominionism and the NAR http://wp.me/p2PVVX-1r
The Pathetic Prophetic Movement http://www.christianresearchservice.com/The_Prophetic_Movement.htm
Bentley Joyner Johnson “divorce from reality”
http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/2009/04/divorced-from-reality.html
Benny Hinn Speaks Out Against the Florida Revival
http://www.christianresearchservice.com/BHinn39.htm
VIDEOS OF CRAZY DANCING AND BEING DRUNK IN A DEMONIC THIRD WAVE CHURCH WHICH SUPPORTED TODD BENTLEY
https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=10151265231713819
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=16158711649&set=vb.23946484176&type=3&permPage=1
MP calls for ban on tattooed preacher who ‘cures’ cancer by kicking people in the face http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2183860/Todd-Bentley-MP-calls-ban-tattooed-preacher-cures-cancer-kicking-people-face.html#ixzz22m0jPRsG
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9
Mitt Romney A Mormon stood with Ann when she was battling cancer while Todd Bentley A Pentecostal left his cancer stricken wife and changed her for a younger model? http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/
HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/
THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726
An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm
TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu
 

BE HOLY

BE HOLY

1 Peter 1:15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct,
16 because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”

Revelation 22:11 He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.”

TO BE HOLY IS MORE THAN A STATE OF MIND OR AN ATTITUDE OF FAITH. TO BE HOLY IS TO NOT PRACTICE OR DEMONSTRATE THE WORKS OF THE FLESH

GALATIANS 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

HOLINESS DOESN’T COME JUST BY WISHFUL THINKING OR A MAGICAL PRAYER. YOU BY YOUR CHOICES AND ACTIONS PLAY AN INTEGRAL PART IN IT

2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

Ephesians 4:24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

HOLINESS DOESN’T COME FROM JOSEPH PRINCE TEACHINGS OF GRACE

Prince teaches a so-called gospel devoid of Biblical repentance and based on mental assent, as he implies his heretical once saved always saved belief. Just pray a little prayer and you’re forever saved while in your sins. He brushes off the vital necessity of turning away from wickedness by misapplying the meaning of repentance and therefore doesn’t teach saving faith and its accompanying crucifying the flesh (Gal. 5:24). Joseph Prince stated:
Repentance just means changing your mind. When John the Baptist said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” he was essentially saying, “Change your mind, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” (p. 233)

Permanent Righteousness Without Doing What Is Right
Joseph Prince teaches the typical eternal security imputed righteous message as his secret, which is glaringly lethal:
My friend, righteousness is a gift because of what Jesus has accomplished on the cross for you. All your sins – past, present and future – have been washed clean by His precious blood. You are completely forgiven and from the moment you received Jesus into your life, you will never be held liable for your sins ever again. You have been made as righteous as Jesus…. (pp. 28, 29)
He sees you clothed with Jesus’ righteousness. So begin to see yourself clothed in Jesus’ righteousness. (p. 29)
The more you realize that you are righteous, the more victory you will experience over sin! Wake up every morning and give thanks that you are the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ. (p. 31)
Is Jesus righteous before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He accepted before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He well-pleasing before God? Yes! Then so are you. (p. 58)
God cannot see your sins when they are covered by the blood. (p. 209)

Don’t uncover your sins or the sins of others. They have been completely forgiven by the blood of Jesus (p. 211).
When God looks at you, all He sees is the blood of Jesus that makes you completely righteous. (p. 251)

There is no argument that Jesus is our righteousness (Rom. 1:17; 1 Cor. 1:30; Phil. 3:9; etc.), but that righteous standing before God can change and has for some:
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (2 Pet 2:20-22)

HOLY SPIRIT GIFTS http://www.freeworldfilmworks.com/gifts.pdf
JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob
RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
Manasseh Jordan – Never Been Wrong Yet?  How About   Prophesies network TV for Paula White and Lakeland property is good soil?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81rDQCpTKU
Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/
THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0
RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812
APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/
Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU
Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid
RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/
http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970
THE ARROGANT  TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017
BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv
ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294
SEEKING JUSTICE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Dp
Coming Wars and Worldwide Catastrophes http://blog.petertan.net/?p=595
 
WALTER KAMBULOW BLOGS
VICTORY MINISTRIES http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-r
https://walthope.wordpress.com/  
http://walthope3.blogspot.ca
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100327997934214585965/posts
http://plus.topsy.com/googleplus/100302133262254344211
FACEBOOK  WALT KAM
Gordon Williams  http://gordwilliams.com/
YOU MUST BELIEVE GOD http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Fc
GOT JESUS? http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-rW
There is no problem that Jesus cannot solve and no sickness that Jesus cannot heal but it doesn’t matter how much you sing and dance and praise the Lord, if you are in rebellion or have not dealt with unconfessed sin in your life, God will not move on your behalf!
MINISTERING GOD AND HIS GIFTS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-GZ
Gods Will Is Healing http://goo.gl/bSrmc   http://www.scribd.com/doc/12404063/
God Hears And Answers Prayers http://goo.gl/l62Q0 http://www.scribd.com/doc/12779089/
The Effective, Fervent Prayer http://goo.gl/NRZMa  http://www.scribd.com/doc/19706617
The All Sufficient Christ http://goo.gl/4QgB4

Garbage In, Garbage Out

Garbage In, Garbage Out

Then the angel who talked with me answered and said to me, “Do you not know what these are?” And I said, “No, my lord.” So he answered and said to me: “This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,’ Says the LORD of hosts. ‘Who are you, O great mountain? Before Zerubbabel you shall become a plain! And he shall bring forth the capstone With shouts of “Grace, grace to it!” ‘ ” Zechariah 4:5-6

Furthermore, when I came to Troas to preach Christ’s gospel, and a door was opened to me by the Lord, I had no rest in my spirit, because I did not find Titus my brother; but taking my leave of them, I departed for Macedonia. Now thanks be to God who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and through us diffuses the fragrance of His knowledge in every place. 2 Corinthians 2:12-14

Most people know the expression “Garbage in, garbage out” or “You are what you eat.” As a matter of fact many of us are destroying our bodies by consuming food that is not good for us and then we have to run around looking to be healed and delivered by doctors or God! Well we not only live in a body that is made of flesh but we also have a spirit and a soul. And what we allow to come into our spirit and soul affects us greatly. That is why the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life which is not of the Father but is of the world are very dangerous and harmful because they pervert and corrupt us and ultimately destroy us. We need to be filled with the fullness of God and be under the constant control of the Holy Spirit and by the Spirit put to death the deeds of the body so that we might live. God’s word is unchanging:

Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience, in which you yourselves once walked when you lived in them. But now you yourselves are to put off all these: anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy language out of your mouth. Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds, and have put on the new man who is renewed in knowledge according to the image of Him who created him, where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcised nor uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave nor free, but Christ is all and in all. Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, put on tender mercies, kindness, humility, meekness, longsuffering; bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if anyone has a complaint against another; even as Christ forgave you, so you also must do. But above all these things put on love, which is the bond of perfection. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which also you were called in one body; and be thankful. Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. Colossians 3:5:16

For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Galatians 5:17-25

Yes, we suffer in our body in the current time of life because of the works of the flesh including adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries,. We open the doors to demonic spirits that cause us sickness and pain. And if we accept them directly or indirectly including spirits of infirmities, we will have trouble sickness and diseases in our bodies.

