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RELIGIOUS FRAUD

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RELIGIOUS FINANCIAL FRAUD https://www.scribd.com/doc/24336837/An-Overview-of-Religious-Financial-Fraud

Sunday Morning Stickup http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/14/us/sunday-stickup/index.html

DECEIVING THE ELECT http://www.pursuingtheword.com/deceive.htm

Seducing Spirits http://www.jonsquillministries.org/sermonseducingspirits.htm

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDREL http://www.scribd.com/doc/17673980

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

How Pastors Get Rich http://tinyurl.com/3azvjzy

THE TRUTH ABOUT FUNDRAISING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ii

Counterfeits in the the Third Wave Church http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-E2

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS https://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

Walter hosting blog radio on Jan 31 exposing Benny Hinn and the Roberts http://cdn5.blogtalkradio.com/show/1/461/show_1461365.mp3

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT

Pastor-Rodney-Howard-BrowneRODNEY HOWARD BROWNE-THE FOUNDER AND ORIGINATOR OF THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT  

My earliest exposure to the Laughter Movement was in the latter part of 1994 when I read a feature article on Rodney Howard Browne in Stephen Strang’s Charisma Magazine. The so called “outbreaks of revivals” drew my interest and attention but the manifestation of Laughter in these meetings sounded unscriptural to me. So I put the matter off my mind for a season, so to say. My interest was rekindled some time later when there was a local outbreak of laughter among people I personally knew but again I shrugged it off as perhaps something “of the flesh” and something having no spiritual significance. Then one fine day it dawned upon me that a thing of the flesh cannot possibly spread from Toronto to the United Kingdom and to Australia and New Zealand and even to our shores here in such a short period of time. Certainly there could not have been that many actors and actresses acting out their parts in so many cities of the world at the same time! Since then the burden in my heart has been to delve into the root of this phenomenon using God’s Word as my spiritual lamp. The notes appended below and following are the result of months of critical analysis and research through the Bible, books, magazines, articles downloaded from the Internet, videos of Rodney Howard Browne, personal observation and testimonies from many different sources.

The basis of our Christian Faith is in the person of Jesus Christ. We are christians because we believe what the Lord says in the Bible. So likewise we have to know something about the founder of the Laughter Movement and the kind of things he says so that we can decide whether to put our faith in him or not. Who then is Rodney Howard-Browne and what are the things he says?

“In July of 1979, at eighteen years of age, Rodney M. Howard-Browne of Port Elizabeth, South Africa, reached a crossroads in his life……. while at an interdenominational prayer meeting with about eighteen young people at this time, he cried out to the Lord, `God, either you come down here tonight and touch me, or I’m going to die and come up there and touch you.’ He began shouting, frightening nearly everyone who was present. He shouted for twenty minutes……”(1)

Now the first thing to note is that Rodney Howard-Browne reached a crossroad in his life. There is nothing wrong with a crossroad provided you take the right turning. A wrong spiritual turning could be disastrous!

If you analyse Rodney’s prayer carefully you will notice the following points:

*THIS PRAYER SAYS LET MY WILL BE DONE INSTEAD OF LET THY WILL BE DONE

*THIS PRAYER VIOLATES THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD.
God’s Word says that we can only receive what is given [to us] from above. In the spiritual realm, God initiates sovereignly; our duty is to align ourselves to His Will and purpose.
John 3:27
27 To this John replied, “A man can receive only what is given him from heaven. (NIV)

*THIS PRAYER IS NOT HEARD BECAUSE GOD ONLY HEARS PRAYER THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS WILL……
I Jn 5:14
14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. (NIV
)

Notice that Rodney Howard Browne threatened to commit suicide if his demand was not met.

When we try to arm-twist or demand something from God, we are in essence asking for something OUT OF HIS WILL. So according to the above Scripture, when we ask out of HIS WILL, God does not hear us. On the other hand, someone else will hear and answer us. We must be aware that there are other spiritual forces at work in this universe.

“In a 1994 interview on TBN with Paul Crouch, Rodney Howard-Browne said…..while he was preaching…. `People began to fall out of their seats…rolling on the floor. The air was moving. People began to laugh uncontrollably while there wasn’t anything funny…..”(2)

So began the so-called Laughter Revival in the United States. Now if you look carefully at Figure No.1 you will notice that this “laughter anointing” passed down from Rodney Howard-Browne to Randy Clark (who apparently came close to a nervous breakdown in 1993) and from Randy Clark the “anointing” passed downwards again to John Arnott, the present pastor of the Toronto Airport Vineyard Church. John’s church was apparently in a “hospital mode”, (presumably spiritually sick), before the outpouring of the Laughter anointing. Later, John himself described this anointing as `highly contagious and transferable.”(3) The services in this church are reputed to have gone on for six nights a week since January 1994. From Toronto, this Laughter Movement has spread to many parts of the world. The ultimate source of the Laughter Movement therefore is still Rodney Howard-Browne.

Now let us analyse some of the things Rodney Howard-Browne says and whether his sayings have any Scriptural validity. The sayings of Rodney Howard-Browne (in italics) below are compared with Scriptures which are in bold.

SAYINGS OF RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…
“As long as something is happening it really does not matter if it is of God, of man or of the devil.” Personal Freedom Outreach Newsletter, Personal Freedom Outreach, PO Box 26062, St Louis, USA Pages 3, 4 and 5.

I Jn 4:1
1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…..
” …if you are a preacher of the gospel and you [are] no longer able to preach, I tell you that’s a miracle. To quieten any preacher is a major move of God.” Sign and Wonders Camp Meeting USA Video #5, April 1994

Rom 10:14
14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE SAYS…..
“…the very air was moving. People began to laugh uncontrollably while there wasn’t anything funny…. The less I preached, the more people were saved.” A History of the Revival by Richard Riss, Page 5

Mark 16:15-16
15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation. 16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. (NIV)

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS……
“One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed” Charisma Magazine, August 1994, page 24.

Luke 16:23-24
23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side.
24 So he called to him, `Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ (NIV)

“Zacharias was struck dumb for nine months……..And somebody said, `well that was a curse’. But it really wasn’t….” Video entitled “The Holy Laugh”, United Kingdom 1994

Luke 1:18-20
18 And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.
19 And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.
20 And, behold, THOU SHALT BE DUMB, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, BECAUSE THOU BELIEVEST NOT MY WORDS, which shall be fulfilled in their season. (KJV) Emphasis Mine

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS…..
“Let it flow like a river, let it flow like a river. GET YOUR MIND OUT OF THE WAY. Let it bubble out of your belly like rivers of living water….” Video entitled “The Coming Revival”, Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida.

Luke 10:27
27 He answered:”‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your MIND’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.'” (NIV) Emphasis Mine

RODNEY HOWARD-BROWNE SAYS……
“I can see some of you praying.DON’T PRAY. Pray when you get back into the car…..” From a tract entitled “The Toronto Blessing, No Laughing Matter, published by Old Paths Publishing House, PO BOX 126, Singapore 9155.

1Thes 5:17-18
17 PRAY CONTINUALLY;
18 give thanks in all circumstances, for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus. (NIV) Emphasis Mine.

As you can see from the above, the sayings of Rodney Howard-Browne are contrary to the teachings of the Bible. Are you going to believe Rodney Howard-Browne or are you going to believe the Inspired Word of God?

Nelson’s Bible Dictionary defines a prophet as follows….

PROPHET
A person who spoke for God and who communicated God’s message courageously to God’s Chosen People– the nation of Israel. Nelson’s Illustrated Bible Dictionary, Copyright (C) 1986, Thomas Nelson Publishers

A prophet is one who speaks God’s Word. A false prophet is one who speaks God’s Word falsely. He distorts the truth of God’s Word. He also claims false revelation from God which is opposed to the Word of God. The verses below from Matthew Chapter 24 was spoken by Jesus to his disciples.

Matt 24:3-4
3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. (NIV)

The disciples were believers. So, in essence, Jesus is warning the christians today to be careful `not to be deceived’. There is no point in warning the non-christians as they are already in a state of deception……

2 Cor 4:4
4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. (NIV)

False Prophets operate through the process of deception. They lead christians into error (by distorting and twisting the Word of God). If it were possible, these false prophets would also deceive God’s Elect by performing lying signs and wonders [and claiming these to be from the Holy Spirit]…..

Matt 24:11
11 And many FALSE PROPHETS will rise up and DECEIVE and LEAD MANY INTO ERROR. (AMPLIFIED BIBLE-EMPHASIS MINE)

Matt 24:24
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect– if that were possible. (NIV)

Remember that they will come IN HIS NAME and therefore mas-querade as “christian” ministers….

Matt 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, `LORD, LORD, DID WE NOT PROPHESY IN YOUR NAME, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
23 Then I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Away from me, you EVILDOERS!’ (NIV) Emphasis Mine.

Does the name Rodney Howard-Browne ring some bells now?

EXTRACT  DECEIVING THE ELECT- A SCRIPTURAL AND CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT by Dr. Eddy Cheong http://www.agape.com/laughter.htm

FOOT NOTE

OF COURSE I DESPISE PENTECOSTAL EVANGELIST/PASTOR RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER AND THE CLOWN WITH HIS FALSE DOCTORATE DEGREE AND SO DOES GOD. HE HATES ANYBODY WHO FLEECES SHEEP IN HIS NAME!

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE who is accountable to no one but himself not only practices nepotism but has had members of his family on the payroll of his nonprofit institution! He believes in repaying evil for good! So when Pastor Karl Strader robbed him of money during the Lakeland revival of 1993-94 he repaid him with a new Lincoln town car. Of course the money didn’t come out of his own pocket but from the love offering of the dumb trusting sheep! NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241 TO STEPHEN STRADER http://blog.thewaycf.com/2008/08/to-stephen-strader-re-todd-bentley.html

In theory Browne came to America from South Africa to “revive” a largely sleeping church. He quickly got labeled as a Holy Ghost “bartender” because of the manifestations of “holy laughter” dominating his ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members. Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida, for the bible stated:

1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

Christmas morning, Dec 25, 2002, changed the lives of Dr’s Rodney and Adonica Howard-Browne forever. It was early hours of that morning, that Kelly, their 18 year old daughter, passed away in his arms. She had suffered from the incurable disease, Cystic Fibrosis for 18 years.

