JESUS SAID

WHAT TO DO WITH A SINNING BROTHER?

Matthew 18:15    “Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother.
16    But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’
17    And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector.
18    “Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19    “Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven.
20    For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them.”

SOAKING IS NEW AGE AND DEMONIC http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2a4
GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT
http://www.spiritlifemag.com/warning-2-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church/
THE LAUGHTER MOVEMENT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2nJ
BETHEL TEMPLE   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-29r
THE FALSE BROWNSVILLE REVIVAL http://www.scribd.com/doc/211818062/

NONSENSE

REVIVALISTS WHO DON’T CAST OUT DEMONS IS NONSENSE!

And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.  Then His fame went throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all sick people who were afflicted with various diseases and torments, and those who were demon-possessed, epileptics, and paralytics; and He healed them. Matthew 4:23-24

“I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven (not hell), preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9

To be like Jesus especially in the ministry is to do what He did! And Jesus healed the sick, cast out demons, rebuke the false ones and preached the good news of the gospel! But we have revivalists today who don’t heal the sick or cast out demons but rather talk and talk and beg for money to support  their so called ministry, especially in the “Third Wave” when they  give demons rather then remove them.

When people do not individually get in the Word and therefore possess unspeakable joy in Jesus, they become prey to deceivers who promise entertainment, action, and experiences that are not reconcilable with New Testament Christianity (Jer. 15:16; 1 Pet. 1:8). Below is an example: “I’d rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything…and if the devil manifests, don’t worry about that, either. Rejoice, because at least something is happening.” The Coming Revival  (p.6), Rodney Howard-Browne

Notice that in Rodney Howard-Browne’s statement above there is no mention of casting the devil out of the person who might manifest an unclean spirit (Matt. 8:16, 31-32; 9:33; 10:1, 8; 12:24-28; 17:19-21; Mk. 16:17, etc.). There seems to be no evidence in his ministry that devils are being cast out (Matt. 12:28; 17:21).

Casting out devils is a New Testament practice. Jesus did it and commanded all who believe His Gospel to go forth and do the same. Christ came to destroy the works of Satan (Acts 10:38; 1 Jn. 3:8). Look up the word “cast” in the KJV Bible and study the dozen’s of references to casting out the devil and freeing people from his evil.

Third Wave Clowns like Browne do not negate Bible truth and the power of God’s Spirit, yet such must always be done in accordance to the written Word which the Holy Spirit gave us and will never contradict (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:20-21).

When they manifested, Jesus never let devils control His gatherings – He cast them out! But Rodney Howard-Browne and all leaders of the false revival (Brownsville/Toronto) do allow the enemy to rule (Mk. 5:8-13). Are they his agents?

“When Jesus saw that the people came running together, he rebuked the foul spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I charge thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him. And the spirit cried, and rent him sore, and came out of him: and he was as one dead; insomuch that many said, He is dead. But Jesus took him by the hand, and lifted him up; and he arose.” Mark 9:25-27

Jesus told us it was by the power of the Holy Spirit that He cast out devils.
“But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.” Matthew 12:28

See also Matthew 12:22-30 and Luke 4:31-36.
“How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.” Acts 10:38

Jesus had complete mastery over the devils. Be not deceived: Howard-Browne’s meetings are filled with manifestations of devils and weird activities of people who become intoxicated under demonic spell. This believer was initially deceived in this movement so have extensively experienced the pandemonium that goes on in these meetings.

What goes on under the spirit-guidance of Howard-Browne is not reconcilable with what Jesus and His apostles did when devils manifested. How did Phillip deal with the devil?

“For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed. And there was great joy in that city.” Acts 8:7-8

We see that in Scripture demons manifested due to God’s power and were not allowed to function or disrupt but were rather cast out. In Howard-Browne’s meetings and those of other deluded leaders who follow this folly, laugher disrupts and prevents any preaching. As one studies and views video footage of these meetings this will be obvious.

NOTE: WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING DON’T OPERATE IN ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT AND ARE NOTHING BUT HIRELINGS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2gd

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818

GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church

The dangers within the Latter Rain Revival Movement, Mystics, and Apostolic and Prophetic Movement. http://youtu.be/6bPSdcQ6XHY

LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp

GOLD DUST http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm

A REAL DEMONIC THIRD WAVE GROUP http://voa2015.com/

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg

FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs

 

 

YOUR CHOICE

IT’S  YOUR CHOICE ALL THE BLESSINGS OR ALL THE CURSES

Deuteronomy 28:
1 “Now it shall come to pass, if you diligently obey the voice of the LORD your God, to observe carefully all His commandments which I command you today, that the LORD your God will set you high above all nations of the earth.
2 And all these blessings shall come upon you and overtake you, because you obey the voice of the LORD your God:
3 “Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the country.
4 “Blessed shall be the fruit of your body, the produce of your ground and the increase of your herds, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.
5 “Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
6 “Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out.

15 “But it shall come to pass, if you do not obey the voice of the LORD your God, to observe carefully all His commandments and His statutes which I command you today, that all these curses will come upon you and overtake you:
16 “Cursed shall you be in the city, and cursed shall you be in the country.
17 “Cursed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl.
18 “Cursed shall be the fruit of your body and the produce of your land, the increase of your cattle and the offspring of your flocks.
19 “Cursed shall you be when you come in, and cursed shall you be when you go out.
20 “The LORD will send on you cursing, confusion, and rebuke in all that you set your hand to do, until you are destroyed and until you perish quickly, because of the wickedness of your doings in which you have forsaken Me.

Some people are really stupid in that they do things wrong and expect things to turn out right which is impossible. The Word of God by which heaven and earth were established, are created and are sustained,  promises blessings or curses on whether you obey or disobey the voice of God.  But if you are not born again by the Spirit of God, filled with the Spirit of God with the evidence of speaking in tongues you cannot hear properly the voice of God never mind operate in the gifts of the Spirit which are always flowing from the Christ who lives in true believers. You cannot deny the word of God and have true success in life for God’s word is unchanging:
And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. “He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.  “And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; “they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”
So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God.  And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen. Mark 16:16-20

So the disobedient ones, rebels, unbelievers and fools are doomed to die in the wilderness of their own choosing because they have willfully disobeyed and not heeded the word of God in Deuteronomy 28 and Mark 16 and have no one to blame but themselves for all the curses that have come and will come upon them!