But we don’t have to accept any of these things because of what Jesus did on Calvary and by His stripes we are healed. So we can rebuke all sickness, diseases and oppressive spirits from our bodies and tell them to go to hell where they belong in Jesus name. Through the avenue of bitterness, unforgiveness, we open the door for demons to enter into our bodies and lives and suffer as a result. God’s word is unchanging:

“For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ “But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire. “Therefore if you bring your gift to the altar, and there remember that your brother has something against you, “leave your gift there before the altar, and go your way. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. “Agree with your adversary quickly, while you are on the way with him, lest your adversary deliver you to the judge, the judge hand you over to the officer, and you be thrown into prison. “Assuredly, I say to you, you will by no means get out of there till you have paid the last penny. Matthew 5:20-26

When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying: He Himself took our infirmities And bore our sicknesses.” Matthew 8:16-17

But some Christians refuse to accept that afflictions and sickness are oppressions of the devil and they can be healed off them. Yes, there are those Christians who say that only Jesus Christ is important and nothing else and they are suffering for Jesus sake, His suffering. Even though by Jesus stripes they were healed and He Himself took our infirmities and bore our sicknesses. They literally don’t fellowship with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit. They don’t know and experience the love of the Father or the comfort of the Holy Spirit. Their faith is composed on solely knowledge of the written Word of God. They forgot that the new birth is not known solely by knowledge but solely by experience. Yes, through the avenue of faith, they believed on Jesus, called on His name and were saved and He gave them an experience call the new birth or being born again. They didn’t go on to being baptized by Jesus Christ, the Baptizer in the Holy Spirit with fire and tongues of fire, because it’s an emotional experience which doesn’t make sense to their carnal mind. But being born again is an emotional in body experience and so is the Baptism of the Spirit and operating in the gifts of the Spirit and is not based solely on intellect!

Then there are others who have experienced the Baptism of the Spirit and only relate to the Holy Spirit solely on the basis of power, gifts, shaking, electricity, someone falling down under the power. While others relate to the Holy Spirit in the context of the work He does for us, or the times He gives us a word of wisdom, knowledge or prophecy, we grieve Him. But the Holy Spirit is a person who wants to be loved, accepted and fellowship with us as a unique person just like each one of us wants to do as a unique person and not just some creature or entity. And God is interested in us not only having the gifts of the Spirit but demonstrating the fruit of the Spirit. God’s word is unchanging:

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing. 1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Understanding the Person of the Holy Spirit, having an encounter with Him, worshipping, respecting, embracing the Holy Spirit and loving Him in His function are the keys that will bring His power and anointing on our lives. We need to have on going visitations and relationships with the Holy Spirit. God’s word is unchanging:

Then the churches throughout all Judea, Galilee, and Samaria had peace and were edified. And walking in the fear of the Lord and in the comfort of the Holy Spirit, they were multiplied. Acts 9:31

Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. 1 Corinthians 10:20

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave you. Ephesians 4:30-32

Yes, when we are full of God, the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, it will come out of us including love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control and not uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy. As God’s word is unchanging:

“A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. Luke 6:45

He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.’ ” And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace. For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. John 1:11-17

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen. 2 Corinthians 13:14

If we have an intimate bond and relationship with the Holy Spirit we will be able to know and do many things that are humanly impossible because it’s what God does through us that matters and not we do in the flesh. We will be surrounded by God’s presence and glory and people will know and experience not only that something is different about us but God Himself. That is why the bible records about healing and Peter’s shadow:

And believers were increasingly added to the Lord, multitudes of both men and women, so that they brought the sick out into the streets and laid them on beds and couches, that at least the shadow of Peter passing by might fall on some of them. Also a multitude gathered from the surrounding cities to Jerusalem, bringing sick people and those who were tormented by unclean spirits, and they were all healed. Acts 5:14-16

Yes, we must honor and give proper place in our lives to our Wonderful Counselor, the Spirit of Truth and be totally dependent upon Him for everything including guiding us into all truth and delivering us from lies of men and demon! We must consciously acknowledge His presence in everything that we would do and ask Him to possess us and direct us so that we will walk Him in all things. Then we will know the blessing of partnership with the Holy Spirit as we bring the saving, healing, and delivering power of Jesus to the world. We need to present ourselves, all of us to the Holy Spirit and line ourselves up with Him. We have to keep asking Him to help us; we can’t accomplish the purposes of God on our own, apart from His guidance. God’s word is unchanging:

“If you love Me, keep My commandments. “And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever- “the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you. John 14:15-17

“Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. “And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: “of sin, because they do not believe in Me; “of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; “of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged. “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. “He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. “All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you. John 16:7-15

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Pastor John Charles Hagee  the antichrist http://tinyurl.com/k3p4zrv
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SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS

Sam Hinn, brother of Benny Hinn, returns to ministry too soon, pastor says

August 12, 2013|By Jeff Kunerth, Orlando Sentinel

Sam Hinn may have returned to the ministry, but he brings with him some of the issues that forced his resignation after admitting an affair with a church member, said the pastor who first counseled Hinn.

Ron Johnson, pastor of One Church in Longwood, said Monday that Hinn walked out on a two-year restoration process after three months — leaving many of his problems unresolved. Johnson has counseled more than 20 ministers in crisis.

“In my mind, oftentimes these things are rooted in a narcissistic personality, and these things need to be addressed,” said Johnson, who was asked by leaders of The Gathering Place Worship Center to work with Hinn on his restoration.

Hinn was ordained again Sunday by a group of ministers seven months after he left his Sanford church following his admission about having a four-year affair.

“I am completely against it. In my mind, he has not fulfilled the requirements necessary for a man to step back into church leadership,” Johnson said.

Hinn is expected to take a teaching position with Tabernacle Bible College Seminary in Tampa. Seminary founder Archbishop Lonnie Langston was one of the ministers who performed the re-ordination.

Hinn, the younger brother of televangelist Benny Hinn, could not be contacted. Langston did not respond to a request for comment.

