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Seeker Sensitive “Church”

A HALF TRUTH IS A LIE WHICH LEADS TO DECEPTION

A continual emphasis on a certain truth in the bible becomes a lie and leads to deception. There are aspects of what false ones teach which are true and valid but they are not the only truths in the bible!

This brings me to the two great movements of deception in Christendom today
1) Seeker Sensitive “Church” movement
2) THIRD WAVE

Both movements don’t have a high regard for scriptures as being central to the Christian faith and experience and hence are dangerous and lead into apostasy. One is of Baptist origin and the other Pentecostal

Many Americans especially blacks loved martin Luther king the adulterer who was never a born again Christian but a liberal Christian just like Andy Stanley the son of THE Southern Baptist preacher Charles Stanley!

Philip Lee writes,

What Andy Stanley is Teaching This Month and Why it Matters

I’ve listened to Andy Stanley’s most recent Sunday sermon three times now. I watched the 9:00 AM service live online. I listened to the download made available by North Point Community Church, which came from the second service and contains a few minor differences compared to the sermon I watched live. Finally, I listened to Chris Rosebrough’s review of the sermon in the February 16 edition of Fighting for the Faith.

Why? I think what’s happening at North Point this month is going to have long-lasting effects on American, and even global, Christianity.

Andy Stanley is easily one of the top five most influential pastors in America, and maybe top 2-3. It’s impossible to quantify such things of course, but it is easily seen if you pay attention to the broad landscape of American Evangelicalism. It’s no secret that pastors around the country duplicate Stanley’s sermons and series, and there have been documented cases of pastors plagiarizing Stanley word-for-word. Thousands and thousands of pastors around America and around the world look to Stanley as a leader and follow his teaching and methods.

Stanley is currently teaching a five week series titled Brand: New. Stanley’s assumption is that Christianity has been corrupted by “Temple Model” thinking since the days of Constantine. He defines the Temple Model as being controlled by sacred places, sacred texts, sacred men, and sincere followers.

His definition of the true Jesus religion comes from half a verse in Galatians. In the ESV, Galatians 5:6 in its entirety reads, “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.” In his sermon series, Stanley has repeatedly quoted the NIV’s translation of the second sentence of the verse which reads, “The only thing that matters is faith expressing itself through love.”

Stanley is attempting to build a doctrine of Christianity on half of one verse. And his version of Christianity is one in which it doesn’t matter what a person believes or does, as long as they love their neighbors.

In other words, Stanley is embracing theological liberalism. Actually it might be better to say he’s no longer hiding his theological liberalism.

Three years ago Al Mohler asked, following an Andy Stanley sermon, if the megachurch is the new liberalism. In that sermon, Stanley told the story of two men in his church involved in a homosexual relationship. One man was divorced, the other still married. Stanley told the congregation that the men were forbidden from serving in the church, not because they were in a homosexual relationship, but because one was still married and therefore committing adultery. Many people questioned at the time if Stanley was signaling his approval of gay Christianity – the idea that a person can be actively involved in a homosexual relationship and a Christian.

When I first read about what Stanley was teaching in the Brand: New series I thought he was going to come out as gay affirming. After listening to the first and third sermons in the series I’m not convinced he’s going to make that explicit at this time, but I do believe he is laying the groundwork to do this in the future. Based on comments made this past Sunday, it does seem likely that Stanley is going to endorse female leadership in the church in week five of the series.

All of this is significant because of Stanley’s influence.

If Stanley openly embraces liberalism in the name of bringing more people to Jesus, thousands of others will follow. It should be noted that liberals have been making the same argument for more than two centuries, and that every church that has embraced liberalism is now dead or dying, but the arguments keep being made and people keep buying into them.

Liberalism has always denied essential doctrines of the Christian faith in order to make the faith more palatable to unbelievers. The problem is that if people don’t believe in the God who has revealed in Himself in Scripture, if they don’t believe in the Jesus revealed in Scripture, they are not in Christ, no matter what they call themselves.

The seeker-sensitive movement, in which Stanley is a major player, seeks to make Christianity as accessible as possible to the largest number of people possible. Up to now, most seeker-sensitive churches have remained theologically sound on paper while functioning as liberal churches. They’ve managed to keep their feet in both worlds.

I think that’s about to change.

Stanley has been always been zeroed in on what’s happening in the culture. Twenty years ago when he started North Point in the heart of the Bible Belt, he could not have survived by openly embracing liberalism. The Bible Belt culture simply would not have tolerated a pastor who openly endorsed homosexual Christianity, female pastors, a denial of the Biblical account of creation, or any of the other hot-button issues of our day.