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg

FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs

Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES  PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

 

RELIGIOUS FRAUD

RELIGIOUS FINANCIAL FRAUD https://www.scribd.com/doc/24336837/An-Overview-of-Religious-Financial-Fraud

Sunday Morning Stickup http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/14/us/sunday-stickup/index.html

DECEIVING THE ELECT http://www.pursuingtheword.com/deceive.htm

Seducing Spirits http://www.jonsquillministries.org/sermonseducingspirits.htm

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf

BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDREL http://www.scribd.com/doc/17673980

RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151

How Pastors Get Rich http://tinyurl.com/3azvjzy

THE TRUTH ABOUT FUNDRAISING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Ii

Counterfeits in the the Third Wave Church http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-E2

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS https://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

Walter hosting blog radio on Jan 31 exposing Benny Hinn and the Roberts http://cdn5.blogtalkradio.com/show/1/461/show_1461365.mp3

Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981

THIRD WAVE NUTS

With Real Concern for the Third Wave, Word-of-Faith, Signs & Wonders, Laughing Charismatics

With Real Concern for the Third Wave, Word-of-Faith, Signs & Wonders, Laughing Charismatics

What’s going on in there?

Satan’s goal is for deception, the leaven of apostasy, and the destruction of God’s work!

Is this laughter movement of God, or are the devils laughing the hardest of all?

Jesus is the TRUTH personified (John 14:6); the Devil is the LIE personified. (John 8:44).

Are you following the TRUTH or the LIE?

“Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven…the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees” (Mat. 16:6,12). “Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?” (1 Cor. 5:6). Should we identify with the Charismatic and Ecumenical movements? Are the great changes sweeping through churches in the twentieth century in keeping with God’s Word?

The honest Charismatic Christians believe the sign-gifts are valid for today and have true motives and efforts to follow Scripture. These ones are trying to be faithful to God in prayer, bringing God praise, evangelism, a stand for justification by grace through faith, and some have an expository pulpit message. Charismatic pastors include those who are very concerned about apostasy and the bizarre phenomenon appearing in the churches.

Other Charismatics openly follow experiences that oppose Scripture. Once this standard is adopted in preference to the Word of God, the depraved imaginations of man or devil arise to the occasion. LYING leaders are deplorable anywhere! They include the cheap politicians and the corrupt preachers.
What Kind of Leaders?

The television audience, flicking past the Soaps and the Muppets, often pause at the Trinity Broadcasting Network to wonder at the incredible display of shallowness, extravagance, and New Age brand of Christianity. Long-haired male role-models adorn the “glory” of the woman, ignorant about the worldwide standard of manliness, “nature,” or their “shame” (1 Cor. 11:1-19). Jan Crouch replaced Tammy Faye as the Queen-of-the-painted-ladies and the fairy-god-mother of religious fantasy. What in the world did TBN supporters learn out of the whole PTL mess? What Christian trying to witness has not been mocked in the wake of the Bakker and Swaggart scandals! The founder of TBN, Paul Crouch boasts, “I am a little god! Critics be gone!” :”(Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, Eugene: Harvest House,
1993), p. 112)”:

The Apostle Peter warned about religious leaders who are lustful and are experts in greed. They capture converts and exploit the weak (2 Pet. 2:14-19). In contrast to TBN’s foolishness, the cults on television deceptively look like true wholesome New Testament Christianity! It is easy to see how people get confused.

Kenneth Hagin, is known as the father of the Word-Faith movement. He actually plagiarized E.W. Kenyon “whose life and ministry were enormously impacted by such cults as Science of the Mind, the Unity School of Christianity, Christian Science, and New Thought metaphysics.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 32.)”: Kenyon was an occultist! :”(G. Richard Fisher, A Look at Spiritual Pandemonium, Personal Freedom
Outreach Journal, Oct.-Dec. 1994, p. 16)”:

Avanzini, Capps, Cerullo, Cho, Copeland, Crouch, Hickey, Howard-Browne, Price, Savelle, and Tilton all follow these same doctrines of devils (1 Tim. 4:1). Now Kenneth Copeland whines, “I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is…The biggest one in the whole Bible is God.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 125)”:

Rodney Howard-Browne believes Jesus left His deity in Heaven. What a serious error! Jesus charged the Jews, “if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins…Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:24,58). :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 15,16)”:

Marilyn Hickey tells others to just create what you need, speaking it into being, “Speak to your billfold. Say, ‘You big, thick billfold full of money…You’re just jammed full of money” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 351)”:

The wealthiest Word-Faith preachers have the biggest mailing lists. Confession works in one direction, from the suckers in the audience to the Faith preacher.

What Kind of Signs and Wonders?

John Wimber of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship, holds “Signs and Wonders Seminars” throughout the world, claiming healing is promised in the atonement. A sign of the movement’s confusion is evident. Wimber is sick with cancer!

Miracles do not prove God’s favor. In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, God “proveth” or tests the love of His people by seeing if they will go after a “prophet” who has “a sign or a wonder” (vs. 3,1). God wants His own to “fear” Him enough to “put the evil away from the midst of thee” (vs. 4-5). The “prophet or a dreamer of dreams” will lead people to the a “little g” god (vs. 1-2)! Kenneth Copeland’s blasphemes, “You don’t have a god in you, you are one!” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 110)”: Under the Law, God commanded the ultimate censuring of such heretics for the sake of purity – death! (vs. 5). God’s counsel, to either choose between false teachers who approach His people or else obedience to His Word, is still strong today. God measures the love that people claim. The barometer is if you really love Him, then you will obey Him (John 14:21)!

In the “last days…evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived” (2 Tim. 3:1,13). The Lord Jesus warned that “many” prophets doing these wonders in His name will be damned to hell (Mat. 7:21-23)! You wouldn’t want to be identified with evil, would you? “An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonah” (Mat. 12:39). The point is that the resurrection of the Son of God ought to be sufficient to bring joy into your life! Rodney Howard-Browne admits to elevating an experience with the devil above the TRUTH, “But I’d rather be in a church where the devil and the flesh are manifesting than in a church where nothing is happening because people are too afraid to manifest anything.” :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 13)”:

Charismatics prophesy a worldwide revival for the end times. They are wrong! Wide-spread turning to Christ is not predicted until the tribulation preaching of the 144,000! Scripture predicts for this period a great number of false teachers, false prophets, LYING signs and wonders, and a great falling away from the TRUTH to follow seducing spirits! Prophecy points to an ever-increasing worldwide apostasy with many false prophets deceiving many, not a revival (Mat. 24:3-5, 11)! “False prophets…shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect” (Mat. 24:24)! “Satan” is working toward “all power and signs and lying wonders” (2 Thes. 2:7-9)! He is the master of “great wonders,” and “miracles” (Rev. 13:13-14)! Christian, be wary of the demonic deception of the “Signs and Wonders” movement of the last days.