Johnson said Hinn, then a “broken man,” initially agreed to a restoration process that included staying away from ministry for a year, meeting with a clinical psychologist and keeping a journal.

“It’s a lengthy process worked out with systematic measurements that requires them [pastors] to be accountable to prove they have truly embraced a changed lifestyle,” Johnson said.

Hinn left the counseling program after trying to renegotiate the terms, Johnson said.

His quick return to the ministry came as no shock to the church member with whom he had an affair.

“I fully expected him to return to ministry. The time is no surprise to me,” Chris Wonder wrote in an email to the Orlando Sentinel.

Wonder said she began counseling shortly after Hinn’s resignation Jan. 20 and completed it May 31.

“The counseling opened my eyes to a lot & I’m very grateful to have gone through & completed it,” she wrote. “I would never allow this to happen in my life again as it broke Gods heart, the church & so many people.”

Hinn is not returning to The Gathering Place, which has a new minister, Johnson said.

“He could return to the pulpit,” Johnson said, “but my experience is men whose restoration is not deemed credible have seriously undermined their ministry and limited their opportunities.”

Hi Walter:

Like brother, like brother:  money and sex and sinful and jealousy of his brother’s  power which all go hand in hand.  This kind of public rapid fire restoration is very questionable.  Another fallen TV evangelist sternly proclaimed that any pastor or evangelist who sinned should have to receive counselling and direction for at least two years.  But, when he fell, he refused to be counselled or take a leave of absence.  Proof of repentance is required or else it is just a matter of being sorry for being caught.  The proof of repentance was necessary.  Such was the case with Saul who proven to be faithful after a teaching period of  3 years in Arabia he went to Jerusalem to consult with Peter who was not there and saw James.  Then it took Barnabas to introduce Paul to the apostles to prove that Paul was being faithful and preaching the Gospel and could be accepted (Acts 9: 26 – 28).  Benny went back to doing what he was always doing in terms of “greed” and wasting money and doing his performances.  The life-style proves that “greed” has its own reward and that is go back into  a lifestyle similar to the Scribes and Pharisees who paid their tithes but “neglected justice and mercy  and love of God” (Matt. 23: 23) and “neglected justice and love of God” (Lk. 11: 42).  Their wasted of money will condemn them before God (Jas. 5: 1 – 5).  It appears that Charisma loves (philos ) but not (agape) one brother over the other or they would have condemned both.  This happens when anybody refuses to listen to the Barabases that Jesus sends to them today.

Evangelist/Pastor Gordon Williams  http://gordwilliams.com/

WHY IS CHARISMA EXPOSING SAM HINN NOW WHEN MANY KNEW THAT SAM WAS AN ADULTERER FOR YEARS? WHAT HAPPENED WITH STRANG’S  FRIENDSHIP WITH BENNY HINN OR PAUL CROUCH? DOES STRANG HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE TO EXPOSE SOME OF THE MANY CORRUPTION AND SCOUNDRELS  IN CHARISMATIC CIRCLES

Was Money at the Root of Sam Hinn’s Rapid-Fire Restoration?

12:30PM EDT 8/13/2013    Jennifer LeClaire

                                          Sam Hinn (center) and his wife, Erika (left), at his restoration ceremony. (Domenik Jost/Facebook)

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After a four-year affair and an eight-month restoration process, Sam Hinn, the brother of evangelist Benny Hinn, was re-ordained into the ministry on Sunday night at Bishop Mark Chironna’s Church on the Living Edge.

Although there have been other controversial restorations in the past—Jimmy Swaggart, Paul Cain and Todd Bentley are a few that come to mind—Hinn’s re-ordination is causing many in the body of Christ to take a closer look at what’s going on behind the scenes.

• Why the rush back to ministry after a four-year affair?

• Is this a symptom of the hypergrace movement?

• Did money have something to do with it?

“I have to confess that when I heard about the plans to re-ordain Sam, I was upset. I told one of my ministry colleagues, ‘This is a joke and makes a mockery out of everything I hold dear and have spent my life proclaiming and upholding,’” wrote Pastor Ron Johnson, who was charged with overseeing Hinn’s restoration process.

“I outlined a two-year plan of restoration and walked through the initial stages with him. But after three months, Sam wanted to renegotiate the terms. When I wouldn’t agree to that, he withdrew from my covering and has since found a group of men willing to endorse his leadership in a more expeditious manner.”

So what’s going on here?

Clearly, there’s a strong disagreement among well-known leaders in the body of Christ over whether this man should have been released back into public ministry so quickly. In an age of the hypergrace movement—which is full of dangerous errors, such as denying the need for true repentance—re-ordaining a man who admitted to a four-year affair after less than a year smacks of grace wrongly applied. Grace (and forgiveness) is one thing. Restoring trust is another.

Noteworthy is the dichotomy of responses to Hinn’s restoration among lay believers and clergy alike. Some believe it was too soon. Others pull the legalistic card on anyone who suggests it was too soon. Still others point to money motivations. Let’s look at some of the Facebook responses to Johnson’s article:

“Look how the ‘Christian population’ treated Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker. Yes, they did sin. Do you see them on TBN? Daystar? You will see Sam Hinn. It is disgusting. This is the reason so many good and decent Christians have stopped going to church,” Verla Toney wrote.

“Where in the Bible is this 2 year to restore thing? That’s an AG thing. Six weeks after Peter had a moral failure, he was having the first gospel crusade in history,” commented Peter A Vandever.

Beth Rank said, “Sam has shown by his actions that he is still in rebellion and not ready for ministry. I think the author has rightly discerned the situation and has done all that he could to help Sam. The men who have re-ordained Sam have done him a great disservice and will have to answer to a holy God because of it. These things are very, very serious … see 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1:5-11.”

“Who are we to judge? Leave that to God. He that is without sin cast the first stone? God is merciful,” noted Janis J Shepherd Harewood.

“When a minister has broken trust like this, it takes a lot of time to rebuild trust … even in his own family and marriage. It seems like when they want to rush back into ministry, they are caring more about how this has affected them instead of the impact it has had on those closest to him and the body of Christ. Ministry isn’t about the minister. It is about serving God’s people. Ministers who have failed should not be rushed back into the limelight!!!” Annette Houtz Compton wrote.

“How soon should a pastor be restored after falling into sin? How long does it take God to forgive one who repents of his sin?” commented Bishop Rodney Sanders.

“Narcissism at its finest these days. Holiness has been put on the shelf & out comes hyper grace. We need to get back to the fear of God (& this incident scares the mud out of me) instead of the fear & worship of man,” Bonnie Curry Stempel noted.