Things have changed. Even among professing Christians today, very few still hold to those positions. Stanley now sees that it is more costly to deny that a homosexual can be involved in homosexual sin and be a Christian than it is to embrace gay Christianity. Even in the Bible Belt, it will be more costly to deny evolution than embrace it.

So, he will say that it doesn’t matter what a person believes as long as they love.

It was very telling, and honestly shocking, that it in this past Sunday’s sermon he indicated that it didn’t matter that Arius believed Jesus wasn’t eternal. For 1700 years virtually every branch of religion that calls itself Christian; Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, and Protestantism has agreed that Arius was a heretic who was outside the Christian faith. Stanley said Sunday that it was no big deal. It doesn’t matter what a person believes, as long as they love.

The problem is that Jesus and the Apostles repeatedly warned against those who would proclaim a different gospel or a different Jesus. A Jesus who is not eternally God, as Arius taught, is most certainly a different Jesus than the one revealed in Scripture. The blood of a different Jesus can not atone for our sins.

I do believe that God’s grace is such that those who are unknowingly caught up in a false system can be saved in spite of what they’re being taught if they recognize their sinfulness and trust in Jesus for the forgiveness of their sins. But woe to those who preach a different gospel. It’s ironic that Stanley is using a verse from Galatians as the foundation for his series. In Galatians 1:6-9 Paul wrote:

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

The immediate context of Paul’s letter to the Galatians was the Judaizers attempting to make circumcision a requirement for salvation. Stanley is clearly not doing that. But, in saying that the only thing that matters at the end of the day is how well we’ve loved our neighbors, he is coming dangerously close to preaching a different gospel and putting people back under the yoke of the Law, if he hasn’t crossed the line.

The summary of the Law and the Prophets, according to Jesus in Matthew 22:37-40, is “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

Loving your neighbor as you love yourself is Law, and the Law cannot save you unless you keep it perfectly from the day you’re born until the day you die. The problem? We’re all born dead in trespasses and sins and cannot keep the Law. We’re all guilty. So telling people it doesn’t matter what they believe as long as they love others is actually putting people back under the yoke of the Law.

Should we love God? Absolutely! Should we love our neighbors? Absolutely! But if we try to do so without being given new life by God’s grace through faith in the Jesus revealed to us in Scripture, we remain dead in our trespasses and sins and children of God’s wrath. There is no salvation without repentance and faith in the true Jesus.

I don’t yet know what Stanley is going to say in the final two sermons of this series. I think we all need to be paying attention though. Stanley’s influence is such that if he goes off the rails of orthodoxy and into apostasy, American Christianity as we know it will change forever. I don’t think I’m exaggerating.

Source: By Philip Lee, What Andy Stanley is Teaching This Month and Why it Matters, 24 Emmaus Rd, http://24emmausroad.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/what-andy-stanley-is-teaching-this.html, Published 17/02/2015. (Accessed 19/02/2015.)

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EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church

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The dangers within the Latter Rain Revival Movement, Mystics, and Apostolic and Prophetic Movement.
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LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp
GOLD DUST http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm
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THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS
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Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg
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THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE

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Now the whole Bible really does not say do not judge others.. but it says for us to judge righteously and not wrongfully. The Bible forbids only the unrighteous judgment. There is no such thing as living in a world in which individuals are not being judged by others for the actions that they take or what they say.

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

Rev 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent

NOW ANYBODY CAN BE DECEIVED AND THAT IS WHY JESUS USED THE WORDS “BEWARE OF”

be·ware (b¹-wâr“) v. be·wared, be·war·ing, be·wares. –tr. 1. To be on guard against; be cautious of. –intr. To be cautious; exert caution.

MT 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

MT 10:17 “But beware of men,

MT 16:6 Then Jesus said to them, “Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees.”

Too many now even of those Third way preachers, or the apostolic ones are false, even yes those who call themselves apostles and prophets. False pride comes before their free downfall again they now clearly have hijacked the full Gospel to exalt themselves falsely or to raise money for themselves, it is a self job creation empire, they even steal cause they are all mostly hirelings.. and it is why they so easily commit adultery now as well.. and are too often alcoholic drunks .. liars.. do even practice divorce , now by their own fruits you can tell what they realy are..