As she passed away, Rodney and Adonica offered up to Jesus the best gift they had to offer, their daughter. Rodney then vowed, that because the devil had taken their daughter with this dreaded disease, he would pay with 100 million souls over the next 10 years.

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

Gordon Williams response to Karl Strader http://truelightministries.org/blog1/archives/70

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

COUNTERFEIT

satisfy us early

 Another Jesus A Different Spirit A Different Gospel

For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4

We have today in the church of Jesus Christ false prophets, seducers, liars and thieves masquerading as men of God, including people like Rodney Howard Browne, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, Peter Wagner, who through the Third Wave give rise to seducing Spirits and doctrines of devils.

The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form “Joel’s Army” to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.

While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs for decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000. The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of ’strategic level spiritual warfare’ to expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive charismatic manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, ’slain in the spirit,’ and congregations laughing, jerking, and shrieking uncontrollably.

Rodney Howard-Browne is one of the most controversial and publicized figures of the Third Wave movement. While many of the leaders have been almost invisible in the mainstream media, Howard-Browne and his Holy Laughter anointing have been covered by CNN , Time, Newsweek, PBS, and numerous British media outlets. Howard-Browne refers to himself in many of these articles as the “Holy Ghost bartender.”

He is also one of the most controversial figures in the Evangelical world and is the subject of many hundreds of internet pages from other Evangelical and Fundamentalists discernment groups who view his unusual revival manifestations such as uncontrollable laughter, weeping, shrieking, and animal noises, as cultic. Other conservative Christians also find fault with Howard-Browne’s end time belief that a unified and purified church is currently being restored through a “great awakening” that is manifesting itself through these “signs and wonders.”

Howard-Browne, like the other leaders of the Third Wave, believe that they are raising a great end time army that will take control of the world through spiritual warfare, and triumph over Satan before the millennial reign of Jesus.

Through the revivals held at Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland Florida broadcast by Trinity Broadcasting Network, Rodney Howard Browne infested Christendom in North America with Kundalini spirits! (See Pastor Rodney The Sheep Fleecer  RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812,  Not Innocent” http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241  )

The false failed and demonic Lakeland revival of 2008 demonstrated to the world not only how deceived and idiots the Third Wave leaders were but also the “Kundalini spirits” that possess them! (See Todd Bentley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWpTvcM74U&feature=related).

As a result Peter Wagner, one of the major Third Wave leaders, stated

Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver. I’m sorry to mention it, but I felt personally deceived in the same way when Ted Haggard’s sin was exposed and he was immediately removed from ministry… Suffice it to say that there is more than I am going to mention. First of all, Todd has been removed from public ministry until further notice. He has resigned from the ministry he founded, Fresh Fire, so he is no longer a part of that board. It has become clear that he indulged in periodic drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna, nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Enough said-maybe more details will be revealed later-but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy.

Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries http://moriel.org/ stated

Todd Bentley, the criminally convicted homosexual pedophile turned drunken heretic and adulterer who kicked old ladies in the face and stomach on YouTube at the failed Lakeland, Florida counterfeit revival has entered into a biblically adulterous re- marriage while under a “process of restoration” led by biblically proven false prophet Rick Joyner.

Bentley was ring master at a debacle of lunacy and false healing debunked on national TV orchestrated by the infamous Strader family, whom the District Attorney implicated in financial scandals defrauding elderly Christians of millions of dollars. While the Florida District Attorney publicly names Pastor Steve Strader as complicit in the swindling, his brother was sent to prison for over 30 years as a professional gangster under American anti racketeering RICO statutes.  Bob Jones was debunked as a sexual predator with vulnerable women while Paul Cain was publicly disclosed to be a drunken pervert with a life long history of alcoholism and homosexuality.

Pastor Bola Olivia Ogedengbe of ABBA HOUSE church, Paris ( http://bolaoged.com/?p=743) stated:

In 2009 after the revival failed and Todd Bentley divorced his wife, Rick Joyner led the restoration team which included leaders who had vouched for Bentley’s good character in the past even as he was deceiving us all, and has posted a letter on his web page. We are informed that ‘Even so, they are married now and are resolved to make the most of their marriage, their lives, and to continue to serve the Lord in the best way that they can.

Their being married far from making it right has in my view made matters even worse and totally disqualified Todd Bentley from any reinstatement in ministry in the foreseeable future. It means there is no repentance. He has simply gone into outright rebellion by marrying his mistress. Even if his wife had chosen to divorce him, which does not seem to be the case, a more judicious, moral and righteous course of action would have been to break off this adulterous relationship and stay celibate before God Instead, he remarries quickly. And we are put before the fait accompli. Is there a recent translation of the New Testament that decrees that the solution to adultery is to quickly divorce the offended party and marry the mistress?

Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson who are both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, have been working hard to reinforce Todd Bentley’s unbiblical behavior as acceptable. It’s to be noted  Todd Bentley’s s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” has absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections are not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” (See AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  http://www.scribd.com/doc/2909690/AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  And TODD BENTLEY DEMONIC MINISTRY  http://www.scribd.com/doc/3113512/Investigating-TODD-BENTLEY-AND-HIS-DEMONIC-MINISTRY- )

The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is a lot on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age. This web site covers it quite well: http://newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html  It gives a list of some the symptoms. Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini:

In Hinduism there are several forms of yoga (yoking) which all have the goal of giving the practitioner cosmic consciousness and unity with God. [The origins of Kundalini Yoga (sometimes called Raja or roya Yoga) come from the form of Hinduism known as Kashmir Shavism. This form of yoga comes from the Kashmir region of India and the god these Hindus worship is Shiva. Shiva was the Hindu god represented in the movie “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.”

Hindu depiction Of A Chakra:

Wheel of spinning Energy – Kundalini Yoga “the serpent power.”

Sanskrit kund, “to burn”; kunda, “to coil or to spiral”: a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine as a man or woman begins to evolve in their first incarnation; fed by the chakras along the spine and by the cosmic energy entering through the feet from the earth; as wisdom is earned in each incarnation, this electromagnetic, ultrapotent energy moves slowly upward through the spine; Kundalini is feminine polarity in nature. Sim. (Donning International Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary, June G. Beltzer, Ph.D., p. 343).

1.Kundalini in English means “the serpent power.” It is the common Hindu belief that within each person resides a “serpent” coiled tightly up at the base of the spine. Through practicing Kundalini yoga, along with chanting, mediation, and an impartation from the guru one can have their Kundalini Awakened. Kundalini Yoga is the “power yoga” of Hinduism. It is the pathway to supernatural power and godhood. Kundalini Yoga can also lead to mental collapse, psychosis, and demon possession or oppression.

2.”Asian cultures have used these teachings of the Chakra System for about 4,000 years and it’s only the last approx. 10 years that this information has filtered into the west. Chakra literally translated from the Hindi means ‘Wheel of spinning Energy’. Within our bodies are contained seven major energy centres. They are located within the body in front of the spinal column and are aligned vertically up and down the spine. Each wheel has a colour of the rainbow and vibrates to a musical note… .” (Inner Star Magazine)

3.Kundalini is at least 1000 years old occult practice. It involves bodily manifestations as a consequence for the “awakening of an individual’s Kundalini” and is related to, for example, Qigong (a Chinese occultic tradition).

4.Kundalini energy is typically described as a powerful energy source lying dormant in the form of a coiled serpent at the base of the human spine. When freed it reputedly has the capacity to effect great physical healings. Christina and Stanislov Grof, New Age authors of the book “The Stormy Search for the Self,” describe how the awakening of Kundalini energy can be triggered by an advanced spiritual teacher or guru. And how the awakening can bring up memories of past psychological traumas. The Grofs state that “individuals involved in this process might find it difficult to control their behavior; during power rushes of Kundalini energy, they often emit various involuntary sounds, and their bodies move in strange and unexpected patterns.

Among the most common manifestations … are unmotivated and unnatural laughter or crying, talking tongues … and imitating a variety of animal sounds and movements” (p. 78-79). The Grofs state that “careful study of the manifestations of Kundalini awakening confirm that this process, although sometimes very intense and shattering, is essentially healing” (citing Warren Smith by permission in an article for Spiritual Counterfeits Project entitled “HOLY LAUGHTER or Strong Delusion” (Fall, 1994, Vol. 19.2), p. 14).

Bill Johnson and his wife are fascinated by the “mystical” and “mystical experiences.” In his book, “When Heaven Invades Earth,” he has artfully twisted the definition of what an “anointing” is, the character and nature of the Holy Spirit, and the very attitude we are to have before a Holy God. His page titled “My Story-Glorious But Not Pleasant,” is a TEXTBOOK RENDITION of the kundalini awakening, replete with “unexplainable power began to pulsate through my body, seemingly just shy of electrocution.” He goes on to explain how it was like a thousand volts of electricity flowing through his body; his arms and legs shot out in silent explosions as if something was released through his hands and feet, and the more he tried to stop it, the worse it got. He declared that it was the most overwhelming experience of his life…”it was raw power…it was God.” (So sorry to say, Bill, it was not the God of the Bible, the Alpha and Omega.) None of this surprises me, as he states that “our hunger for Him in part must be seen in our lustful pursuit of spiritual gifts. That is His command!” I know exactly what my Bible says about spiritual gifts, but Bill sure can twist what is really said. This book is a sad commentary on why the church is in the state it is, as it promotes the attitude of a demanding, petulant child throwing a fit if it doesn’t get its “experience.”  BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818, GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

These Third Wave deceivers and seducers should have noted the characteristic Symptoms of Awakened Kundalini. Here is an excerpt from Devatma Shakti (Kundalini): Divine Powerby Swami Vishnu Tirtha.  Some characteristic symptoms of the awakened kundalini are here given below from Mahayoga Vijna, a treatise on the subject in Hindi by Shri Yognandji Mahrja, the author revered guru. They are illustrative and by no means exhaustive:-

1. When throbbing of mooladhar begins, the whole body shakes, involuntary kumbhak(filling in of the lungs with air) starts beyond control, breath is forcibly exhaled out, without volition deep inhaling and exhaling of breath starts and the body gets uncontrollable, know then that Kundalini has awakened. You then should give up your assertion and sit witnessing what happens.