“Does God expect 2 years of groveling at the AofG? Or can God bring fruits of repentance in one single ALTER CALL OF POWER? From how I read this article he refused 2 years of his life being under the scrutiny of how bad he has been. God restores and give grace and mercy. Seems like he refused the AofG recommended penance of walking on his knees at their temple,” said Kris Koskella.

“He can’t wait to be restored. After all, there’s money to be made … is how tons of ppl are gonna read this,” speculated Laura Vernon Bull.

The divided responses show a divided body of Christ—and it also shows that there needs to be more discussion around how to restore a fallen leader. Sam Hinn wasn’t the first leader to fall, and he won’t be the last. I am grateful for Ron Johnson’s boldness to come out with a part of the story we would otherwise never have known—and in doing so starting a much-needed dialogue.

Personally, I believe a four-year affair requires more than an eight-month restoration process. And if Johnson, who has known Hinn for 30 years and has been involved in successfully restoring fallen ministers in the past, prayerfully laid out a two-year plan, then I believe it was necessary. As Johnson noted in his article, restoration is not only about forgiveness; it’s also about trust.

So what’s going on here? I don’t think this is a hypergrace error, but neither do I wonder why so many folks think money ultimately drove Hinn back into ministry just a few months after admitting to long-term sexual immorality. Hinn needs money to live on. Whatever motivated Chironna and Archbishop Lonnie Langston to re-ordain him so quickly, we can only pray that he doesn’t fall again and hurt more people in the rush back to ministry.

An Overseer’s Response to Sam Hinn’s Re-Ordination (and the Restoration of Other Fallen Leaders) 1:00PM EDT 8/12/2013     Ron Johnson

                                                       Pastor Ron Johnson

Whether you recognize Sam Hinn’s name or know nothing about the ministry of Benny Hinn’s younger brother, there’s an important issue in the body of Christ that needs to be addressed in light of Sam’s “re-ordination” on Sunday night in Orlando, Fla., only eight months after he stepped down from the pulpit due to a serious moral indiscretion.

This and other recent instances—both in Orlando and around the nation—prove that we, as the church, still struggle with how to restore fallen leaders.

When Sam’s four-year affair came to light, the board of his church, the Gathering Place (TGP), reached out to me because TGP wasn’t part of a ministerial association and because they knew I’d dealt with this numerous times in my 35 years of ministry. They also recognized that I’d known Sam for more than 30 years, having been pastor of a church nearby, and that I’d do anything I could to help them and him.

During that very difficult time, Sam submitted to my leadership. I outlined a two-year plan of restoration and walked through the initial stages with him. But after three months, Sam wanted to renegotiate the terms. When I wouldn’t agree to that, he withdrew from my covering and has since found a group of men willing to endorse his leadership in a more expeditious manner.

On Sunday, Bishop Mark Chironna, Archbishop Lonnie Langston and a handful of other leaders laid hands on Sam in a ceremony at Church on the Living Edge, also near where I pastor in Longwood, Fla. During the service, attended by fewer than 100 people, Chironna mentioned that Joseph Garlington, bishop of Covenant Church in Pittsburgh, was en route to the service and also among those fully backing Sam’s re-ordination.

I have to confess that when I heard about the plans to re-ordain Sam, I was upset. I told one of my ministry colleagues, “This is a joke and makes a mockery out of everything I hold dear and have spent my life proclaiming and upholding.”

I feel now that I must speak up after personally reaching out to several of the leaders involved in this re-ordination—including Sam—but getting no real response from my voicemails and text messages.

Obviously, these men believe Sam is ready for ministry. Though I love Sam dearly and want him to be restored, I strongly disagree with this. In fact, it’s because I love him that I cry out now.

I sat with Sam for hours immediately after the four-year affair was disclosed and counseled him. He was indeed a broken man. I also sat with his precious wife, Erika, and their children in perhaps the darkest hours of their life. I sought to do all I could to bring them through this tragic ordeal. So I believe in restoration.

But this is not what it looks like!

I have dealt multiple times in myriad places with leaders who have fallen. I have seen the pain and devastation their sinful actions cause. On the flip side, I have also seen fallen leaders find healing and be fully restored to not only productive lives but, yes, fruitful ministry.

Because of this, I feel I must speak out on what is happening. The truth is, this is not as much about Sam Hinn as it is a bigger issue in the church.

Restoration is a not a quick fix but a systematic process of transformation that deals with a person’s deep-seated sinful and narcissistic tendencies. These are the issues at the core of these problems and the cause of these failures in the first place.

The restoration process begins with deep sorrow and brokenness over failure and sin. (And I must add here that I sincerely believe Sam is sorry for his sinful failure.) However, a person must then move past that remorse to concrete action. The Bible teaches that we must bring forth the fruit of repentance (Matt. 3:8; Luke 3:8). The only way I know if a person has truly repented is not by what he says but by what he does. It is through demonstrating a tested, proven lifestyle of change that I can know. Then and only then can I know it’s real. That is fruit!

This does not happen in seven to eight months when there have been four years of constant sinful behavior.

I know many who will say, “Aren’t we supposed to forgive and move on? Isn’t what you are suggesting ignoring God’s grace?” Absolutely not! Restoration is not only about forgiveness, but also about trust. We are all called to forgive just as Christ has forgiven us. Sam asked for and received my total forgiveness—as he’s done with numerous people in his life.

However, trust must be earned. Only when a person is serious enough to take the time to fix what he has broken and systematically walk out a process of transformation should we trust again.

At the risk of being called a legalist, I am standing up and letting my voice be heard. I, for one, am tired of picking up the pieces from this kind moral collapse. During my involvement with Sam’s restoration, I drove a stake in the ground, and I wasn’t going to move it. It was my opinion that in many places, what he had done would permanently disqualify him, so he should be thankful for a two-year time out. Furthermore, I think two years is a minimum to deal with the issues resulting from a four-year affair. But evidently you can shop bishops until you get the answer you like.

I also believe that professional clinical counseling is a necessary part of any restoration. If I stand on a public platform and influence the lives of others, there needs to be public disclosure in some form regarding my psychological fitness to serve in that capacity before I return. If I am teaching God’s Word and caring for the eternal souls of men and women, I must be a well-balanced person myself. In Sam’s case, I question the wisdom of installing him as a teacher at a Bible school guiding young students—which is what he and the leaders announced on Sunday that he’ll be doing as a part of an Orlando extension of Langston’s Tabernacle Bible College and Seminary.

It takes time to test and prove a healthy, sound mind and heart. I realize this may seem costly and exact a lot, but another failure is even more costly and exacts an even higher price.

For the sake of the name of Jesus and His church as well as the people affected by this kind of behavior, let’s demand a higher standard and not bless quick fixes to long-term problems!

Ron Johnson is the pastor of One Church in Longwood, Fla.