The New Age Religion also received the signs and wonders by the laying on of hands! Humanity is headed for a one-world religion that is open to deception in the name of Jesus. It’s as if the cults use the name “Jesus” as their password for authenticity! The New Age produces unity with diversity and it lacks judgment. :”(Albert James Dager, “Rodney Howard-Browne and the Toronto Blessing,”
Media Spotlight, 1995, pp. 13,15.)”: Some Charismatics are even guilty of presenting the Holy Spirit as a spirit guide. :”(T. Tillin, “Is It Revival?” Banner Ministries, Summer 1994)”: Incredible! Satan cleverly turns multitudes to the false teachers while making a mockery of Christianity! Many who follow a feel-good religion are not ready to hear the hard sayings of Christ (John 6:60). The only disciples that the Lord Jesus commends will “continue” in the Word of TRUTH (John 8:31-32)! Test all experiences by Scripture and follow the Lord!

What Kind of Prophesy?

We know Joseph Smith, Ellen G. White, and the Watchtower are false prophets. How about the Charismatics who declare, “Thus saith the Lord…” and “God’s message for you is…”? Jesus gave a powerful warning. Do not ignore it! “Beware of false prophets … Ye shall know them by their fruits” (Mat. 7:15,16). The “fruit” of a false prophet is a false prophecy!

By definition, a false prophet is described in Deuteronomy 18:20-22. Explanations in parenthesis are mine. “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word (just one) in my name (words like “The Lord told me…” or “I just sense in my spirit”), which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. (Censuring false prophets protects people from deep hurt and loss of confidence in God’s Word. Do we read: “Let that prophet readjust his figures”? “Forget the past”? “Give him a second chance”? “We all make mistakes”? “He may be just ‘kind-of-a-prophet’”? “Wait and see what harm was done first”? No!) And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? (That is a good question!) When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, (False charismatic prophesy is common! God spoke through the prophets when? In times PAST! That’s history! Hebrews 1:1), but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: (Stick with the “more sure Word of prophecy” which is Scripture! 2 Peter 1:19) thou shalt not be afraid of him.” (Don’t let the scare tactics rattle you. Mature Christians look for Jesus to come, but do not set dates or follow those who do!)

Anyone who goes after false prophets after all the warnings from God is very, very foolish! The Charismatic prophets miserably fail the test of a true prophet. They claim to be :”(T. Tillin, ‘Is It Revival?’ Banner Ministries, Summer 1994)”: to 65% accurate! C. Peter Wagner said in Indianapolis, “Many of your churches also are now becoming involved in prophetic movement. And I’m talking about serious prophecy; I’m talking about Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah kind of prophecy, where God speaks to the churches.” :”(David W. Cloud, ‘Charismatic Confusion in Indianapolis,’ O TIMOTHY,
Special Issue, p. 30)”: Such boasting is common among false prophets. The Watchtower said a group was to speak as a “prophet…as was done toward Ezekiel,” known as “Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses” :”(Watchtower, March 15, 1972, p.189-190)”: Definitely wrong! TRUE prophets are zealous against sin and error (Jer. 14:14; 23:16-32; 27:15; Zech. 13:2-5)!

Rodney Howard-Browne predicted an outpouring of the Spirit in which, “Eyeballs will form, legs and arms will grow out…” He said God will very soon begin to miraculously transport people from place to place. He has the same source of information as Benny Hinn who said, Adam, “with one thought he would be on the moon.” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 119)”: Astral projection is of the occult, connected with voodoo and the black arts. :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 14)”:

Charismatic leaders LIED about Bob Jones’s (not the godly Bob Jones of Bob Jones University) prophetic dating of a drought. Paul Cain, “the most anointed prophet that’s in the world today,” gushingly predicted, “So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last days because the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man!” Maturity? It’s just more Corinthian carnality and heresy (1 Cor. 3:3)! Paul Cain messed up on the timing of an earthquake; but Wimber claimed it came true! :”()”: Don’t put up with “ignorant” people who think they are prophets and care less for decency and order (1 Cor. 14:37-40)!

What Kind of Revelation?

John Hinkle heard a voice saying that on June 9, 1994, “I will rip all evil from the earth” etc. Lacking common sense and a respect for biblical TRUTH, the Trinity Broadcasting Network was sucked in and became the vehicle for the LYING spirit! :”(Cloud, ibid., p. 31,34-35)”: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world” (1 John 4:1)!

Gullible crowds embraced Peter Popoff as he claimed God spoke directly to him while he really had his wife speaking to him by an electronic ear device. Like Lea and Popoff, Robert Tilton had to be exposed by the secular world before this religious movement would censure him. Where is this “spirit of discernment”?

Under “revelation knowledge,” Benny Hinn claimed each Person of the Trinity is triune so “there’s nine of them” and “Jesus was born again!” :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., pp. 123, 173)”: Study the Bible and sit under the preaching of a faithful man of God so you won’t get sucked into these extra-biblical teachings!

James Ryle, a Wimber associate, said, “The Lord spoke to me and said, ‘What you saw in the Beatles–the gifting and sound that they had–was from Me.’” :”(M.H. Reynolds, “False Prophets…Pseudo Apostles, & A New Gospel,”
Fundamental Evangelistic Association, Vol. XII, Issue 1)”: Hold the applause; the Beatles were completely antichrist! (Send for a Beatles paper). Ryle’s vision from a god was nothing more than a Satanic delusion.

Oral Robert’s god held him hostage until people gave him more money! He also made a mistake on the cost of this faith-healer’s hospital. Clearly, his god does not know the future! Rodney Howard-Browne does, so he says! He reports occurrences of knowing “what’s going to happen one year, two years, three years in the future.” :”(Fisher, ibid., p. 15)”: Folks, God does not give us omniscience. The fortune-teller techniques open up all kinds of delusion. John Wimber said Christ could come at any time; but soon afterwards said little unborn children would live to see the coming of the Lord. :”(Reynolds, ibid)”: – That’s like, just blab whatever sounds good at the time!