2. When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions, semen passes out, think that the Kundalini Shakti has become active.

3. When your posture becomes fixed, uddiyan, jalendhar, and moolband has come involuntarily, your tongue reverts back or rises up towards the soft palate and the whole body becomes so active that you are unable to sit still, your hands and legs stretch out forcibly, you ought to know that the Divine power of the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

4. When your posture becomes fixed and sight is attracted toward the middle point of eyebrows, the eyeballs begin to revolve, you get automatic kewal-kumbhak, cessation of breath comes with no effort for inhaling or exhaling and the mind becomes vacant, void of all outward knowledge, understand that Mahmythe first born Shakti, the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

5. When you feel currents of Prnarising up your cerebrum within you, automatic repetition of Aum starts and the mind experiences waves after waves of blissful beatitude, think the Universal Mother Kundalini has come into action.

6. When different kinds of Nd become audible, in your spinal column you experience vibrations, feeling of bodily existence for the time being is lost, in other words you feel as if there is no body, everything looks vacant, your eyelids become closed and open not in spite of your efforts, electric-like currents seem flowing up and down the nerves and you have convulsions, know that Mahmy Kundalini has come into action.

7. When with the closing of eyelids your body falls to the ground, or begins to rotate like a grinding stone and breath comes not out, the body squatted on floor cross-legged begins to jump from place to place like a frog, or moves from place to place, or lies down like one dead, hands may not be lifted even if so desired, you feel contraction of nerves, you feel as if your life is passing away, the body undergoes convulsions like a dying fish, know that YogamayaKundalini has come into action.

8. When your mind gets influenced spiritually as if some spirit has taken possession of your body and under that influence different postures of yoga are involuntarily performed, without the least pain or fatigue and you feel increasingly buoyant, and simultaneously strange sort of breathing exercises start, think that the Divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

9. When no sooner you have sat with eyes closed than in an instant the body begins to show activity of throwing out limbs forcibly, deformed sounds are loudly uttered, your speech begins to utter sounds like those of animals, birds and frogs or of a lion or like those of jackals, dogs, tigers, fear inspiring and not pleasing to hear, understand that the Great Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

10. When you feel vibrations of prana at different stations inside your body and feel its flow wherever you fix your attention and nerves begin to show easy jerks like jerks of electricity as if passing through them, know that the Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

11. When all day and night you feel within your body some activity of prana and whenever you concentrate your mind, your body at once begins to shake or begins tossing and your mind remains filled with joy and bliss at all times, even when at call of nature, even during sleep you feel currents of prna rising up in your sahasrrand even in dreams you experience Her presence, know that the joy-inspiring Kundalini has come into action.

12. As soon as you sit for prayers your body begins to shake and in ecstasy of joy you begin to sing hymns in tones of music charming to hear and whose composition and poetry come out involuntarily, your hands giving a rhythmical clapping, and you pronounce languages you know not, but the sound ecstasizes your mind, know that the Goddess of speech, Saraswati, has awakened into action.

13. When you feel intoxicated without taking any drug, while walking your steps fall majestically or like one drunk and you are unable to do any other work and you like to remain mute and dislike speaking to or hearing others and you feel like one drunk of Divinity, know that your Atma Shakti Kundalini, the power of Self, has come into action.

14. While walking, when your mind is filled with an impulse to walk faster and your feet begin to move a running, you feel your body light like air and do not feel fatigued even having walked long enough, you feel buoyant and joyful, you are not unhappy even in dreams, you can keep the balance of your mind undisturbed in all ups and downs, and you acquire an inexhaustible energy for work, know that the Brahma Shakti Kundalini has come into action.

15. When you are in meditation you see visions divine and fall in a dreamy state of mind, have divine smells, see divine figures, feel divine tastes, hear divine sounds and experience divine touch and receive instructions from Gods, then understand that the divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

16. When you are in meditation, future unfolds its secrets to you or the hidden meaning of scriptures, Vedas and Vedntashine in your understanding, all doubts vanish, you acquire an insight into the abstruse meaning of the works on spiritual science even at their first glance, you acquire strange powers of oratory and feel not the need of approaching even Brahma, the creator himself, for knowledge and you acquire self-confidence, understand then that Kundalini the bestower of siddhis (occult powers) has come into action.

17. When seated for meditation your sight becomes fixed on the mid of eyebrows, your tongue rises up for Khechari, breath stops altogether and mind plunges into the ocean of bliss, shambhavi mudr operates and you experience the pleasure of savikalpa samdhi, know that subtle power of Kundalini is in action.

18. When at morning and evening hours punctually and automatically your body becomes charged with such of the divine influences, and body, mind and prnabecome overpowered by Her, know that the Goddess Kundalini is rightly functioning.  (See http://discerningtheworld2.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/choo-thomas-heaven-is-so-real-is-it-really/ )

In summary The jerking in Toronto, Brownsville or any other revival place is not a sign of the Holy Spirit but of a Kundalini demon which infiltrated Christianity mainly in North America through Rodney Howard Browne, THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

The fact is the bible never talks about “jerking” being an attribute of the Holy Spirit but rather it states but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

THE KEY WORD HERE IS SELF-CONTROL AND WHEN YOU ARE POSSESSED BY A DEMONIC KUNDALINI SPIRIT THERE IS NO CONTROL AND THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG AND AGAINST SCRIPTURE

And anybody who has gotten involved with these Third Wave deceivers will testify that longsuffering and kindness are not demonstrated by the leaders or followers but rather arrogance, pride and intolerance and Bill Johnson is a classical example

The Bible teaches that God allows a “drunken spirit” on people who are under His judgment and about to be destroyed — drunk but not with wine — the same way He sent a deluding demon to falsely prophesy to Ahab.

This is the hidden understanding of all these strange manifestations at Vineyard meetings turned into Kansas City barnyards. God is allowing the Enemy to mock the people who ‘no longer tremble at His word” with grotesque manifestations.

Self control has to do with a lot of these God-sent but evil manifestations.

The spirit of prophecy is subject to the prophets, is also a part of self control.

But to apply it to speaking is a problem because of so many of the teachings on our lack of control over the tongue. In terms of the NAR, the lack of volition in some of these animalistic outbursts during praise and worship is a sign that this person is not of God, and God is allowing them to manifest as a sign to anyone who understands the Bible enough to identify it.

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BEFORE YOU

my fear efore you

He Opened Their Understanding

And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.  Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,  “and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. “And you are witnesses of these things.  “Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.” Luke 24:45

Unlike others of our day both Christian and non-Christian, Jesus Christ didn’t deny the Scriptures, the Old Testament, but used it and opened the understanding of His disciples, the remnant, that they might comprehend Scripture including the Promise of His Father to send power from on high (Joel 2:28-32)! The idea that Scriptures, the Old Testament, is not the inspired word of God, is from the pits of hell for as Paul told Timothy:

But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.  But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,  that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:13-17

Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Timothy 4:2-4

We use scriptures to examine the fables of evil men who cannot endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they heap up for themselves teachers; and they turn their ears away from the truth.

Unlike many false prophets, preachers and teachers today, Jesus Christ was not a liar, a deceiver, a controller or an abuser. He was not only a true man of God, a son of God, but a man of integrity! The definition of integrity: 1. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. 2. The state of being unimpaired soundness. 3. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.  In other words He was nothing like the many false Christian leaders we have today especially in the “Third Wave” who are demonized and need deliverance and true salvation!

It’s to be noted:

“The first wave was the Pentecostal Movement, the second, the Charismatics, and now the Third Wave is joining them. The Third Wave being, of course, those mainstream evangelicals, now aware of the possibility of the power of God, but not wanting to identify with Pentecostalism.” (C. Peter Wagner, as quoted in The Trojan Horse, p. 244)  “While its proponents claim old-fashioned Pentecostalism as its heritage, the doctrine of the Vineyard movement’s Third Wave theology, as well as that of their up-and-coming stepchild, Promise Keepers, represents far more. It is a doctrine of extra-biblical extremism that focuses on seeking sensually-oriented experiences and utterances directly from Almighty God. Most often, the “prophet” names the individual these utterances are directed to and he sees visions in which personal appearances by Jesus and other well-known Bible characters are not uncommon. Outlandish and unbelievable extremes, practices and conduct, all in the name of the moving of the Holy Spirit, have sprung from the aforementioned, humble, early practices of Promise Keepers’ mother church.”

“Third Wave Vineyard tacticians, as well as Promise Keepers’ public relations departments have perfected invasive techniques in order to reach into otherwise biblically balanced denominations and infiltrate them with this doctrinal “leaven” by refocusing their spiritually naive victims on the propaganda calling for unity, harmony and the church’s need for “real men.” This is a well-planned, strategically designed conspiracy to doctrinally invade those of extremely dissimilar theological positions. Their hope is that these target groups will swallow the hook of “Doctrine is no big deal. Let’s just love Jesus and unite for Christ.” Their plan is to bring to bear on all groups—Pentecostal and non-Pentecostal, Protestant and non-Protestant—the teaching and extra-biblical  philosophy that enslaves, excites and drives them with an evangelistic fervor. Thus an influx of Vineyard-type speakers and Third Wave-influenced ministers and materials has been invading otherwise conservative Bible-based churches on the false and deceptive premise of Promise Keepers.” (Phil Arms, op.cit., p.245-246,)

Many of the Third Wave leaders talk about “Christian wealth transfer but practice an ongoing third wave demon transfer” says Don Koenig of  thepropheticyears.com[i].

The whole idea that there will be a wealth transfer from the world to the Church is preposterous. What do they think the world will be doing while we take away their wealth and what in the world would we do with the wealth of the world anyway? Get rid of poverty? Where does it say the Church will do that in scripture? Actually these people will take new found wealth to build more and larger circus tents for their “third wave” freak shows?

There is no such concept of a wealth transfer to the Church in scripture it is totally contrary to what the scripture teaches.

These “third wave” self appointed, apostles, prophets and healers are proud presumptuous deranged people or they are greedy con artists and liars.

The “third wave” apostles, false prophets and healers appeal to people’s flesh and that is the only reason they have a following. They certainly do not hear the true gospel from these people and they do receive any sound Christian teaching.