THIS PART OF THE STORY SPEAKS VOLUMES: Ron Johnson, pastor of One Church (Assembly of God) in nearby Longwood, was asked by the Gathering Place’s church board to oversee the restoration process and did so for the first three months. After a disagreement over restoration stipulations, however, Johnson became estranged from the process. He told Charisma News he does not agree with timing of the re-ordination and will be making a public statement through this platform in the coming days.

OBVIOUSLY, RON JOHNSON IS NOT LIKE THE OTHERS?  SAM HINN IS ARROGANT AND UNREPENTANT; UNWILLING TO DO WHAT RON JOHNSON TOLD HIM WAS NECESSARY!  ALL THEY SPEAK ABOUT IS SAM’S FAMILY NEEDING HEALING AND RESTORATION!  WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILY SAM HINN DESTROYED. HE HAS NEVER APOLOGIZED TO ANY OF THE GROWN CHILDREN; EVEN THOUGH HE HAS THEIR NUMBERS…..NOT EVEN A TEXT MESSAGE!! SAM HINN HAD NO PROBLEM TEXTING THEM THREATENING MESSAGES BEFORE? NO, THE REAL SAM HINN’S FAMOUS LAST WORDS TO THE ABOUT THE SON THAT EXPOSED HIM WAS “I BETTER NEVER SEE HIM ON THE STREET”! SAM HINN WAS NEVER REMORSEFUL FOR THE PATH OF DESTRUCTION HE LEFT IN HIS WAKE…  ONLY, ANGRY AND VENGEFUL BECAUSE HE GOT CAUGHT!  IF HIS NAME WAS “SAM NOBODY”, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN TOSSED OUT AND NEVER ALLOWED BACK TO ANY PULPIT!  ONLY BECAUSE HE IS A “HINN” THESE OTHER DO FAVORS FOR THEM.  CERTAINLY, BENNY PAID BIG BUCKS TO GET THIS FAVOR ACCOMPLISHED TO PROTECT HIS FAMILY NAME.

Sam Hinn Getting Re-Ordained 8 Months After Sexual Misconduct

 11:30AM EDT 8/9/2013                                                                                                                       Jennifer LeClaire

                                                       Pastor Sam Hinn will be publicly re-ordained Sunday, less than eight months after stepping down from the pulpit amid a sexual scandal. (Twitter)

Less than eight months after Sam Hinn stepped down from the pulpit of his Orlando-area church amid a sexual scandal, the younger brother of evangelist Benny Hinn is being publicly re-ordained on Sunday.

Bishop Mark Chironna, founder and senior pastor of Church on the Living Edge in Longwood, Fla., sent out a phone message to the church’s members this week announcing that Hinn would be “re-ordained” by Chironna, Archbishop Lonnie Langston and six other bishops. The message indicated that Langston, founder of Tabernacle Bible College and Seminary, would be installing Hinn as a professor at the Tampa, Fla., school.

Neither Chironna nor Langston returned Charisma News’ calls seeking comment on the re-ordination, but the message from Chironna’s ministry said:

“This Sunday evening at 7:30, Bishop Lonnie Langston and a presbytery of 6 other pastors and bishops, including myself, are gonna be re-ordaining Pastor Sam Hinn at Church on the Living Edge. And I want to encourage as many of you that love Pastor Sam to come out and be a part of that.

“I’ve been part of the presbytery team in Pastor Sam’s journey in the last number of months with everything that’s gone on—and the bishops and pastors are all in hearty agreement that it’s time to re-ordain Pastor Sam as he’s gonna be working with the Tabernacle Bible College and Seminary as a professor. And we want to affirm that he’s doing well and he certainly is, and that his family is doing well and they certainly are.

“And so Sunday night is gonna be a very special night—if you have any relationship at all with Pastor Sam, I know that he’d be blessed if you would be a part of that. So, I wanna let everyone know that’s a special—special night; and we would love for you to join us and be part of that on Sunday evening at 7:30.”

Earlier this year, Hinn admitted to allowing himself “to be drawn into a relationship that has caused much hurt and pain to my wife and family. I have repented and asked for and received their forgiveness. Scripture states that I must bring forth the fruit of repentance if I expect to be restored.”

Hinn served as pastor of the Gathering Place Worship Center in Sanford, Fla., which holds two morning services attended by about 300 people each, plus a small Arabic service on Sunday afternoon. When Hinn admitted to an immoral relationship that lasted more than four years, the church board said, “Pastor Sam Hinn has been relieved of all ministry responsibilities and as the official board, we have outlined a restoration process. This process includes pastoral and professional counseling, as well as a mandatory time out of ministry so that all fractures in both his personal and family life may be healed.”

Ron Johnson, pastor of One Church (Assembly of God) in nearby Longwood, was asked by the Gathering Place’s church board to oversee the restoration process and did so for the first three months. After a disagreement over restoration stipulations, however, Johnson became estranged from the process. He told Charisma News he does not agree with timing of the re-ordination and will be making a public statement through this platform in the coming days.

Benny Hinn’s brother Sam accused of extramarital affair –

Sanford Pastor Sam Hinn engaged in a four-year love affair with a member of his congregation before being confronted by his wife and church officials, prompting him to step away from the pulpit, according to the woman’s family.

Chantel Wonder said Hinn, the younger brother of televangelist Benny Hinn, initiated the affair with her mother by telling her they were “soul mates” and that God approved of the relationship.

“He put her in a position that this is OK because it’s what God wants. He was using God to justify it,” said Wonder, 28, of St. Petersburg.

Wonder said her father became aware of the affair in December 2008 after he found text and voice messages from Hinn on his wife’s phone. At the time, his wife denied the affair. The couple, who were married June 20, 1980, divorced on Feb. 14, 2012.

Wonder said Hinn, who is married and has four children, continued the affair after her parents divorced. She said church officials confronted Hinn with evidence of the affair in December 2012, but he refused to admit he was involved with the woman.

On Jan. 14, Hinn denied the allegations of an affair to his wife, but promised not to talk to the woman again, Wonder said. Later the same day, she said, Hinn’s car was photographed parked outside her mother’s apartment.

On Wednesday, church officials read Hinn’s letter to the congregation, in which he says, “…I am taking a leave of absence from any and all ministry so I can focus my full energy on both my walk with God and restoration in my family.”

Church officials also released a statement that the board has initiated a restoration process for Hinn that involves the counsel of Ron Johnson, pastor of One Church in Longwood.

“This process includes Pastoral and Professional Counseling, as well as a mandatory time out of ministry so that all factures in both his personal and family life may be healed,” the statement says.

Chantel Wonder said this isn’t enough.