What Kind of Evangelism?

Dr. Jack Deere, is one of the top theological leaders of the Vineyard Power Evangelism movement along with C. Peter Wagner. He says that the gospel is not about Jesus Christ who died for our sins and was buried and raised on the third day. When probed at length for an answer to explain the gospel, he was asked, “Could you perhaps tell me informally what you believe to be the gospel?” All Deere could say was, “I’m not sure.” :”(Reynolds, ibid)”:

The word “power” tickles the ears of this crowd; so they claim to have “power evangelism!” Larry Lea, “The Apostle of Prayer” for this century, took authority over San Francisco to drive out all of the homosexuals! (What an embarrassment as he bellowed across the airwaves daily about his spiritual warfare!) Get this; the homosexuals are still there, laughing at Christians! The Charismatic world applauded Lea, a self-condemned LIAR. It took secular television to pull back his fleece! “Power Evangelism” is nothing more than a powerful sound-system — blasting to the sheep and goats lost in their little wilderness of confusion!

These pip-squeaks think they bind the devil while Michael, God’s POWERFUL angel had to say, “The Lord rebuke thee.” John Wimber personally comes against the devil as he commands the Holy Spirit to help and Satan to leave!2 :”(Reynolds, ibid)”:

What Kind of Healing?

Frederick Price does not allow sickness in his home so he says; but his wife was treated for cancer! :”(Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 237)”: Charles and Francis Hunter while holding a healing crusade, sent Francis to the doctor because of pink eye.24

Jamie Buckingham, editor-at-large for the Charismatic Movement’s most prominent magazine, Charisma, was pronounced healed of cancer by his wife, Oral Roberts and other false prophets. Buckingham claimed, the still small voice of God told him he would live to be a hundred. He died of cancer in 1992. Religious people need to think! This editor with such great responsibility for the reports and articles to the Charismatic world listened to a voice but it was not God’s!25

William Branham, of the Oneness-Pentecostal cult, is one of the great fathers of the modern healing movement. He pronounced great numbers healed who died of the same problems shortly following their “healing” experience.26 Branham denounced the trinity as coming directly from the devil; yet Hagin, Copeland, and Hinn speak highly of the cult leader!27

Various cults testify of healings and blessings flowing from their ministries. Even when healings are real, that is still no proof that they came from God (Deut. 13:1-5; Mat. 7:21-23).

What Kind of Testimony?

Is the “Holy” Laughter Movement Christianity? Should we call it Satananity? Is it really Sanity at all?

The 700 Club and TBN crowds are hungry for signs and wonders, gratifying experiences, and goose-bump feelings. They are wide open to the demonic logic of the satanic counterfeits. The devils are laughing over the whole sham of these public spectacles in the name of Jesus Christ! Entertainment, emotionalism, and excitement still fill a church; but as in Hosea’s day, “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee… seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children” (Hosea 4:6).

What Kind of Wine?

People have a choice whether to blindly follow a popular voice in the religious world or to “Study to shew thyself approved unto God” (2 Tim. 2:15)! Joy (chara) is not interchangeable with laughter (galeo). Joy is an inner delight with God for all He has done and is doing. Joy comes from believing God’s Word (Rom. 15:13; John 15:11). Joy remains during our trials after laughter is gone (2 Cor. 8:2; 1 Thes. 1:6; Jam. 1:2). Correctly interpreted, Proverbs 17:22 emphasizes the rejoicing heart contrasted to a broken spirit.

There is no biblical gift for a spirit of laughter. Rodney Howard-Browne repeats, “Fill — let it bubble out your belly — Ho-ho, He-he — Fill — Ho-ho-ho, Ho-ha-ha.” His spiritual expressions and methodology are more at home with the occult than in Christianity.28 Never is there the slightest hint in Scripture that we are to worship God from the belly. “Living waters,” in John 7:38, has nothing to do with laughter! The “living waters” symbolize the Holy Spirit who dwells in the heart or the innermost part of a Christian.

Rodney Howard-Browne’s meetings are not Spirit-filled laughter or joy, but hysteria and frenzy which are clearly condemned by God! This bunch is responsible as millions view the chaos and disorder as a “Christian” madness (1 Cor. 14:23). Rodney Howard-Browne likes to call himself “The Holy Ghost Bartender” who dispenses “new wine”29 In Ephesians 5:18, the filling of the Holy Spirit will manifest Himself in honoring God musically, melody in hearts, thankfulness, fear, and good marriages. See the context! This verse will never justify “laughing in the spirit.”

What Kind of Power?

Every Christian ought to view this “falling under the power” with grave concern! Born-again believers are not safe from satanic deceptions and experiences while fulfilling conditions for demonic activity. The closest biblical counterparts of those who fall backwards, called “slain in the spirit” today, include those who are the sinning, the unbelieving, the demonized, and God’s enemies! A demon-possessed son fell into the fire and the water (Mat. 17:15). Judas and his band fell backwards when Jesus identified Himself as the great “I am” (John 18:6). Saul of Tarsus and company all fell to the earth before Jesus’ glory (Acts 26:13,14). The priest and the erring prophet of wine and vomit fell backwards in Isaiah 28:13. Are they different from the new wine and the “vomiting-in-the-spirit” and the “slain-in-the-spirit” at a Rodney Howard-Browne meeting?

Worship is always to be biblical, orderly and reverent in manner. God’s Word underscores a true spiritual response to God’s power. The godly, in reverential awe, adoration and worship, fall forward in a prostrate position. There is no trace of hysterical laughter or convulsions (Gen. 17:1-3; Lev. 9:24; Joshua 5:13-15; Ez. 1:28; 43:1-5; 44:4; Mat. 17:5-6; 28:9-10; Rev. 1:17; 7:11; 11:16-17).

The phenomena is clearly explained in O TIMOTHY Magazine, Bible Baptist Church, 1219 N. Harns Road, Oak Harbor, WA 98277, Volume 11, Issue 9-10, 1994.

What Kind of Spirits?

The spirit of antichrist will appear to be Christ. As the serpent beguiled Eve, believers are seduced by “another spirit” (2 Cor. 11:3,4).