So many so called Christian. leaders, TV evangelist, Preachers are so busy tying now to change the others, but are they themselves firstly now really even walking in the right path? An in-depth study will prove the too many of the leaders, teachers who are fanatically entrenched into this helping us in this Reformation, Apostolic movement are even deliberately attempting to steal the Bible believing Christian’s Money.. Don’t be surprised at all of this for the old testament priests stole God’s tithe, money as well. Read the book of Malachi.

Mal 2:1 And now, O ye priests, this commandment is for you. Mal 2:2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, saith the LORD of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart. Mal 2:3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it. Mal 2:4 And ye shall know that I have sent this commandment unto you, that my covenant might be with Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. Mal 2:5 My covenant was with him of life and peace; and I gave them to him for the fear wherewith he feared me, and was afraid before my name. Mal 2:6 The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity. Mal 2:7 For the priest’s lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the LORD of hosts. Mal 2:8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. Mal 2:9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law. Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? Mal 2:11 Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the LORD which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

These Spiritual deceivers in outward appearance imitate God’s authority and ways. These Spiritual deceivers will incorporate some actual truth side-by-side with their message to give it the air of believability. They often accurately address our own personal issues of sin to fool us into believing the rest of what they say might be right. These Spiritual deceivers often reinterpret right worship as somehow being wrong worship as an early step towards establishing a greater false belief system. These Spiritual deceivers’ earthly greed is an indication of their spiritual greed. They think everyone is just like them. these Spiritual deceivers often start out right in life and believe that their earlier faithfulness still extends and covers their latter unfaithfulness. They often truly believe their authority derives from God because they have been given over fully to the deception themselves. Like King Saul, Balaam was in the old Testament, and many others now too…

The Third Wave church I went to went bankrupt and all the bad pastors had to look for a job elsewhere.. they were crooks, I had asked them to repent but they had refused..

(Acts 5:29 KJV) Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

We have to face life with the main goal of pleasing God firstly not anyone else, we are not men pleasers. and the fact the just shall live by faith in God, in all things, faith that God will protect us, look after us, we need to be more worried about how God see us, and what he thinks about us. So do you read your Bible daily to find out God’s instructions for you or do you easily still just do your own thing, that which is right in your own eyes. Beloved, because “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever” (Hebrews 13:8), as He was with Joseph, He is with you right now. And He will empower you to live the high life — the abundant life in which you will see God’s promises manifest! and not the lies of mere men

(Heb 10:38 KJV) Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. Real Christians do not beg for money they use their faith in God. We always live by faith in God… unless you are acting c…arnal or a Hireling.. My material is offered free all over the net.. Real Christians do not beg others for money they use their faith in God

One giving lip service to God will still get you to hell even if you are a Jew or a professing Christian . If you disobey the revealed will of God, are not following God’s plan for your life, you can pray all you want, go to church every day, quote by faith all the Bible verses, gave all the money away you have too, God will not hear you until you repent, change from your bad way, sin..

(1 Sam 15:23 KJV) For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

(2 Chr 33:6 KJV) And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Prov 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

MATTHEW 7: I Never Knew You
21    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22    Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23    And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,

Matthew 23:28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

Gordon Williams
Dec 29 (1 day ago)
Hi Walter:

If you look closely at what Jesus was saying to these people, it was not because they were actually doing what they said they were doing. For instance, they called him “Lord” but they didn’t know Him as their Saviour and Lord. They claimed that they cast demons out of people when, in fact, they did not but like the TAF & these ministries, they did not cast out demons but rather spread demons from one person to another. They claimed that they had done many wonders in His Name, but in fact, they did not do any wonders. We know this because when Jesus said, “I never knew you,” it means that they had no authority to do anything, just like so many are doing so today. This is the reason why Paul wrote, “The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all the power and pretended signs and wonders and will be a wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and be saved” (2 Thess. 2: 9 – 10). Everything thing about these people is false: false christs, false prophets (Matt. 24: 24; 2 Pet. 2: 3); false witnesses, false teachers (2 Pet. 2: 1), false brethren (Gal. 2: 4; 2 Cor. 11: 26). Jesus was denying such people because they lied about doing ministry in His Name.

When Jesus said, “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness”, means that they did none of what they claimed, just as these false people are doing today. They are the ones of whom Paul wrote, “holding the form of religion but denying the power thereof” (2 Tim. 3: 5). We have to be careful not to give the impression that the false ministry that these people do is in any way approved by God or by the Scriptures. “False” means “1.not accurate; not true; in error; incorrect; wrong; mistaken: as a false argument. 2. untruthful; lying; dishonest: as a false witness; 3. disloyal; un faithful: as a false friend; 4. deceiving or meant to be deceive; misleading: as, a false scent. 5. not real; sham; artificial; counterfeit;” as defined in my Webster New World Dictionary.