These are the people Jesus was talking about in Matthew chapter 7: 21-22. They tell Jesus did we not prophecy in your name and cast out Devils in your name and do great works? But, Jesus will say to them depart from me you workers of inequity I never knew you

James Jacob Prasch in his article “The Delusional World Of Mark Stibbe & St Andrews Chorleywood[ii] “give us a sordid glimpse of the deception and demonization in the Third Wave:

Welcome to St. Andrew’s Chorleywood, The UK Platform For The Promotion Of Sexually Perverted Deceivers From Paul Cain To Todd Bentley.

After Its Latest Fad The Question Must Be Asked:  Is St. Andrews Merely A Spiritually And Doctrinally Deranged Church Or A Lunatic Asylum With A Cross On The Roof?

It was the predecessor of  Mark Stibbe, Anglican vicar at St. Andrew’s Chorley Wood , David Pytches, who promoted the ‘Kansas City Prophets’, (now proven by scripture and history to be false prophets), with his wild book ‘Some Said It Thundered’ in which he lauded Bob Jones and Paul Cain.

The fanciful false prophetic predictions of a great British revival for October of that year made in the Name of The Lord by Jones, Cain and their pastor Mike Bickel and the late John Wimber made in August of 1990 came to nothing. More mosques have been built in Britain than churches in the last 18 years since their promised ‘latter day rain’ and as with the failed Alpha courses the UK has only witnessed steadily increasing moral and spiritual decline including a Church of England headed by a member of a Druid sect and favoring same sex marriages and the lesbian and homosexual ordination urged by Desmond Tutu.

Pytches, Sandy Miller, Nicky Gumbel, Terry Virgo, Gerald Coates, and RT Kendall all quickly jumped on the ‘Kansas City’ bandwagon, but the assured revival never materialized; the diametric opposite transpired instead. Lakeland meetings were also mimicked in Dudley, England and predictably endorsed by Gerald  Coates who tried to copy the failed Pensacola revival in London.

Lakeland is the most recent sequel but Kansas City was the prequel. Indeed, the gross distortion of The Book of Joel by the Kansas City false prophets, by means of abandoning biblical exegesis and embracing pure Gnosticism in the mystical subjectivist interpretation of Joel, saw the Babylonian invaders whom God will destroy retro-identified as ‘The Triumphant Church’. The participants at the Docklands fiasco saw the locusts of Joel’s apocalyptic vision identified as the demon cohorts of hell in Revelation chapter 9, re-identified as the ‘Kingdom Now’/ Manifest sons participants in the conference. The mishandling and distortion of scripture was religious madness that set the stage for the next failed revival from Toronto, Canada led by John & Carol Arnott. This was likewise followed by the demise of its American clone at Brownsville Assemblies of God that ended in a massive church split and public financial scandal, but likewise no revival despite an avalanche of big talk and hollow promises.

Indeed, as one who himself believes in the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit when practiced scripturally, the consecutive failure of these counterfeit moves of Gods to deliver what they falsely promised was predictable, and in fact inevitable. Abject theology leads to abject spirituality. Doctrinal bankruptcy equates to spiritual bankruptcy.

Meanwhile, the Kansas City False Prophets hyped and promulgated by St. Andrew’s Chorleywood to no end have publicly fallen from grace. Bob Jones was debunked as a sexual predator with vulnerable women while Paul Cain was publicly disclosed to be a drunken pervert with a life long history of alcoholism and homosexuality.

Well David Pytches – Thunder indeed!

Elim’s Ian Bilby, and his worship leader, the cheer leaders of the Toronto deception in New Zealand were likewise found in publicly exposed serial adultery with as many as 20 women.

No revival ever materialized from Kansas City, which was the first link of the twisted chain of carnal and demonically inspired folly that has so discredited, damaged, and divided the church courtesy of St. Andrews Chorleywood who championed these false prophets with David Pytches and his ludicrous book.

Neither did any revival emerge from Toronto or Pensacola. Those freak shows are long over as is their attempted UK imitations in Sunderland and Marsham Street, London. Despite this, just as the Elim  denomination continues to try to resuscitate the Toronto failure in its magazine, under the leadership of Mark Stibbe, St. Andrews Chorleywood continues promote John & Carol Arnott at their “School of International Ministry”. They seem to teach everything from “dream interpretation” to biblical groundless nonsense that is essentially New Age practice absurdly  put into Christian jargon.

Now Mark Stibbe has promoted the ‘Third Wave’ sequel of Toronto and Pensacola in Lakeland, Florida . Lakeland pastor Stephen Strader admits it is the continuation of the Toronto and Pensacola phenomena.

According to various news reports, The Florida District Attorney believed Pastor Stephen Strader to be as guilty as his brother Daniel, but obtained a RICO conviction on his brother Daniel, now in prison until 2036 after defrauding elderly Christians out of  $3 million dollars. Strader was convicted as a professional racketeer under RICO laws. RICO anti racketeering legislation is used in the prosecution and sentencing of professional gangsters engaged in various forms of organized criminal activity. These are the Strader brothers.

Strader brought in a criminally convicted Canadian homosexual pedophile named Todd Bentley to conduct his counterfeit revival. Bentley was imprisoned for the homosexual molestation of a seven year old before being commissioned to lead the Lakeland pandemonium. Bentley has meanwhile filed for a separation from his wife which by Canadian law is the first step to divorce. Meanwhile, it is revealed that Bentley has a history of adultery excluding him from ministry that has been covered up and has once again become involved in a yet another improper extra marital relationship. Yet it is this same Bentley that Wendy Alec of the so called ‘God Channel’ has defended labeling those critical of him and his carnal antics as being of the devil, and it is this same Lakeland hoax that Mark Stibbe and St. Andrews Chorleywood promulgated aggressively.

Bentley was exposed on national TV in the USA on the ABC Nightline broadcast for being unable to medically document a single claimed healing. Some of those pronounced healed at Lakeland have however since been medically documented as deceased, and a statement by Arnold Palmer hospital likewise contradicts claims of a resurrection from the dead as bogus.

That the ‘Fruit of The Holy Spirit’ according to Galatians is ‘ekreitei’ “Self Control” not the lack of, never mattered to proponents of Toronto or Pensacola. That such Fruit is also ‘gentleness’ does not matter either as Bentley kicks old ladies in the stomach and baptizes people in the name of ‘Bam’. Christ’s own clear and unambiguous warning to avoid those like Bentley who claim His physical return before the ‘parousia’ and revelatory  visitations from  a healing angel named ‘Emma’ (there are no manifestations of angelic beings as women or as agents of healing in God’s Word) could hardly matter to someone like Mark Stibbe.

It is well know by police and social services that pedophiles frequently profess a religious conversion in prison as a parole stunt and then seek work in scout groups, schools, youth camps and churches in   order to get near children. Although Bentley fits this profile, we do not have any evidence of any recent homosexual pedophilia by this self-disfigured heretical freak, however current verified information certainly exists in the public media about his taking his wife to court for a separation and his more recent history of adultery.

But even if he did undergo an authentic regeneration and become a Christian, many ask why he would then say The Lord led him to cover his body with an array of disfiguring tattoos that give him the appearance of a rather freakish goon? Even if his sexual perversion was prior to becoming a Christian as he claims, that is not true of his openly confessed mentor, sexual predator Bob Jones, whom Bentley lauds and endorses. Jones preyed upon women sexually in lewd acts as a ‘prophet’. Why would anyone serving Jesus endorse the ministry of a sexually immoral preacher who misused Christian ministry to perpetrate his perversions and who according to The New Testament has no biblical right to be in  ministry as he is not above reproach?

These are the deranged antics of Lakeland we are speaking of and these are the kinds of people we are talking about; an assortment of perverts, swindlers, drunks, homosexuals, demonstrable false prophets, and even a tattooed criminally convicted pedophile child molester turned adulterer filing separation procedures against his wife. This is the whacky world of Mark Stibbe.

It’s evident from their agenda, their words, and their deception the leaders of the Third Wave don’t have the best interests of the sheep at hand.  They are happily filled with greed, pride, lies, and false doctrine. Those who follow these Svengalis…those who have been preyed upon and duped with lies are the ones, are also under the influence of demons. The leaders of these insidious movements such as The Third Wave are tools of the Devil. They have an evil nature and possess extreme craftiness. Whether delusional or just plain evil, whether they believe their own lies or see no lies, just profit and power…they are the masterminds. These hypocritical liars spread demons, to those vulnerable enough to believe them. The bible tells us about them:

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,  speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,  1 Timothy 4:1-2

For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,  whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.  One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”  This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.  To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.  They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. Titus 1:10-16

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Seeker Sensitive “Church”

DHA HALF TRUTH IS A LIE WHICH LEADS TO DECEPTION

A continual emphasis on a certain truth in the bible becomes a lie and leads to deception. There are aspects of what false ones teach which are true and valid but they are not the only truths in the bible!

This brings me to the two great movements of deception in Christendom today
1) Seeker Sensitive “Church” movement
2) THIRD WAVE

Both movements don’t have a high regard for scriptures as being central to the Christian faith and experience and hence are dangerous and lead into apostasy. One is of Baptist origin and the other Pentecostal

Many Americans especially blacks loved martin Luther king the adulterer who was never a born again Christian but a liberal Christian just like Andy Stanley the son of THE Southern Baptist preacher Charles Stanley!

Philip Lee writes,

What Andy Stanley is Teaching This Month and Why it Matters

I’ve listened to Andy Stanley’s most recent Sunday sermon three times now.  I watched the 9:00 AM service live online.  I listened to the download made available by North Point Community Church, which came from the second service and contains a few minor differences compared to the sermon I watched live.  Finally, I listened to Chris Rosebrough’s review of the sermon in the February 16 edition of Fighting for the Faith.

Why? I think what’s happening at North Point this month is going to have long-lasting effects on American, and even global, Christianity.

Andy Stanley is easily one of the top five most influential pastors in America, and maybe top 2-3.  It’s impossible to quantify such things of course, but it is easily seen if you pay attention to the broad landscape of American Evangelicalism.  It’s no secret that pastors around the country duplicate Stanley’s sermons and series, and there have been documented cases of pastors plagiarizing Stanley word-for-word.  Thousands and thousands of pastors around America and around the world look to Stanley as a leader and follow his teaching and methods.