“He’ll be back in a couple of months as senior pastor, and that’s just not right,” said Wonder, who fears the church will shift all the blame on her mother.

Wonder said both her parents were involved in church activities. Her father was an usher and both were engaged in Bible study.

Her mother, who works as a hairstylist, eventually become the stylist for Hinn’s family, including his wife and children, Wonder said.

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Benny Hinn’s brother Sam Hinn accused of extramarital affair http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-benny-hinn-brother-affair-20130121,0,4344906.story

The Ghostwriter of the Prosperity Gospel? http://iamthetruthcenter.blogspot.ca/2012/03/ghostwriter-of-prosperity-gospel.html

In some parts of Christendom there are ‘Strange Manifestations’ that are being witnessed around the world today, in particular, what we are seeing today known as the ‘Lakeland Revival’ or ‘Florida Healing Outpouring’ . These manifestation, (Shaking, Jerking, convulsing/epileptic like movements, drunkenness, gold dust, gems, feathers to name just a few!) similarly witness also in previous ‘outpourings’ such as the ‘Toronto Blessing/Outpouring’, are being embraced as a move of God (or the new thing that God is doing). Not only are these disturbing but are also being accompanied by numerous unscriptural teachings and extra biblical revelations but their leaders are devoid of integrity and support adultery, divorce, lying and stealing!

America’s Counterfeit Holy Spirit and Its Name http://www.jonasclark.com/spiritual-warfare-prayer/counterfeit-holyspirit-yoga-kundalini-demons.html

APOSTASY http://holyforchrist777.blogspot.ca/2012/01/watchman-warning-apostasy-great-falling.html

IF THE LAW OF SOWING AND REAPING WAS TRUE AS BENNY HINN PROCLAIMS IT THEN HE WOULD BE GIVING US MONEY INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR MONEY?

http://www.bennyhinn.org/emailletters/9184/god-wants-you-to-create-your-financial-future

TO BE A GOOD FALSE PROPHET YOU MUST TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR AND THEN ASK FOR SEED FAITH MONEY EVEN IF JESUS SAID FREELY RECEIVED FREELY GIVE?

http://www.bennyhinn.org/emailletters/9154/seven-prophetic-promises

DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/main_miracles.html

Benny and Suzanne Hinn   http://goo.gl/7gael

Suzanne Hinn – Holy Ghost Enema I THINK THAT IS WHAT WE ALL NEED  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jhw_5ye8Qo

http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2012/06/12/benny-hin/

Christian protection racket http://tinyurl.com/28rwjkk

Wealth Transfer Theology Is Demonic http://www.scribd.com/doc/29618734

Video: TBN Co-Founder Paul Crouch Suggests God Will Kill People for TBN http://bit.ly/LTkAgl

Randy & Paula White Are Parasites Pimps & Prostitutes   http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

KARL STRADER’S MASSIVE CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH IS AN ALBATROSS AND PASTOR KARL STRADER IS HISTORY http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

Exposing the Counterfeit in the Emergent Church http://wp.me/p2PVVX-1F

MIKE BICKLE is a LIAR and IHOP FORMERLY KCF ACTUALLY IS A CULT.  http://www.scribd.com/doc/113688423/ErnieGruenReport-KeepSmilingAndSayNothing-ReKansasCity

PAT KING  http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

Raping Bethany Deaton Was a ‘Religious Experience’ | Gather http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981762754

MONEY, POSITION AND POWER

Money, Position and Power

For thus says the LORD: “You have sold yourselves for nothing, And you shall be redeemed without money Isaiah 52:13

When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick, Matthew 8:16

Unlike many Christian ministries today which covet the money, talents and resources of people, when Jesus and the disciples healed, delivered and did miracles for the people money, rank, position and power had nothing to do with the gospel. Jesus and the disciples freely gave as they freely received; as best expressed by the word of Jesus and Peter:

“And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ “Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give. “Provide neither gold nor silver nor copper in your money belts,  “nor bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor staffs; for a worker is worthy of his food. Matthew 10:7-10

Then Peter said, “Silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk.” And he took him by the right hand and lifted him up, and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength. So he, leaping up, stood and walked and entered the temple with them-walking, leaping, and praising God. And all the people saw him walking and praising God. Acts 3:6-9

The emphasis among the early disciples was on sharing and collecting money for the poor and not for the glorification and enrichment of one particular person. As is done in so many TV ministries we have seen in the last generation in America. For God’s word is true:

for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men?  For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal?   Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one?  I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. 1 Corinthians 3:3-7

It is not he who plants  nor he who waters who are important, but God who gives the increase. Also Love, not religion, prominence, fame nor doctrine, is the golden rule which dictates the plans and purposes of ministry for edifying and building up the sheep and not robbing, raping and using them. For God’s word is true:

Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.  For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. For each one shall bear his own load. Let him who is taught the word share in all good things with him who teaches. Galatians 6:2-6

What matters is not that the ministry of men are successful but that God’s kingdom come, His will be done on earth as it is in heaven and that His sheep are saved, healed, delivered, set free, bless and prospered. So that God not man will get the credit and the glory. For God’s word is true even this day:

‘I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. ‘You shall have no other gods before Me. ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image-any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them.

For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me,  but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.   ‘You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.  Deuteronomy 5:6-11.

Jamie Buckingham a well known Christian writer in his article “ He is saying something to us through the PTL scandal. The question is: How will we respond?” wrote in 1987 some  very profound remarks that need to be considered even today in light of the many religious scandal with the prominent ones in America:

There are certain times in history when “God comes down.”  Charismatics like to think of Pentecost as one of those times,  when the gentle breath of the Holy Spirit blew upon the church  and filled it with power. But we need to remember the Holy Spirit  is not only pneuma, which is the New Testament concept of a  gentle, lifting spirit. He is also ruach, which is the Old  Testament word for a roaring, seemingly destructive wind.  Evangelicals and fundamentalists, while denying the miraculous  power of the pneuma, understand the purpose of the ruach.

In this case, humans conspired to enter into rivalry with  God. God was called “The Name.” They said, “Let US make a name  for ourselves.” They conspired to take away the Name from Him.  The result: God came down, for He will not share His glory.

Today’s generation is characterized by countless Christian  leaders who have named their ministries after themselves. There  is nothing wrong with name identification. The problem lies in  the super-star syndrome many attach to themselves. When I asked  the head of one of the nation’s largest ministries to whom he  submitted, he quickly said: “To God.”

I shudder at the personal arrogance and lack of  accountability among leaders–which is one of the major causes of  faulty lifestyle and lavish spending. I know of only one man,  among the heads of America’s largest ministries, who submits his  personal life to peers who are not in his employ or enamored with  his position. I believe God is calling leaders, not just the  televangelists, but all pastors and lay leaders, to be personally  accountable to peers. The temptations are too great to grow  prideful or to become deceived. Today’s shaking is forcing  leaders to turn to one another.