The “Holy” Laughter movement, like the Mormon movement, developed through a boy with an experience from a god. Rodney Howard-Browne says he prayed, “Either You come down here and touch me, or I will come up there and touch You.”30 He will meet God one day all right! But it will be on his face and bended knees (Isaiah 6; Phil. 2:10)!

You can’t trust demons. John Wimber gets doctrine from demons! He says some demons have bodies etc. because the demons told him.31 Wimber admittedly does not know if the encounters taking place in the Vineyard movement are from God or the devil. In fact, he says “there’s nothing in Scripture that supports these kinds of phenomena.” Surely you would expect the head of the Vineyard Christian Fellowship that popularized this movement to go to the Word and test the spirits whether they are of God (1 John 4:1)! No, Wimber says, “So I feel no obligation to try to explain it.”32

Howard-Browne’s proof that this is the move of God is that when he leaves it doesn’t stop.33 People, think! The blasphemous re-crucifixion of Christ in the Mass does not stop (Heb. 9:28; 10:10)! Rock music, the occult, or Satan’s effort to destroy this generation does not stop! The aberrations in the Church at Corinth did not stop because Paul left; they stopped because the Apostle confronted them with the book of 1 Corinthians. Then by the time he wrote 2 Corinthians, the carnal extravagance stopped.

A study of demonology reveals that demons interact with the mind, the emotions and the flesh. God deals with us primarily in the spirit. A 1994 article of Charisma quotes Rodney Howard-Browne as saying, “One night I was preaching on hell, and laughter just hit the whole place. The more I told people what hell was like, the more they laughed.” Friends, the Great White Throne judgment and the horrors of hell are no laughing matter! The works of the flesh and Satan’s devils mock the Word of God and interrupt scripture. Could Browne single-handedly get so many people to fall for such a Satanic mockery? These people are responding to the powers of darkness. Their attitudes took a bad change toward preaching about God, sin, morality, growing in grace, and the Church.

SIGNS AND WONDERS? One wonders why this group bothers to use the Bible at all. The focus is reduced to “will it sell?” Jesus Christ’s command to “Go ye into all the world” becomes “Come to our meetings!” A “new zeal for evangelism” is a zeal to draw other people into the same religious aberrations. The idea of evangelizing people is to zap them.34 Their substitute is a cheap “go-with-the-flow” message.

Howard-Browne blusters how at the age of twelve, “The voice said these words to me…Your mom will not be home today.”35 Are Browne’s experiences that of some super-saint or one involved with clairvoyance? People are encouraged to let go of their doctrine and clear their minds of any biblical objections. He says this is “The only way you’re going to understand what God is doing is with your heart.”36 (Check your brain at the door!) Beloved, God warns that your heart is deceitful and desperately wicked (Jer. 17:9)! The Bereans used their minds, searching the Scriptures even to check out the true preachers of integrity, the Apostles! Then God commended them (Acts. 17:11; 1 Thes. 5:21). Without the principles of the Word of God, how are we to see through the deceptions, the complex issues, the false Jesus, the false gospel, and the false Spirit? (2 Cor. 11:4)

In a movement so theologically poverty-stricken, real preaching is very rare! Preaching is reduced to silly shallowness, subjectivism, and spiritual hype. Scriptures are jerked out of context to legitimize the experience (smart devil)! Charisma magazine admits that the pulpit becomes irrelevant. The whole blasphemous circus makes “the word of God of none effect” (Mark 7:13).37 A sign of demonic activity is demonstrated by the irreverence, ignorance, intimidation, brainwashing techniques, fundraising games, and overall hypocrisy. This kind of Charismatic phenomena departed from the Headship of Christ, the authority of Scripture, the mission of Bible evangelism and Bible education. Now it’s all a joke to them!

Some pastors recognize the sham but they never rebuke the sin. Such cowardly shepherds pet the wolves who eat the lambs!

Notes:

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24 Cloud, ibid., p. 22.
25 David W. Cloud, “Charismatic Leader Dies After Being Healed,” O
TIMOTHY, (1992), pp. 1-8.
26 Cloud, Special Issue, pp. 46-48.
27 Hanegraaff, ibid., p. 30.
28 Fisher, ibid., 12,13.
29 Dager, ibid., p. 10.
30 Dager, ibid. p. 2.
31 Cloud, Special Issue, p. 38.
32 Dager, ibid. p. 4,5.
33 Dager, ibid. p. 3.
34 T. Tillian, ibid.
35 Fisher, ibid., p. 14.
36 Dager, ibid. p. 5.
37 Dager, ibid., p. 12.

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TOUCH NOT

Touch Not My Anointed Is Abused By Wolves In Sheep’s Clothing

There are false preachers those who are perverting the gospel for gain and with false doctrines, and those who know Gods Word but choose to live in rebellion claim they are anointed ones” and pretend to have such “deep revelation knowledge”. When you rebuke the false teachings & sinful behavior of a false preacher they defend themselves saying Touch not mine anointed. These false anointed preachers get irritated by Christians who test their fruit as Christ commanded in Matthew 7:15-20.

False teachers have come into the churches with their books, music, literature, movies, psychology, and seminars, and have turned the Father’s house into a den of thieves. It is time that men of God stand up and expose their errors .The Bible says that we are to test their spirits, have NO FELLOWSHIP with them, REBUKE them, WITHDRAW from them, AVOID them, NOT to RECEIVE them into our house and We are to look out for those who preach another gospel.

We also need to be aware that there are many false teachers who have been completely deceived by the Devil, who are not aware of their own error and therefore are very sincere in their belief that they are saying and doing the right thing. Paul tells Timothy, ‘Evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.’ (2 Timothy 3:13) They will deny being false teachers and rigorously defend themselves as being true to God.

These are the marks of a false preacher or Teacher which the Bible gives warnings:

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. (2 John 9)

For a good tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit. For every tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they gather grapes from a bramble bush. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks. (Luke 6:39-45)

Luke 6:26, 2 Peter 2:2 says, And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.

1 Timothy 6:3 If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing.

In Colossians 2:8 Paul warned, Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.

1 John 2:26-27 says, These things I have written to you concerning those who try to deceive you. But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him.