Stanley is currently teaching a five week series titled Brand: New.  Stanley’s assumption is that Christianity has been corrupted by “Temple Model” thinking since the days of Constantine.  He defines the Temple Model as being controlled by sacred places, sacred texts, sacred men, and sincere followers.

His definition of the true Jesus religion comes from half a verse in Galatians.  In the ESV, Galatians 5:6 in its entirety reads, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.”  In his sermon series, Stanley has repeatedly quoted the NIV’s translation of the second sentence of the verse which reads, “The only thing that matters is faith expressing itself through love.”

Stanley is attempting to build a doctrine of Christianity on half of one verse.  And his version of Christianity is one in which it doesn’t matter what a person believes or does, as long as they love their neighbors.

In other words, Stanley is embracing theological liberalism.  Actually it might be better to say he’s no longer hiding his theological liberalism.

Three years ago Al Mohler asked, following an Andy Stanley sermon, if the megachurch is the new liberalism.  In that sermon, Stanley told the story of two men in his church involved in a homosexual relationship.  One man was divorced, the other still married.  Stanley told the congregation that the men were forbidden from serving in the church, not because they were in a homosexual relationship, but because one was still married and therefore committing adultery.  Many people questioned at the time if Stanley was signaling his approval of gay Christianity – the idea that a person can be actively involved in a homosexual relationship and a Christian.

When I first read about what Stanley was teaching in the Brand: New series I thought he was going to come out as gay affirming.  After listening to the first and third sermons in the series I’m not convinced he’s going to make that explicit at this time, but I do believe he is laying the groundwork to do this in the future.  Based on comments made this past Sunday, it does seem likely that Stanley is going to endorse female leadership in the church in week five of the series.

All of this is significant because of Stanley’s influence.

If Stanley openly embraces liberalism in the name of bringing more people to Jesus, thousands of others will follow. It should be noted that liberals have been making the same argument for more than two centuries, and that every church that has embraced liberalism is now dead or dying, but the arguments keep being made and people keep buying into them.

Liberalism has always denied essential doctrines of the Christian faith in order to make the faith more palatable to unbelievers.  The problem is that if people don’t believe in the God who has revealed in Himself in Scripture, if they don’t believe in the Jesus revealed in Scripture, they are not in Christ, no matter what they call themselves.

The seeker-sensitive movement, in which Stanley is a major player, seeks to make Christianity as accessible as possible to the largest number of people possible.  Up to now, most seeker-sensitive churches have remained theologically sound on paper while functioning as liberal churches.  They’ve managed to keep their feet in both worlds.

I think that’s about to change.

Stanley has been always been zeroed in on what’s happening in the culture.  Twenty years ago when he started North Point in the heart of the Bible Belt, he could not have survived by openly embracing liberalism.  The Bible Belt culture simply would not have tolerated a pastor who openly endorsed homosexual Christianity, female pastors, a denial of the Biblical account of creation, or any of the other hot-button issues of our day.

Things have changed.  Even among professing Christians today, very few still hold to those positions.  Stanley now sees that it is more costly to deny that a homosexual can be involved in homosexual sin and be a Christian than it is to embrace gay Christianity.  Even in the Bible Belt, it will be more costly to deny evolution than embrace it.

So, he will say that it doesn’t matter what a person believes as long as they love.

It was very telling, and honestly shocking, that it in this past Sunday’s sermon he indicated that it didn’t matter that Arius believed Jesus wasn’t eternal.  For 1700 years virtually every branch of religion that calls itself Christian; Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestantism has agreed that Arius was a heretic who was outside the Christian faith.  Stanley said Sunday that it was no big deal.  It doesn’t matter what a person believes, as long as they love.

The problem is that Jesus and the Apostles repeatedly warned against those who would proclaim a different gospel or a different Jesus.  A Jesus who is not eternally God, as Arius taught, is most certainly a different Jesus than the one revealed in Scripture.  The blood of a different Jesus can not atone for our sins.

I do believe that God’s grace is such that those who are unknowingly caught up in a false system can be saved in spite of what they’re being taught if they recognize their sinfulness and trust in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins.  But woe to those who preach a different gospel.  It’s ironic that Stanley is using a verse from Galatians as the foundation for his series.  In Galatians 1:6-9 Paul wrote:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. 

The immediate context of Paul’s letter to the Galatians was the Judaizers attempting to make circumcision a requirement for salvation.  Stanley is clearly not doing that.  But, in saying that the only thing that matters at the end of the day is how well we’ve loved our neighbors, he is coming dangerously close to preaching a different gospel and putting people back under the yoke of the Law, if he hasn’t crossed the line.

The summary of the Law and the Prophets, according to Jesus in Matthew 22:37-40, is “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Loving your neighbor as you love yourself is Law, and the Law cannot save you unless you keep it perfectly from the day you’re born until the day you die.  The problem?  We’re all born dead in trespasses and sins and cannot keep the Law.  We’re all guilty.  So telling people it doesn’t matter what they believe as long as they love others is actually putting people back under the yoke of the Law.

Should we love God? Absolutely! Should we love our neighbors? Absolutely!  But if we try to do so without being given new life by God’s grace through faith in the Jesus revealed to us in Scripture, we remain dead in our trespasses and sins and children of God’s wrath.  There is no salvation without repentance and faith in the true Jesus.

I don’t yet know what Stanley is going to say in the final two sermons of this series.  I think we all need to be paying attention though.  Stanley’s influence is such that if he goes off the rails of orthodoxy and into apostasy, American Christianity as we know it will change forever.  I don’t think I’m exaggerating.

Source: By Philip Lee, What Andy Stanley is Teaching This Month and Why it Matters, 24 Emmaus Rd, http://24emmausroad.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/what-andy-stanley-is-teaching-this.html, Published 17/02/2015. (Accessed 19/02/2015.)

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THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53
THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics
Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg
FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs
Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

PREACHING LIES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1jM
BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Zn
JESUS IS GOD  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1BH
YOU MUST BELIEVE GOD http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Fc
A HEALTH AND WEALTH CHRISTIAN 
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JESUS HEALS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-27K
BELIEVE IN MIRACLES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2cA
SUPER VICTORY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-29y
BETHEL TEMPLE   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-29r
SOAKING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2a4
SOWING AND REAPING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2ba
Free Christian Ebooks http://walthope.tripod.com
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THE FLEECERS

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THE FLEECERS

Godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content. But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and harmful lust which drowns men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows ( 1 Timothy 6:6-10 )

A notable fleecer, South African Pentecostal Evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne, a white supremacist in theology, who immigrated with all his brothers and parents to United States  became a naturalized American and taught that “sheep needed to be fleeced or they would have too much hair and could not see where they are going.. It was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep had been credited with bringing the laughter revival to America. But from what really happened in Carpenter’s Home Church in 1993 and 1994 and its devastating effect on the community including the robbing, raping and murdering of the sheep, was not much of a revival. And in the end the church died and is no more! Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

Many fleecers peddle theological and spiritual poison. They bind Christ to the Almighty dollar bill and tie the gospel narrative to the riches and filthy lucre that they promise you is coming to you if only you became a Christian and gave them your seed offering.These  fleecers agree with Rodney Howard Browne’s assertion that it’s the duty of the pastors to fleece the sheep and that God alone can correct the pastors and no one else! Of course they teach “Touch not my anointed” and “Judge not!”

The only people who get rich from any prosperity form of preaching is “the fleecers” – TV Evangelist and Preachers. The dumb sheep who give to these so called “anointed ones” remain poor and deceived because in the last one hundred years God never gave supernaturally billions of dollars to any of His people because they lack integrity and their lust would destroy them. And very few of the TV preachers in America have any integrity! But God’s word is unchanging:
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.  By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.
For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment; and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)-  then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment,  and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord. 2 Peter 2:1-11

It’s is a fact that some of the greatest corruption and perversion today is found in the house of God amongst Christians, not pagans. Not only do we have pedophiles who are priests or pastors, but we have rapists and thieves who masquerade as men of God. We find that many Christian evangelists and other ministers did not care for individuals but rather for the building up of their own empire. They are more interested in selling their products to their sheep then ministering to the sheep.  The establishments of such ministers have become corrupt these days because the Babylonian system has pervaded their establishments. They have become money changers who create idol worshipers. The ministry of the Holy Ghost is perfect but the establishments through which they perform their ministries have become corrupt.

Many churches and ministries  have become money making business establishments whose pastors and evangelists use flattering words, and have a cloak of covetousness to seek their own best interest, not the best interest of the sheep. Their desire is to fleece the sheep, not to bless the sheep. They covet offerings from the sheep they are supposed to serve and tend for. Evangelists expect offerings of those people that have been blessed by their ministries. They make elaborate advertisements for their products and spend little time ministering effectively to the sheep. The pastors are mostly concerned about filling their own coffers than those of the sheep.

Many ministers give long sermons to their congregations and lead them in long worship services on Sundays. According to these ministers, ministry means giving messages, conducting worship services, extracting tithes and offerings, and praying for the sick in their churches. They forgot that  ministry means taking care of the sheep, ministering to the poor saints and widows and edifying the faith of the weak sheep during their trials and tribulations.

We have many preachers who are devoid of power preach the gospel in flowery languages and exhibit their oratory but not in the power of God. Oratory takes the place of the power of God. Gospel is preached from the church pulpits as a matter of routine, at times, mostly from texts already prepared.   In the churches of today, the glory of men rules the roost. Men with good family background or rich men are honored when commonplace people are shown the backseats. The churches do not call “poor saints” or evangelists with poor financial background for giving messages but prefer only “renowned” ones.

These days, we find the ministers of God covet “service” from the people whom they are supposed to serve. They boast that they had resigned from their secular jobs to serve God but expect offerings from the people whom they serve. They do not work with their own hands even in their own offices established by them for running their ministries. They want “service” from the staff working in their offices.   Recently,  a T.V. Evangelist USA preached a message of “prosperity” to his sheep.  He quoted Jesus’ words in Luke 4:18: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor…”.  This preacher replaced the word “gospel” with the word “prosperity” and preached that prosperity should be preached to the poor so that the poor may become rich. And then we have Evangelists who mainly preach on healing and miracles and not on cross-bearing and discipleship. The apostles during the New Testament period preached the gospel to the people with the result that the sick and the demon-possessed were delivered. They did not focus on healing and miracle ministries. But, miracles and signs followed them. They did not follow miracles and signs. God’s word is unchanging:

For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning.  For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them.  But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: “A dog returns to his own vomit,” and, “a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire.” 2 Peter 2:20-22

There is an aspect of the prosperity gospel that keeps the minds of the people on the material and not the spiritual, and is leading many away from the truth, therefore causing many to focus on the things of the world and not the things of God! Do not be fooled by these false teachers my brethren, who by covetousness will exploit you with deceptive words ( 2 Peter 2:3)! This message applies to many pastors, TV ministers, evangelist, and preachers who are fleecing the flock. This is a word for you. And he said to them, it is written, my house shall be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves (Matthew 21:13).