I shudder at the fund-raising techniques used by most major  ministries of America. Most of the direct mail letters sent out  play fast and loose with truth. How can God bless a computer- generated letter, signed by an automatic pen, telling the  recipient that the leader is praying for him at that very moment?  How can God bless a televangelist who goes on the air and tells  people he has used up all his money and desperately needs more  contributions–while he and all his family are driving $50,000  automobiles and living in very expensive homes?

We must be careful in judging. Oral Roberts, in standing up  for Jim Bakker, made a point of saying he was going to forgive  him, because he (Oral) wanted to be forgiven also. That is the  essence of what Jesus said in Matthew 7:1: The spirit by which we  judge others will be used by those who judge us.

Now, once again, God has come down and is walking among us.  He is not pleased that we have tried to satisfy our individual  obligations to minister by giving to large ministries. We give to  Jerry Falwell to build a home for unwed mothers, to PTL for a  home for handicapped children, to Jimmy Swaggart so he may  support Assemblies of God missionaries, to CBN’s Operation  Blessing to feed the hungry. All are worthy ministries. But God  wants each of us involved. We should be taking these people into  our homes, we should be evangelizing–not hiring a televangelist  to do it for us. God is forcing us back into our local churches,  the only place where real ministry–personal ministry–can take  place.

Television has been the greatest means of spreading the  Gospel since the invention of the printing press. But with great  opportunity comes great accountability. This is a time of  accounting. God is checking the books. Those who love to appear  in public are being judged in public. Once again, it seems, God  has entered the temple to overturn the tables of the  moneychangers. His breath is blowing across His kingdom,  cleansing and purifying. The end result will be as always: to  form a people in the image of His Son and to bring glory to  Himself.

All this is happening for one reason: to reveal the  sovereignty of God. He is, after all, “a consuming  fire….removing what can be shaken–that is, created things–so  that what  cannot be shaken may remain” (Hebrews. 12:27).

Richard Roberts announced on Television Sunday August 23, 1998 that God was moving in many churches because of the word that the Lord gave his father Oral Roberts about Miracles are coming back in big way. But the Roberts never talked about how the City of Faith failed? How the accreditation of their law school failed? How they went 40 millions dollars into debt after Oral Roberts forgave and defended Jim Bakker for robbing and using the sheep?  Richard and Oral Roberts did not talk about the Miracles that they lost?

Richard Roberts did not talk about how he went to bat for Dan Strader the Son of Pastor Karl Strader who was sentenced to 45 years for crimes he did commit?  Richard Roberts did not talk about how he did nothing for the victims of the Strader’s even though he was asked to help them and to remove Karl Strader from being on the board of Oral Roberts University?

Was this not hypocrisy and double standards from so called men of God? Didn’t God speak to other men today beside Oral Roberts? Are not the word of prophet Micah true today?

But truly I am full of power by the Spirit of the LORD,  And of justice and might,  To declare to Jacob his transgression  And to Israel his sin.  Now hear this,  You heads of the house of Jacob  And rulers of the house of Israel,  Who abhor justice  And pervert all equity,  Who build up Zion with bloodshed  And Jerusalem with iniquity:  Her heads judge for a bribe,  Her priests teach for pay,  And her prophets divine for money.

Yet they lean on the LORD, and say,  “Is not the LORD among us?  No harm can come upon us.”  Therefore because of you  Zion shall be plowed like a field,  Jerusalem shall become heaps of ruins,  And the mountain of the temple  Like the bare hills of the forest. Micah 3:8-12

Did not the Roberts sin by showing partiality and favoritism to the high and mighty like Jim Baker and the Straders of Lakeland?  I personally sent my draft manuscript the Strader Affair plus many personal letters to all the prominent religious ones in America;  Dr. Billy Graham, Dr. Bill Bright, Kenneth Copeland, Oral and Richard Roberts, Paul Crouch, Pat Robertson, Scott Ross, David Mainse, General Superintendent Thomas E. Trask, District Superintendent Don Lunsford, Dr. Benny Hinn, Dr. Rodney Howard Browne and many others.  I explained to them that I had documented that  wolves in sheep’s clothing were raping, robbing and murdering the sheep in the house of God and what God’s word said  about justice including chapters 1, 57, 58 of Isaiah. But not one of them would do anything about this matter. But they did help the aggressors  and not the victims?

Unfortunately, as documented by the Strader Affair there were many who were deceived but very few who were doers of the Word as defined by the  History of the Revival of 1992-1995  6. Karl Strader taken from a web site:

In February of 1993, Karl Strader, pastor of Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland, Florida, and his wife, Joyce, were in Hawaii for a Worship ’93 conference, where Norvel Hayes prophesied that a tremendous great wind of the Spirit was about to come to them. Joyce Strader wrote in Ministries Today (July/August 1993, p. 38), “We arrived home Saturday night. That Sunday morning Carpenter’s Home Church began a planned one-week series of meetings with South African evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne But God had a surprise for us. The meetings went on for four weeks — with thousands flocking to the church to see and taste the new move of God…. But God never intended for it to last only a week. Full-blown revival has come to Central Florida and Carpenter’s Home Church.”

During the first few months of 1993, Rodney Howard-Browne spent a total of thirteen weeks at that church, and Christian leaders from many parts of the United States, including Richard Roberts, chancellor of Oral Roberts University, came to the meetings to observe and participate, and minister in the new anointing. Charisma (Aug 1994, p. 24), stated that people flew in for these meetings from Africa, Great Britain, and Argentina to see what was happening.

The effect of this so called revival in Carpenter’s Home Church  and its lasting impact on the community as documented by this book included the robbing, raping and murdering of innocent God fearing elderly by people  by  the Straders. The assistant State Attorney’s remarked, at the trial of Daniel Strader, that there are other things in life besides the pursuit money  such as justice is something that Oral and Richard Roberts did not consider important.

The Roberts never talked about what the media talked about in Florida including: investors knew him as the son of a well known local pastor.  Strader 35, is the son of Karl Strader, Pastor of the Carpenter’s Home Church in north Lakeland. A 1979 telecommunication graduate of Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, Okla. the younger Strader formed Interstate in 1985.. Daniel Strader, 36 was arrested on Friday May 20, 1994, at his father’s beautiful home, on a lake, across the street from an 18 hole golf course, for what the State of Florida alleged that Dan did.

He was the son of the Pastor and a devout Church member of Carpenter’s Home Church. Also a former insurance investigator and a  self-made and self-proclaimed investor with a once-thriving insurance practice. The State Attorney office of Florida would give a picture of a confident pitchman whose financial world was in shambles. Interviews with investors by the media revealed that Strader offered attractive double digit interest rates on their so-called investments which turned out to be a sham.