1 John 4:1-6 says, Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world. You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

2 John 7 says, For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist

1 John. 2:4:He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

2 John 9 states, Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine , do not receive him into your house nor greet him;

If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, “Let us go after other gods”- which you have not known – “and let us serve them,” you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice, and you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has spoken in order to turn you away from the Lord your God . . . (Deuteronomy 13:1-5)

But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. And if you say in your heart, “How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?” – when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (Deuteronomy 18:20-22)

An astonishing and horrible thing has been committed in the land: The prophets prophesy falsely , and the priests rule by their own power; and My people love to have it so. But what will you do in the end? (Jeremiah 5:30-31)

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WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church

The dangers within the Latter Rain Revival Movement, Mystics, and Apostolic and Prophetic Movement.

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Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24

THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726

THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53

THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics

Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg

FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs

 

BE COURAGEOUS

 We Need A Revival

Let Your hand be upon the man of Your right hand, Upon the son of man whom You made strong for Yourself. Then we will not turn back from You; Revive us, and we will call upon Your name.  Restore us, O LORD God of hosts; Cause Your face to shine, And we shall be saved! Psalm 80:17-19

Will You not revive us again, That Your people may rejoice in You?  Show us Your mercy, LORD,  And grant us Your salvation. I will hear what God the LORD will speak, For He will speak peace To His people and to His saints; But let them not turn back to folly. Surely His salvation is near to those who fear Him, That glory may dwell in our land. Psalm 85:6-9

To solve any problem in life we must first admit there is a problem.  And then we must define the problem and work and pray for a solution to the problem. Brother T. Job Anbalagan of the Glory of His Cross Prophetic Ministries in his article “Revival Through Prophesy[i] ” has defined very well why we need a revival

An unsaved person is spiritually dead.  He is a lost soul, as he has not been redeemed from the sin by the Blood of Jesus.  He is to be born again in the Spirit of God.  There are millions of souls in the world awaiting revival from their spiritual death, which came through Adam. On the contrary, a saved soul is spiritually alive.  Nevertheless, he may be spiritually weak, dormant, dull, unconscious or oblivious.  He has a name that he lives but is dead (Rev.3: 1).  There are thousands of saved souls or born-again Christians in our midst, falling under this category.  Though they are born again, yet they are spiritually dumb, deaf, and blind.  They are dumb because they do not tell others about what Jesus has done for them or about the need for salvation through Jesus; they are shy of witnessing for Christ.  They are deaf because they hardly discern the voice of Jesus through the word of God; they are hard of hearing either the footsteps of the coming Messiah from above or the heart-rending cries of lost souls down from the bottomless pit.  They are blind because they do not perceive the suffering Christ in the garb of afflicted strangers who visit their houses for help or who remain sick or in prison (Matt.25: 35-40).        There are many saved Christians who slumber spiritually.  They have lost their first love for God.  Once they were zealous for God actively engaged in soul-winning or helping the mission fields.  The spirit of deep sleep has now come upon them (Is.29:10).

There are many believers who have fallen unconscious spiritually and lost their senses.  They have become indifferent to lost souls and the work in the Lord’s vineyard.  They do not have the agonizing mind of Christ.  Neither do they feel the agonies of the other members of the Body of Christ.   “…Whether one member suffers, all the members suffer with it…” (I Cor.12: 26).  They have no concern for the suffering missionaries on the mission fields or the poor saints in the House of God.

There is yet another category of Christians who are oblivious of their duties and responsibilities in the vineyard of God in this darkest hour as they give preference to the mundane things.

All these kinds of the children of God are likened to the children of Israel who have become “the dry bones” in the prophetic book of Ezekiel (Ch.1). Their lives are not different from the lives of the unsaved persons.  They are like the dry bones in the churches of God, whereas the unsaved persons are like the dry bones in the world. Prophetically speaking, all these children of God represent the last or the end-time Church of the Laodiceans who were lukewarm and were neither cold nor hot.  They are spiritually complacent and say, “I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing”.  However, the Holy Spirit points to them, “thou art wretched, and miserably, and poor, and blind, and naked”.  The Holy Spirit who has been constantly grieved by the lives of such children of God is still standing at the door and knocking at their hearts, unwilling to desert them because of His long-suffering.  “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me” (Rev.3: 14-22).  The bride of the Song of Solomon sleeps but her heart wakes and hears the voice of her Beloved “that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night” (Song 5:2).

Since all these children of God are the individual members of the invisible Body of Christ, the Church, they are to be revived first.  God will send a might revival to this world only through the revived members of the Body of Christ.

There are many demonic inspired movements in Christendom today that talk about a revival but they are not real revival because they don’t involve the whole body of Christ and they don’t affect society and this includes especially the ones in the Third Wave and Rodney Howard Browne and Todd Bentley which are man centered and not Christ centered!

Todd Bentley [ii] is the tattooed former criminal who in July 2008 stepped down from his controversial revival in Florida over an affair with a woman. Bentley, raised in Gibsons, B.C., was known to be a heavy drinker. During his ecstatic services he would often punch or kick sick people in the name of healing them. It wasn’t his outrageous claims of raising the dead that finally landed Todd Bentley in trouble. Not the contradictory sermons, or even his criminal past. Not the face piercings, the neck-toknee tattoos, the biker-dude lifestyle. His followers could live with all that; it was part of the act.

Bentley, a 32-year-old former drug addict from the west coast, was the hottest thing going on the global televangelist circuit. A hog-riding faith healer with a devil-may-care attitude. Then he failed his flock, the old fashioned way: cheating on his wife. Todd Bentley, disgraced, went into hiding for six months and then resurfaced.

In 2009 after the revival failed and Todd Bentley [iii] divorced his wife, Rick Joyner led the restoration team which included leaders who had vouched for Bentley’s good character in the past even as he was deceiving us all, and has posted a letter on his web page. We are informed that ‘Even so, they are married now and are resolved to make the most of their marriage, their lives, and to continue to serve the Lord in the best way that they can. ‘

Their being married far from making it right has in my view made matters even  worse and totally disqualified Todd Bentley from any reinstatement in ministry in the foreseeable future. It means there is no repentance. He has simply gone into outright rebellion by marrying his mistress. Even if his wife had chosen to divorce him, which does not seem to be the case, a more judicious, moral and righteous course of action would have been to break off this adulterous relationship and stay celibate before God Instead, he remarries quickly. And we are put before the fait accompli. Is there a recent translation of the New Testament that decrees that the solution to adultery is to quickly divorce the offended party and marry the mistress?