Stop preaching prosperity, and start confronting sin, and the need that all must repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!(Matthew 3:2 ) stop using scripture to fatten your pockets, and shepherd your church, because, thus says the lord God: behold, I am against the shepherds, and I will require my flock at their hand; I will cause them to cease feeding the sheep, and the shepherds shall feed themselves no more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouths, that they no longer be food for them (Ezekiel 34:10) brethren, please wake up! And run from these ravenous wolves (Matthew 7:15)!

The coming of Jesus is on the horizon and the world is in chaos and yet the prosperity gospel is still being preached, especially by your TV evangelist. They are very cunning in imparting the sowing of seeds (money) into their messages (subtly) when the scripture that they are using does not pertain to money!! You may have been following them for years and they may seem charming to you, but remember the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it? (Jeremiah 17:9 ) today there are many ravenous lawless wolves not doing the will of the Father living lifestyles that you who struggle financially, support.

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness! (Matthew 7:15)

For there are many who are following and are being deceived by false prophets and teachers :but there will be false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber (2 Peter 2:1-3 )

There is a famous pastor with a huge following, who absolutely does not preach the true gospel of Christ! People are blindly following a man who is tickling their itching ears and has turned them away from the true gospel of Christ ( 2 Timothy 4:3-4)   It was so sad to watch the congregation so fixed on every word that was spoken, but was not feeding their souls the true spiritual nourishment they needed. Only the true word of God can satisfy our souls. We cannot believe every spirit, but we must test the spirits, whether they are from God ( john 4:1 ) only in our time with God in prayer will He reveal this to his children, so that they are not deceived.

We need to understand what Jesus meant when he said: because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it (Matthew 7:14) many will not find it if they continue to follow these men/women blindly! Just because  a pastor or TV preacher has a huge following means that he is leading you to the kingdom. Spend quality time with God(father) Jesus(son) and the Holy Spirit each day, ask God for wisdom (James 1:5 ) so that you can discern and not follow them into darkness. Blessed is the man to whom the lord does not impute iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no deceit (Psalm 32:2)

While false demonic preachers preach on how to get great material wealth by giving money to them, do you appreciate that Solomon got super super rich by an accident?
Yes he asked for wisdom to rule over god’s people and discern and give out justice, not money and god gave him much much more including a super abundance of wealth

Solomon didn’t tithe to get rich and probably didn’t tithe to stay rich. And he was also a great adulterer and whore monger who didn’t repent of these sins. He is probably in hell not heaven because he made God mad at him many times!

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

An Overview of Religious Financial Fraud http://www.scribd.com/doc/24336837

http://www.benedictionblogson.com/2010/12/03/daystar-founder-marcus-lamb-files-countersuit-against-whistleblower-employees/

THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT REVIVALS

AITHE PRESENT THIRD WAVE REVIVAL IS A COUNTERFEIT

Smith Wigglesworth 1939 Prophecy

In 1939 World War II was about ready to break out. Lester Sumrall was in his twenties. He was working in a Bible school in England and he got to know Smith Wigglesworth. He read his books and heard about his ministry. He had been going over and visiting Smith Wigglesworth in his home for several years. Every other week he would visit him. Smith Wigglesworth would also have Brother Sumrall to speak at his conventions.

One day, Lester Sumrall went to tell Smith Wigglesworth that a police officer had come to his door and told him that everyone who was not an English citizen would have to leave the country. Hitler was threatening to come across the English Channel, so all foreigners had to leave.

The young Sumrall explained to the elder minister, “I came to say goodbye to you. I appreciate all that you have put in to me.” Now, here was a young minister in his twenties,and here was a man in his eighties ho wanted to give his gift to somebody.

Smith Wigglesworth told the young minister, “I want to bless you.” So he held him and said,”Lord, everything that I have, bless him with it! Give it to him!” Smith Wigglesworth started weeping as he pulled Brother Sumrall in closer.

“He was a big man, and as he held me close into him, his tears rolled off his face and they would hit me in my face,” Brother Sumrall explained.

Wigglesworth cried saying, “I probably won’t see you again now. My job is almost finished.”

As he continued to pray, he cried “I see it, I see it!”

Brother Sumrall asked, “What do you see, what do you see?

He said, “I see a healing revival coming right after World War II. It’ll be so easy to get people healed. I see it! I see it! I won’t be here for it, but you will be.” And there was a healing revival right after the war.

He continued to prophesy, “I see another one. I see people of all different denominations being filled with the Holy Ghost.” That was the Charismatic Revival. God raised up people during that era, like the Full Gospel Businessmen.

Then Brother Wigglesworth continued, “I see another move of God. I see auditoriums full of people, coming with notebooks. There will be a wave of teaching on faith and healing.” We did experience that wave he saw, and we call it the Word of Faith movement.

Then he prophesied, “After that, after the third wave,” he started sobbing. “I see the last day revival that’s going to usher in the precious fruit of the earth. It will be the greatest revival this world has ever seen! It’s going to be a wave of the gifts of the Spirit. The ministry gifts will be flowing on this planet earth. I see hospitals being emptied out, and they will bring the sick to the churches where they allow the Holy Ghost to move

ANY REVIVAL MUST INCLUDE SIGNS AND WONDERS JUST LIKE IN JESUS DAY WHO SPENT HALF OF HIS TIME DELIVERING PEOPLE FROM DEMONS. SEE AWESOME http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2pz

Matthew 8:16 When evening had come, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed. And He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were sick,

THE DEVIL ISN’T STUPID HE IS AWARE OF Smith Wigglesworth1939 Prophecy SO HE MADE A COUNTERFEIT THIRD WAVE REVIVAL. HOWEVER THE DEVIL DOESN’T CAST OUT DEMONS FOR 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

AND THAT IS WHY THE DEMONIC COUNTERFEIT THIRD WAVE REVIVAL AMONGST US TODAY DOESN’T PRACTICE DELIVERANCE MINISTRIES – I HAVE BEEN TO MANY THIRD WAVE REVIVALS AND HAVE SEEN NO DELIVERANCE FROM DEMONS BUT I HAVE SEEN MANY GET DEMONS FROM THE SO CALLED REVIVALS. IT IS ALSO FULL OF FALSE PROPHESIES BY FALSE PROPHETS AS WELL AS UNREPENTED DIVORCEES, ADULTERERS AND THIEVES! 

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church

LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp

GOLD DUST  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg

FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9

HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/

An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm

TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu

STACEY CAMPBELL THE WITCH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VIR82MGqE

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

ENEMIES

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ENEMIES OF THE CROSS OF CHRIST

Philippians 3:17    Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern.
18    For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19    whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame — who set their mind on earthly things.
20    For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21    who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body, according to the working by which He is able even to subdue all things to Himself.

Very few of today’s preachers and evangelists talk about the many Christians who are the enemies of the cross of Christ: whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame — who set their mind on earthly things. Rather many of them talk about how you can have all your earthly dreams and desires fulfilled in God and be a financially super rich successful Christian and not about how you can meet the  needs the spiritual and physical needs of the poor and needy brethren! They preach a gospel of self rather than the gospel of Christ.  They don’t preach on:

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you? — unless indeed you are disqualified.

1SAMUEL:15:22: And Samuel said, “Has the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams. (ESV)

NO MORE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1SH

ELEVATION CHURCH http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Rq

THE BIG MISTAKE  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Jc

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry

THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NATIONAL AWAKENING http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

BI-SEXUAL SCOUNDREL JIM-BAKKER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/211951342

2014 THE YEAR OF ENEMIES IN MEGA CHURCHES  http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-enemies

MEN OF INTEGRITY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-12p

Pastor Ron Carpenter IS OFF THE WALL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Xa

JOEL OSTEEN REBUKES http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ob

JOSEPH PRINCE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wa

Beth Moore – False Teacher http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wj

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp

GOLD DUST  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm

GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://goo.gl/GjQJ3  http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

APOSTATE RICK-WARREN http://www.scribd.com/doc/136880990/

Rick Warren’s Son Had Ricks Warren’s Demons  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2kCWywY5QU

Rick Warren’s Son Commits Suicide http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-rwsuicid

RICK WARREN EXPOSED BY DR. PAT HOLIDAY
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30458758/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/62058989/

http://www.scribd.com/doc/106762970

THE ARROGANT TBN’S PAUL CROUCH   http://www.scribd.com/doc/82784017

THE ENEMY

KARL I Am The Enemy Of?

“In that day the LORD of hosts will be for a crown of glory and a diadem of beauty to the Remnant of His people, for a spirit of justice to him who sits in judgment, and for strength to those who turn back the battle at the gate.” Isaiah 28:5-6

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.  “You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?  “Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. “A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Matthew 7:15-18

TV Evangelist and pastor Benny Hinn stated: ‘You cannot win attacking the servants of the Lord, no matter who they are or what they’ve done …if the anointing ever comes upon a man, don’t touch that man, even if he turns away from God, and serves the devil, Don’t touch him. You are in deep, serious danger.’ 

True shepherds of the flock of God serve as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; nor as being lords over those entrusted to them, but being examples to the flock. Unfortunately as seen by the many religious scandals in America, true shepherds are very hard to find.  Jesus clearly told us to beware of false prophets, who come to us in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves? It is to be noted that false prophets and false teachers will not appear to be false. The Word of God in 2 Corinthians 11:13 tells us that these leaders will appear to be righteous men who appear to radiate the light of Jesus.  They will be so camouflaged that many will follow them.  But that should not be?  Jesus said that His sheep would know His voice and another they will not follow.  We need to listen to the voice of Jesus daily as He speaks to us through the voice of His Holy Spirit.  Then when the false prophet comes along stealing, killing and destroying, we will not be led astray because we will know that the voice is another voice and not the voice of the great shepherd, Jesus.