The Investors solicited by Dan Strader were told many things about where their money was being invested, from real estate to insurance companies or stocks or bonds, but ended up instead in a company run by Dan Strader, Interstate Financial Services or in his personal pocket or bank account.  All the while, Dan Strader was telling others that he was paying the interest with income from company owned properties. While it mainly came in from other gullible investors who believed the Pastor’s son and this so called man of god and graduate of Oral Roberts University who prayed with and preyed on them, while he  talked about Christ and quoted Bible verses.

Investigators would later show that Dan Strader’s five of the properties he had purchased for investors with their funds, were actually in Strader’s own name. Many of his so-called investors or victims, were his insurance clients or members of his father’s church. Dan and Pastor Karl Strader also told the parishioners of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida that Dan faced real threats and dangers because of threats from his investors. Although, this was never established as a fact, by the Straders or by the court.

Many people in and around Lakeland, Florida, especially preachers and retired elderly, were really upset that they were conned out of their life’s savings by the son of a prominent Assembly of God, Pastor. Karl Strader once told others that his original calling was to serve God in Russia as a missionary, and started to learn the Russian language in order to fulfill his calling. Too bad, Karl didn’t go to Russia, so many people would have been spared the pain and agony of knowing and working with him!

Dan Strader said about the arrest and all the rumors that he was innocent and it was all a misunderstanding. This was a theme that was replayed by Dan and his family for the next two years. On Sunday, May 22,1994, Pastor Karl Strader, 64, of Carpenter Home Church in Lakeland, Florida, paraded his complete family including in-laws in front of the congregation and  told them that the media and government were not hearing the full story of his son’s plight.

This circus parade of the Straders was to repeat itself over the next two years, because the Straders thought they were special in the eyes of God and man. Little did they know what the community around them, religious and business, really thought and said about them. Words such as crooks, hypocrites, Pharisees, thieves, liars and murderers and wanted nothing to do with them. All along the Straders couldn’t figure out why the ten thousand seat church had only a fraction of the people, the turnover of members and adherents was the highest of any church in the states, and church was in financial trouble all the time.

Karl said, he was perplexed by the picture of his son portrayed by the investigators and in the media reports. He also stated, that they have pictured us as a part of the family we don’t know, for his son is a warm, loving, kind, very human person, a person who trusts God and after 36 years was caught in a web drowning. Nothing was farther from the truth, as Karl Strader’s spoken words were, as the mountain of evidence and testimony of real elderly victims, would later show.

In the circus parade, Pastor Karl Strader stated what was to be his standard response for the next year about Dan Strader, “ All we ask is a fair trial and opportunity for him to make restitution. His heart is very tender towards God. He is seeking the Lord. There never has been a time when he hasn’t sought the Lord to my knowledge. We’re all looking for  a supernatural deliverance, for God is a God of miracles.”  Well Dan received his fair trial, he was found guilty of seeking illegally  the riches of this world, supernatural deliverance never came, Karl’s knowledge was of Dan was poor, and Dan never confessed that he did something really wrong, and neither did the Straders.

The fact remained that as a result of the Ponzi scheme operated by Dan Strader and  Alice Faye Redd (also once members of Carpenter’s Home church) in Polk county, Florida, some people lost their homes and many other things including their lives. A Ponzi scheme is where returns are paid to older investments by using funds from newer investors, Many were not able to recover financially, from the loss of their life’s savings being stolen by so-called Christians, who were also members of the Assembly of God Churches.

Many of the real victims were retired elderly, who invested with Dan Strader or Alice Faye Redd because they were recommended as a good Christian people. They trusted these Christians, as they came from a prominent Assembly of God church, which was supposed to be the home of the Carpenter, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Well for the record, the real  “Carpenter” worked for a living, He didn’t collect money nor  steal from others. He also blessed,  healed and delivered people  and gave even His own life for them rather than to put them in bondage.

Jesus Christ was literally  innocent of all the accusations that the religious leaders and the authorities of the day made against Him. The Straders and Redds were guilty of their crimes which included robbing, stealing, lying, hurting  and even causing  people to die prematurely. Many of their victims, out of embarrassment, or because they were Christians, didn’t file any charges or complaints against them. Some of the victims, especially in Carpenter’s Home church, even believed that Dan Strader one day  would return their money, because he gave his word and the Strader name was “a good name which could be trusted.”

The state attorney’s office stated that some cash derived from expensive local check-cashing services, of investors checks, were deposited in bank accounts of Dan Strader and his wife Melissa, and they were used to pay the couples personal debts. Again Dan, as a pastor’s son and graduate of Oral Roberts University, should have know the Word of God, which stated:

Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. (Ephesians 4:28)

It was also established in the courts by Debby, Dan Strader’s secretary from 1989 to 1992, that Dan quoted the Word of God “The wealth of the wicked will be inherited by the righteous, ” especially  when he talked about and mocked three of his investors and called them alcoholics, a red neck and a truck driver. Other events would show that the Straders knew how to quote Scripture verses but they didn’t know how to live by them. There is a difference that is evident to all!

Although, some people, including Senior Pastors of Assembly of God churches , memorized chapters and even books of the Bible, they definitely didn’t put into practice the Word of God the way it was meant to be. For many of them did not do anything about the injustices and wrongs in their denomination. Again, there is a difference between memorizing and doing the Word of God.

What was proven and established by the courts was  that Dan stalked and preyed on the trusting and defenseless elderly. The unfortunate part, is that the group of people who were mostly hurt by the criminal  actions of Dan Strader and his competitor Alice Faye Redd, were the elderly. It was a group that was defenseless and powerless and an easy prey to those who were supposed to be trustworthy.

In the PTL Scandal, it was also the widows with their small monthly incomes, that became the target of Jim Bakker, in his search for easy money. It was no coincidence that both Jim and Dan pleaded not guilty and they both got a 45 year sentence. However, it was a group that Jesus Himself would have been most upset about, because Jesus saw what the widow and the Pharisee gave to the house of God.

The Roberts were fooling nobody with their hypocritical words and trying to steal glory from God;. Sure God was moving in a miraculous and mighty way in America but it is definitely not because of but in spite of the Roberts of Tulsa and their continual chatter about money.

(Alice Faye Redd, once a member of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida and later Victory Assembly of God in 1995 was sentenced to 15 years in prison for defrauding more than 100 people especially the elderly out of $3.5 million.  The Auburndale native was released from prison in 1998 at the age of 61 because she was battling spinal cancer and the Parole Commission learned she was dying. She lived another four years before dying in 2002.)

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