To even suggest that there they are or were doing legitimate ministry is wrong. Just because they make certain claims, like Benny Hinn when he gave 2 lists of people he claimed were healed in his ministry to ABC Network who contacted the people and discovered that nobody had been healed. They put on a good entertainment performance because of the money that comes in.

They are not as smart as Simon the Magician who saw entertainment and the financial potential, when he saw Peter and John praying with people to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. He said, “Now when Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles hands, he offered them money, saying,’Give me this power, that anyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.’ But Peter said to him, ‘Your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part or lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before God. Repent therefore of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bond of iniquity’ (Acts 8: 18 – 23). These false preachers, teachers, apostles, prophets & evangelists need to do what Simon did. He said, “Pray for me, to the Lord, that nothing of what you have said may come upon me” (Acts 8: 24). Thanks to Peter, Simon the Magician repented. This is a lesson that these false people need to learn. They only have the form of religion but they do not have the power of the Holy Spirit. The evidence piles up against them with the money and wasted spending on mansions & airplanes & yachts. They have not learned what Jesus warned about, “You cannot serve God and Mammon” (Matt. 6: 24). They outshine all others in their worship of Mammon. They need to read James 5: 1 – 6.

The Third Wave Movement is a Pentecostal or Charismatic movement that began in the 1980s. It is sometimes called the “Third Wave of the Holy Spirit” or the “Signs and Wonders Movement.” The name “Third Wave” was coined by C. Peter Wagner, a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary. He referred to the movement as the “Third Wave” because this was the third of three distinct Pentecostal/Charismatic movements in modern Christianity. The first wave was the original Pentecostal Movement that began in the early 1900s with the teachings of Charles Parham followed by the Azusa Street Revival. The second wave then came in the 1960s with the Charismatic movement. In the Charismatic movement, Pentecostal doctrines, teachings and practices began to spread to non-Pentecostal churches and denominations. This wave brought increased popularity to the “Word of Faith” or “Name It and Claim It” false teachings that are still popular today.

Then, in the 1980s, another “movement of the Holy Spirit,” supposedly characterized by “signs and wonders,” began in the Vineyard Church with the teachings of Charles Wimber, Mike Bickle, C. Peter Wagner, Jack Deere, and others. Professor Wagner characterized this Third Wave as being “a new moving of the Holy Spirit among evangelicals who, for one reason or another, have chosen not to identify with either the Pentecostals or Charismatics.” Also known as the Neo-Charismatic Movement, this Third Wave of Pentecostal doctrine and excess became very popular and led to many aberrant teachings such as the Toronto Blessing and laughing in the Spirit.

In addition to highlighting some of the melodramatic practices of the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, the Third Wave goes even further with its emphasis on the sensational, including claims of signs and wonders performed by “modern-day apostles and prophets.”

Key teachings of the Third Wave Movement include what is known as “power evangelism.” The basic premise of power evangelism is that the preaching of the gospel must be accompanied with signs and wonders in order for people to respond in faith. Proponents of this view have an unbalanced focus on miracles, speaking in tongues, healing and prophecy. They miss the fact that it is the gospel message itself that is the power of God to salvation (Romans 1). Third Wave proponents essentially deny the sufficiency of Scripture and believe that God is communicating directly though modern-day prophets and apostles. Therefore, they believe that God is giving new revelation today which undermines the sufficiency and authority of Scripture. The words of these “new apostles and prophets” become more important than the clear teaching of Scripture. As with all Pentecostal/Charismatic movements, personal experience plays a greater role for determining “truth” than does sound doctrine.

The Third Wave is yet another movement that is based on people’s experience rather than on sound doctrine. Proponents of the Third Wave Movement believed that it would bring forth end-time apostles and prophets to do greater miracles than were performed by Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles. These “new apostles and prophets” were said to be greater than any prophet or apostle that had preceded them. This teaching has resulted in many false prophets coming out of Third Wave churches.

Since its beginning in the 1980s, the Third Wave Movement has sparked a large number of counterfeit revivals. As the movement evolved, unbiblical practices such as “laughing in the spirit” continued to get more and more bizarre. In recent years some Third Wave leaders and churches have begun to separate themselves from some of the more aberrant practices and are trying to move back to more traditional Charismatic practices. This Third Wave of Pentecostalism has left in its wake a history of false teachings and destructive practices. Many have been led astray.

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