False prophets will teach false doctrine such as they are the anointed ones and are not to be touched by any one but God!  One of the most common errors found in Christianity today is that particular persons, usually pastors or evangelists, are somehow more “anointed” than the average Christian. This teaching often coincides with a veiled threat in the form of “touch not mine [the Lord’s] anointed,” (I Ch. 16:22, Ps. 105:15).  While Jesus told us “But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ, and you are all brethren (Matthew 23:8)

Many prominent pastors and evangelists today make the claim that because “souls” are being saved and “healings” take place in their meetings, that this somehow validates their ministry. While these things may be well and good, they are no indication of “divine” sanction. A.A. Allen was a drunkard, Jimmy Swaggart a whoremonger, Jim Bakker a thief, Larry Lea a prevaricator, and Robert Tilton a charlatan – yet ALL of these saw thousands saved and miracles take place in their meetings. Because one is blessed with “prosperity” and has a “following” of thousands, doesn’t mean a darn thing when it comes to integrity and godly sanction, for “he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust,” (Matt. 5:45).

The idea that any person especially a religious leader be it a Bishop or a pastor has arrived or his unique anointing and gifts make him special about the rest of the body of Christ is nothing but hogwash. Jesus clearly told all that it was possible for them to practice lawlessness and be cast out of heaven. God’s word is unchanging:

“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.  “Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’  “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21-23

“Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.  “But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’  “And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.  “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven.  Matthew 18:15-19

The terms “bind” and “loose” were Jewish idioms indicating that what is announced on earth has already been determined in heaven.  To “bind” meant to forbid, refuse, or prohibit.  To “loose” meant to permit or allow.  Here Jesus is speaking of church discipline.  Members who repent are to be restored or “loosed” and members who do not repent are to be removed or “bound”.  The decisions we make, the correction we give and the forgiveness we offer must be in harmony with God’s revealed truth in order to be binding. i.e. John 16:13

Apostle Paul in his writings about the church in Corinth talked about everything, good and bad including love and immorality and was very explicit about people’s different behavior and actions. He said, “Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition (1 Corinthians 10:11).  Some religious leaders would have us believe that when we become Christians, we must turn our minds and intellect off. as well as our reasoning and other mental faculties, and that we are not to “Judge.” Nothing is so farther from the truth as the concept of Judging in the Christian Church today.  King Solomon, the son of David, King of Israel wrote the book of Proverbs, whose purpose was stated as, “To know wisdom and instruction, to perceive the words of understanding, to receive the instruction of wisdom, justice, judgment, and equity.” (Proverbs 1:2-3). He also wrote:

”Then you will understand righteousness and justice, Equity and every good path.” (Proverbs 2:9)

“It is not good to show partiality to the wicked, or to overthrow the righteous in judgment.“ (Proverbs 18:5)

A divine sentence is on the lips of the king; His mouth must not transgress in judgment. (Proverbs 16:10)

Making right judgments and ensuring equity, fairness and justice is something that God requires of all Kings and Ministers, especially of those in Christian Leadership. One of the character traits that make a man a great leader is the ability to make righteous, true, fair and equitable judgments to all without partiality or respecting the outward appearance of a person. Rick Joyner of the Morning Star wrote about the Coming Davidic Ministry, the following:

There are basically two kinds of leaders-those who sacrifice the people for their own interests and those who sacrifice their own interests for the people. Those who have received their authority from the people rather than from the Lord will be subject to increasingly perverted views of spiritual authority, especially in relation to their own.

Once (King) Saul began to use his position for his own interests, rather than for the interests of the Lord and His people, he was subject to an increasing fall into delusion. He changed from being a servant of the people, to believing that they were his servants, to ultimately believing that they existed for him.  This same mentality has woven itself into the fabric of much of the leadership of the modern church, and it  has the same root. We often start out with a sincere vision of serving the body of Christ, and then gradually turn until we begin to think that the body of Christ exists to support our vision or ministry.

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, died prematurely at the age 65, as a direct result of the stress and betrayal by his friend and pastor, Karl Strader, and the deeds and actions of his son, Daniel Strader. Roy wrote the following:

Dan Strader was convicted of stealing our life savings of $ 100,000.00 by using lies and deceit and since your question about the effect on our lives is probably the must important factor to you and the Parole Commission, let me simply repeat the words of Jerry Hill, state attorney of Polk County: “The crimes of Dan Strader have done more damage to more elderly people than any homicide that I have prosecuted ”

Dan’s thefts have forced us to sell our house and most of our personal possessions and move into a trailer. He has shown absolutely no remorse and Judge Robert Doyel who presided over this case stated: “The first step toward rehabilitation is admission of wrong doing, and therefore I feel that Dan Strader will never be rehabilitated.”

What Mr. Strader did was calculated and carefully planned with a willful disregard for the lives of others to such an unbelievable degree of extremity that my wife and I still cannot understand why anyone would try to destroy us in this fashion, especially since we had given faithful service to the Carpenter’s Church in Lakeland pastored by Karl Strader, Dan’s Father.

The leadership of the Assembly of God denomination both in Lakeland and Missouri would not accept the testimony of Roy Aldrich that he was robbed and raped by money changers and wolves in sheep’s clothing in the house of God. But the State of Florida who cared about justice, righteousness and truth accepted the words and testimony of Roy Aldrich about the Strader’s.  The State prosecutors proved their case and convinced the jurors that Dan Strader devised an elaborate scheme to attract cash in the real-estate and mortgage investments. He was selling the securities without a license and that the securities were unregistered. This was done in an organized method amounting to Racketeer-Influence and Corrupt Organizations, or RICO Act.  As a result Daniel Strader, 37, was sentenced to 45 years in prison in August 1995. He was convicted of 238 felony counts for bilking 57 mostly elderly investors, some members of the church, out of $2.3 million by selling investments in properties that didn’t exist or already had liens against them.

Roy Aldrich also wrote the following letter, which in his usual style Roy distributed to others

CHARGES AGAINST PASTOR STRADER

We have been told that no formal charges have been filed against our pastor, so I would like to suggest that he is guilty of many things, perhaps too numerous to mention, which include the following:

1.  He should be charged with building the Carpenter’s Home Church into one of the finest churches in the world
2.  He should be charged with loving all people, even his critics.
3.  He should be charged with being an aggressive soul winner.
4. He should be charged with praying for the healing of bodies and spirits.
5.  He should be charged with a vision for missionary efforts all around the world.
6.  He should be charged with memorizing Scripture and becoming a master preacher.
7. He should be charged With spreading the Gospel around the world by radio and television.
8.  He should be charged with being a strong family man.
9.  He should be charged with defending his wife.
10. He should be charged with deliverance’s made through Spiritual Warfare Ministries.
11. He should be charged with supporting our Easter and Christmas programs.
12  He should be charged with teaching the fullness of the Holy Spirit.
13. He should be charged with praying in the Spirit everyday.
14. He should be charged with creating a good working atmosphere for the staff.
15. He should be charged with getting the finest guest speakers for Our church.
16. He should be charged with opposing the works of the devil.
17. He should be charged with asking forgiveness for his mistakes.

The above list of charges implies that Pastor Strader is guilty and should spent the next ten years or so at hard labor working as the God’s placed leader of the Carpenter’s Home Church.

Sincerely in Christ,

Roy Aldrich

Later, Roy was to write one of his best letters which I consider a classic to Karl Strader  in January, 1995 in regard to his Sunday sermons on ‘Enemies’ which included the following remarks:

I would like to join the ranks of those who Karl Straders counts as his “enemies.” by the following statements:

1)   I am the enemy of lying and deception which hurts and robs people.
2)   I am the enemy of those who practice cruelty in the administration of any corporation, especially churches.
3)   I am the enemy of any minister who allows the use of his pulpit for personal vendettas.
4)   I am the enemy of any minister who uses his pulpit for soliciting public and personal sympathy over controversial matters involving his family.
5)   I am the enemy of every minister in the world whose sense of right and wrong is based on nepotism and favoritism.
6)   I am the enemy of the policy of Karl Strader who raised $52,000.00  for Dan’s defense fund and $58,000.00 for repairing a roof and not one dime for his son’s elderly and devastated victims.
7)    I am the enemy of the disrespect represented in the Strader attitude towards the State Attorney and Judge Robert Doyel, a true servant of God.
8)   I am the enemy of the policies of secret salaries which conceal huge benefits flowing from trusting church members to their leaders- salaries which provide sumptuous life styles, while at the same time, these same leaders are firing and traumatizing the “little people” under their care like Cindy Deaton, Patricia Aldrich, Jack and Betty Collins.
9)   I am the enemy of huge personal gain to Karl Strader and Joe Perez derived from their secret management fees from the CHC Life Center Retirement Estates.
10)  I am the enemy of the thinking that some claimed “anointing” or supposed special privilege with God gives anyone the right to turn a Christian church into their own personal “cash-cow.”
11)  I am the enemy of the thinking expressed in the attached sermon outline which implies that the welfare of CHC is determined by any one man or family. We are supposed to worship Christ, and not the Straders.
12)  I am the enemy of any minister who uses his oratorical ability to rally church audiences into cheerleading and other emotional excess as a device to shore up a crumbling personal empire.
13)  I am an enemy of any organization that suggests opposing the leader’s lifestyle and words is opposing God.

MUST READ Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981 

THE STRADERS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

Walter Kambulow https://walthope.wordpress.com

Free Christian Ebooks http://walthope.tripod.com

GOLD DUST

HAJoshua Mills with supernatural gold dust in high quality

Why do you not see that this is DEMONIC THIRD WAVE CHURCH? Joshua Mills along with so many others in the Charismatic Church are being used to deceive millions. He claimed to have eaten gold leaves from the tree of life, he claimed that God sent oil from Heaven by way of his feet, and he stood on cloths and sold them for a donation (but it’s only free if you send him a generous contribution first), his wife claims their son was born covered in gold dust…and, remember the time that he said his water turned to wine? He was in his hotel room when it happened, of course. Now Mills is claiming that in a meeting in Auckland, New Zealand, during a super-uber anointed service, a lady saw Jesus standing above the congregation. He claims the lady saw Jesus with tears streaming down His face and His arms stretched out wide. He then says a drop of blood fell from Jesus’s forehead, and it fell into the congregation. He says he didn’t know this “vision” was going on – he didn’t find that out until later – but as coincidence would have it, he all of a sudden felt a drop of a warm liquid in his hand. Looking down, he saw a drop of blood from Jesus Christ Himself!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itH_6opcFe0

Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg

GOLD TEETH AND DUST AND FEATHERS

One Saturday night in Hamilton, Ontario, Canadian Evangelist/Pastor Gordon Williams  of Toronto http://gordwilliams.com/  said  much about GOLD TEETH AND DUST AND FEATHERS  phenomenon  in the demonic Third Wave  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ya1sOM_5L0

Gordon told about this specific lady went to a Toronto airport meeting recently  and had  so called gold dust stuck all over her body and it would not come off. Gordon made her repent for going there and prayed for her deliverance and it left!

Gordon said a dentist examined the so called gold teeth on 34 people including John Arnott and it turned out they were not gold on them but sulfur which is a chemical reaction on the teeth. The so called Jewels and stones that appear in the meetings are also a joke as they have no monetary value!

And he pointed out that 1 Corinthians 4 says all of these signs and wonders are wrong as they are not in the New Testament beyond what is written
1 Corinthians 4: 6 now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up on behalf of one against the other.

Gordon also said all TV evangelists and ministries today are off the wall because they are all about money and money is the root of all evil and especially the food salesman Jim Bakker, adulterous Peter Youngren, the deceiving Benny Hinn.

GORDON ALSO POINTED OUT THAT ALL THESE TV EVANGELISTS ARE ACCOUNTABLE TO NO ONE BUT THEMSELVES OR THEIR HAND PICKED BOARD. He said people were to stay away from Third Wave events and stop trusting any TV evangelist or preacher!

It’s true Reinhardt Bonnke and Heidi baker together have won millions of Africans who were once upon a time Muslims to Christ  see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w46yjc7xgvk

Gordon speaking about the love of money being the root of all evil  was also criticizing  David Yonggi Cho  and his recent arrest

David Yonggi Cho of Yoido full gospel church, the world largest Pentecostal church, has some serious problems.  Yonggi has been indicted on charges of breach of trust by prosecutors.  The indictment involves millions in misappropriated church money and additional charges of tax evasion.

Yonggi, 77, senior pastor at the church is suspected of breach of trust resulting in 10 billion won (us$9.2 million) in losses to his church. Also he is being investigated on suspicion of 6 billion won (us$5.52 million) in tax evasion.

Cho’s son, hee-jun, 48,the secretary general for the church, has already been taken into custody over the matter, which has shaken the religious community.

http://www.ynaija.com/senior-pastor-at-worlds-largest-pentecostal-church-gets-indicted-for-financial-fraud/

The bottom line is Third Wave preachers and fools and deceivers still get sick. They still die of cancer unhealed. Their marriages fall apart. They struggle with alcohol. They commit adultery. They are devoid of real honesty, integrity, truth and accountability. They run away from constructive biblical criticism, judgment and rebuke and throw false words around like “Judge Not!” Touch not my anointed” and “You are off the devil.” Their arrogance and snobbery stinks to high heaven! Their so called miracles and healing are not substantiated or documented in the news media!  They would like to have us believe that Jesus said:
“When I go away i will send the Holy Spirit who will cause you to twitch, shake, quake and behave like animals?”

They love to talk about “soaking” but there are negative sides to soaking that nobody talks about and the fact that many are simply losing their minds and are being put on psychotropic drugs because they are “bi-polar” or “schizophrenic” which completes the job of the devil totally stealing their minds. There are millions now ensnared by the powers of the Devil while many brainless pastors stand over them fanning them with their new gospel MANTRA of shouting, “more lord, more lord,” which shows people jerking, twitching, acting like animals; barking like dogs; mooing like cows; howling like hyenas’; clucking like chickens; laughing uncontrollably and even having imaginative sexual experiences on the carpets of churches. This insane, feel good gospel may be filling their churches sinful people but it is also filling it with hardcore devils and pay day is just around the corner – EMPTY CHURCHES and God’s judgment!

And then we have the “Carpet Time”! During the so called Revival conducted by Rodney Howard Browne, in 1993-94, in the now nonexistent defunct Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland Florida, many people spent “Carpet Time” on the floor. And what good did it produce them or anybody including Dan Strader who was robbing and raping the sheep with the help of his father Senior Pastor Karl Strader during the revival? None!

Few had heard of Rodney Howard-Browne before he led a series of revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida in 1993. A lot has happened since then; some of it is commendable, and some of it is reprehensible. In theory Browne came to America from South Africa to “revive” a largely sleeping church. He quickly got labeled as a Holy Ghost “bartender” because of the manifestations of “holy laughter” dominating his ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members. Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida, for the bible stated:

1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

South African Pentecostal Evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne, a white supremacist in theology, who immigrated with all his brothers and parents to United States became a naturalized American and taught that “sheep needed to be fleeced or they would have too much hair and could not see where they are going.. It was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep had been credited with bringing the laughter revival to America. But from what really happened in Carpenter’s Home Church in 1993 and 1994 and its devastating effect on the community including the robbing, raping and murdering of the sheep, was not much of a revival.

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, was robbed of $100,000.00 by Pastor Karl Strader and his son Dan Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church Lakeland, Florida. Rodney, who was a personal friend of Karl Strader who practiced nepotism, and bought him a Lincoln town car, was asked to help the elderly victims who were robbed by the Straders and he refused. But when German Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke’s decided to relocate his ministry to Florida, Rodney Howard-Browne decided he would give Bonnke a house. At first he offered Bonnke his own house in Tampa, but Bonnke had to locate in Orlando to be closer to his operational base. It was then that Howard-Browne decided to build Bonnke a new $250,000 home in Orlando. Rodney then drove a brand new car to Bonnke’s driveway.

How gracious and wonderful of Rodney to be a respecter of persons to the high and mighty and to ignore the real plight of the poor and needy?

Many Third Wave Pentecostals whose prophecies are false and are really ignorant of Scriptures like to spend “Carpet Time” and compete with each other as if it were some kind of a competition to see who is more spiritual than the other. None of them is “spiritual” in terms of the Holy Spirit but, being harassed and possessed with demons, they are satisfied with a so-called counterfeit “form of religion denying the power of it” (2 Tim. 3: 5). The rest of the verse says, “Avoid such people.” The Greek word means to “turn one’s self away”. And, if they do not turn away, they have nobody to blame but themselves. What they don’t realize is that if you are soaking yourself in bad teaching, a person will drown themselves to the point that they will lose their salvation or never be able to know the full life of Salvation and the real Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Fortunately, we have seen many of such people come for help and receive the exciting new life in Jesus Christ empowered by the Baptism of Holy Spirit. The uncontrolled shaking epileptic-like symptoms disappear immediately after we cast the demons out and is replaced with Fruit of the Spirit: “love, joy, peace,self-control, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control” (Gal. 5: 22 – 23). Soaking results in “spiritual drowning”!

The Holy Spirit is a person of Integrity and Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts and Karl Strader are not only wolves in sheep’s Clothing but devoid of integrity. Rodney is known for teaching that the pastors must fleece and sheep and Richard was forced to resign as President of ORU for embezzlement of money. Rodney arrived in America penniless and became a multi millionaire without doing an honest day’s work. And the Roberts “seed faith” teaching is just a shrewd method to rob the poor and needy and make the Roberts rich!

Yes the so called Third Wave leaders who are also supposed to be Apostles, Prophets and men of God not only have no integrity but are liars, thieves, manipulators and scoundrels. Their leaders suffer from Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)   in which a person is excessively preoccupied with personal adequacy, power, prestige and vanity, mentally unable to see the destructive damage they are causing to themselves and to others in the process and they include scoundrels Rodney Howard Browne, Richard Roberts, Stephen Strader, Todd Bentley, Bill Johnson, Benny Hinn and Patricia King. And let’s not forget Rick Joyner, Stacey Campbell, Dutch Sheets, and Peter C. Wagner).

DAN STRADER IS NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

KARL STRADER’S MASSIVE CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH IS AN ALBATROSS AND PASTOR KARL STRADER IS HISTORY – WITHOUT WALLS CENTRAL, formerly Carpenter’s Home Church, isn’t in use and power has been disconnected. http://www.theledger.com/article/20111226/NEWS/111229474 http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981/

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS http://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

Laughing Clark WENT DOWN IN FLAMES http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148050/

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

Pat King “The Third Wave Sorceress” http://tinyurl.com/2bcm9mn

PAT KING THE WITCH http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/tag/is-patricia-king-a-witch/

REVIVAL ALLIANCE AND TODD BENTLEY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-ja
Todd Bentley marries woman he had affair with; Rick Joyner wants you to send Bentley some money
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/23332/todd-bentley-9

HEY TODD BENTLEY DIVORCING YOUR WIFE TO MARRY YOUR MISTRESS IS NOT SOMETHING GOD ENDORSES OR ALLOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/47784235/

An Open Heaven- Todd Bentley’s Highway to Heaven http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain45.htm

TODD BENTLEY IS NOT ONLY A FROG BUT A FRAUD WHO DEFRAUDS http://tl.gd/ka0rvu

RICK JOYNER THE FOOL http://apprising.org/2012/06/07/the-colossians-heresy-part-3/

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

STACEY CAMPBELL THE WITCH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VIR82MGqE

Pope Francis meets US televangelists, and the first-ever ‘papal high-five’ follows

http://www.religionnews.com/2014/07/09/pope-francis-meets-u-s-televangelist-first-ever-papal-high-five-follows/

THE BIG MISTAKE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Jc

“SIGNS, WONDERS AND MIRACLES!” http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1cX

GOD WANTS YOU WELL http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ry

THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NATIONAL AWAKENING http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

BI-SEXUAL SCOUNDREL JIM-BAKKER http://www.scribd.com/doc/211951342

2014 THE YEAR OF ENEMIES IN MEGA CHURCHES http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-enemies

http://www.redding.com/news/bethels-signs-and-wonders-include-angel-feathers