Canadian Revivalist Todd Bentley preached on seven fold restoration including the restoration of marriage [iv] and had a mistress during the Lakeland demonic revival and-was drunk most of the time –  He stated:

If your marriage needs to be restored then stir up your faith and ask: “My God, please, I want You to restore my marriage, and I want it to be better than it was in the first place. I want there to be double the intimacy.” Get aggressive. Don’t just settle for an “okay, restore my marriage” attitude. “Restore my marriage and give it to me double!”

So why did Todd divorce his wife and not practice what he preached? Because he is a hypocrite, a false one, a son of hell just like all the preachers in the Third Wave!

Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson being both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, could  only reinforce TB’s behavior. TB’s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” had absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections were not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is much material  on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age especially  http://newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html

Rodney Howard Browne [v] made his ministry known in the USA by playing to a large audience at the Charismatic Carpenter’s Home Church in 1993 and 1994. Through approval by Benny Hinn, who launched him at his own meeting, and Kenneth Copeland’s church meeting along with airplay by TBN He brought the new thing to naïve and silly Christians who were open for just about anything to happen and call it God. And so the new latter rain movement got a shot in the arm with laughing hysterically and being inebriated on the floor.

Rodney who believes in nepotism in his meetings taught that not only it was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members.

Rodney also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do!  So he blessed thieving Karl Strader with a new Lincoln town car with money raised from the dumb sheep when Karl robbed him but refused to help any of Dan Strader’s victims [vi].

James Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries writes in his article  The Delusional World Of Mark Stibbe & St Andrews Chorleywood [vii]:

From Kansas City to the religious fiasco in Toronto, to the failed revival at Brownsville resulting in a major church split and public financial scandal, and on to the infamous heresy and abuse of Lakeland. The same odious characters at the core attracting like-minded charlatans including the Strader brothers, Daniel imprisoned until 2036 for defrauding elderly Christians out of $3 million and Stephen who was thought by the judge to be just as guilty.

After Bentley’s exposure in the USA on ABC Nightline he was swiftly removed from ministry to prevent further scrutiny. Not only was he unable to provide evidence of a single healing, many who were pronounced healed have since died. Furthermore the Arnold Palmer Hospital has stated that claims of resurrections were bogus

For those that don’t know, in 2008 (April to July) there was a revival in Lakeland Florida where people were thrown around by some invisible force (which they, Charisma Magazine insisted was the Holy Spirit). People shook violently on stage claiming the most bizarre manifestations, visions and visitations by angles. Todd Bentley punched and kicked people to heal them, spoke of visiting people in dreams and also told of countless trips to heaven where he once stuffed his pockets with gold from a treasury room. He blasphemously baptised people in the name of the father, the son and the bam. But who could forget the 39 people claimed risen from the dead.

The jerking in Toronto, Brownsville, Lakeland or any other revival place is not a sign of the Holy Spirit but of a Kundalini demon which infiltrated Christianity mainly in North America through Rodney Howard Browne!  The fact is the bible never talks about “jerking” being an attribute of the Holy Spirit but rather it states but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control THE KEY WORD HERE IS SELF-CONTROL AND WHEN YOU ARE POSSESSED BY A DEMONIC KUNDALINI SPIRIT THERE IS NO CONTROL AND THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG AND AGAINST SCRIPTURE!

Pastor/Evangelist Gordon Williams [viii] in his posting “Todd Bentley Is Not A Christian” states:

Jesus heals, I must disagree with you when you wrote, “Miracles and gifts of the spirit don’t validate a Christian. The fruit of the spirit validates a Christian. peace, love, patience, hope, joy, faith.” First, you did not mention all of the fruit of the Spirit but I know what you mean (Gal. 5: 22 -23). The reason why I disagree with you is because you continuously mis-identify people, like Todd Bentley as a Christian. He is not a Christian nor are those who go chasing after the counterfeit signs and so-called miracles that he and others misrepresent as being from the Holy Spirit. Real Christian Believers do not get deceived and offer counterfeits because they draw attention to themselves and they cannot tell the difference between the work of the Holy Spirit and the work of the devil and demons. They do not do the things that the New Testament tells us clearly are the work and character of authentic Christian believers. They glory in their sin and make excuses for their adulterous work, drunkenness and love of money to say nothing of all the works of the flesh which they seem to think are the fruit of the Holy Spirit. As a man once told me: “If it doesn’t look like a sheep, and eat like a sheep and talk like a sheep and do sheep things, it isn’t a sheep”. Well, just stop and look at all the un-Scriptural things these people are doing. They do not look like Christians, they don’t eat as Christians, they do not talk like Christians and they do not do Christian things. So, they are not Christians.

Jesus tells us that the “signs” following confirm the preaching of the Word and prove who are authentic believers. This is very clear when you examine the Greek definition of “signs”. They were the reason why Nicodemus said to Jesus, “Rabbi, we know that you are a man sent from God; for no man could do these signs that you do, unless God is with him” (Jn. 3: 2). The legitimate 15 Gifts of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12: 6 – 8; 1 Cor. 12: 8 – 10)prove that we are authentic believers. The fruit of the Spirit (Gal. 5: 22 – 23) describes the Character of Jesus which the Holy Spirit develops us so that we can use the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Because the real or authentic Gifts of the Holy Spirit are not being used and encouraged with these counterfeit Christians who demonstrate counterfeit gifts, we have to be very careful in choosing our words as I think you have done in your letter. I learned a long time ago that there are “Christians” and there are “christians” (religious people) who are not believers. People, like the person you mentioned who received healing and made the mistake of attributing it to Todd Bentley has not learned that whoever calls on Jesus will catch Jesus’ attention, even while watching a deceptive person pretending to be a believer, and answer their prayer and heal them. When I examine these counterfeit Christians, according to Scripture, they are not believers according to Jesus Christ. Because most pastors and churches do not encourage the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and use the 15 Gifts of the Holy Spirit, they are easy victims when the counterfeits are demonstrated. This is an important ministry that we have in the churches that I am invited to preach and do ministry. As you know it is “to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ” (Eph. 4: 12). So, I suggest that you do not look upon such people as Christians because they are not

EXTRACT FROM Let God Arise
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https://walthope.wordpress.com
https://plus.google.com/u/0/100302133262254344211/posts

BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT
WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church
The dangers within the Latter Rain Revival Movement, Mystics, and Apostolic and Prophetic Movement.
http://youtu.be/6bPSdcQ6XHY
LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp
GOLD DUST http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm
THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L
THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS
THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr
THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

 

BEWARE

Matthew 7:15  “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’
23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

No where in Jesus’ teachings is it suggested that Christians should buy land and build church buildings with indoor basketball courts. No where does Jesus suggest the accumulation of billions of dollars in gold bars. Christians are supposed to sell everything and give the money to the poor, according to Jesus. Yet church congregations do exactly the opposite on a regular basis. Building a large sanctuary and indoor basketball courts is an exercise in vanity, ego-boosting, selfishness and human pride. These attributes are the opposite of Jesus’ prescriptions and everyone knows it

And of course those who claim to be real Christians and full of love, faith and the Holy Spirit character assassinate the messenger because they don’t love the message instead of rebuking the false ones as instructed by scripture:
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
12    For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.
13    But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.
14    Therefore He says: ” Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light.”

WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING DON’T OPERATE IN ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT AND ARE NOTHING BUT HIRELINGS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2gd
BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818
GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT
WARNING BILL JOHNSON AND BETHEL CHURCH http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/discernment/church-issues/warning-bill-johnson-and-bethel-church
The dangers within the Latter Rain Revival Movement, Mystics, and Apostolic and Prophetic Movement.
http://youtu.be/6bPSdcQ6XHY
LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp
GOLD DUST http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm
THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L
THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS
THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr
THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns
Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24
THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726
THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53
THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics
Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg
FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs
Karl Strader is History http://www.scribd.com/doc/56459981
Roy Aldrich, a retired school teacher, who was robbed of a $100,000 by Dan and Karl Strader, knew that Pastor Karl Strader was an enemy of good men. http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241
THE STRADERS   http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-c0
RANDY AND PAULA WHITE PARASITES PROSTITUTES PIMPS http://www.scribd.com/doc/35148151
BOGUS https://www.scribd.com/doc/29618734/FINANCIAL-PROSPERITY-IN-CHRISTENDOM-IN-AMERICA-IS-BOGUS
BETHEL TEMPLE   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-29r
SOAKING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2a4
SOWING AND REAPING http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-2ba

COUNTERFEIT

 Another Jesus A Different Spirit A Different Gospel

For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4

We have today in the church of Jesus Christ false prophets, seducers, liars and thieves masquerading as men of God, including people like Rodney Howard Browne, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, Peter Wagner, who through the Third Wave give rise to seducing Spirits and doctrines of devils.

The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form “Joel’s Army” to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.

While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs for decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000. The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of ’strategic level spiritual warfare’ to expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive charismatic manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, ’slain in the spirit,’ and congregations laughing, jerking, and shrieking uncontrollably.

Rodney Howard-Browne is one of the most controversial and publicized figures of the Third Wave movement. While many of the leaders have been almost invisible in the mainstream media, Howard-Browne and his Holy Laughter anointing have been covered by CNN , Time, Newsweek, PBS, and numerous British media outlets. Howard-Browne refers to himself in many of these articles as the “Holy Ghost bartender.”

He is also one of the most controversial figures in the Evangelical world and is the subject of many hundreds of internet pages from other Evangelical and Fundamentalists discernment groups who view his unusual revival manifestations such as uncontrollable laughter, weeping, shrieking, and animal noises, as cultic. Other conservative Christians also find fault with Howard-Browne’s end time belief that a unified and purified church is currently being restored through a “great awakening” that is manifesting itself through these “signs and wonders.”

Howard-Browne, like the other leaders of the Third Wave, believe that they are raising a great end time army that will take control of the world through spiritual warfare, and triumph over Satan before the millennial reign of Jesus.

Through the revivals held at Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland Florida broadcast by Trinity Broadcasting Network, Rodney Howard Browne infested Christendom in North America with Kundalini spirits! (See Pastor Rodney The Sheep Fleecer  RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812,  Not Innocent” http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241  )

The false failed and demonic Lakeland revival of 2008 demonstrated to the world not only how deceived and idiots the Third Wave leaders were but also the “Kundalini spirits” that possess them! (See Todd Bentley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWpTvcM74U&feature=related).

As a result Peter Wagner, one of the major Third Wave leaders, stated

Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver. I’m sorry to mention it, but I felt personally deceived in the same way when Ted Haggard’s sin was exposed and he was immediately removed from ministry… Suffice it to say that there is more than I am going to mention. First of all, Todd has been removed from public ministry until further notice. He has resigned from the ministry he founded, Fresh Fire, so he is no longer a part of that board. It has become clear that he indulged in periodic drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna, nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Enough said-maybe more details will be revealed later-but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy.

Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries http://moriel.org/ stated

Todd Bentley, the criminally convicted homosexual pedophile turned drunken heretic and adulterer who kicked old ladies in the face and stomach on YouTube at the failed Lakeland, Florida counterfeit revival has entered into a biblically adulterous re- marriage while under a “process of restoration” led by biblically proven false prophet Rick Joyner.

Bentley was ring master at a debacle of lunacy and false healing debunked on national TV orchestrated by the infamous Strader family, whom the District Attorney implicated in financial scandals defrauding elderly Christians of millions of dollars. While the Florida District Attorney publicly names Pastor Steve Strader as complicit in the swindling, his brother was sent to prison for over 30 years as a professional gangster under American anti racketeering RICO statutes.  Bob Jones was debunked as a sexual predator with vulnerable women while Paul Cain was publicly disclosed to be a drunken pervert with a life long history of alcoholism and homosexuality.

Pastor Bola Olivia Ogedengbe of ABBA HOUSE church, Paris ( http://bolaoged.com/?p=743) stated:

In 2009 after the revival failed and Todd Bentley divorced his wife, Rick Joyner led the restoration team which included leaders who had vouched for Bentley’s good character in the past even as he was deceiving us all, and has posted a letter on his web page. We are informed that ‘Even so, they are married now and are resolved to make the most of their marriage, their lives, and to continue to serve the Lord in the best way that they can.

Their being married far from making it right has in my view made matters even worse and totally disqualified Todd Bentley from any reinstatement in ministry in the foreseeable future. It means there is no repentance. He has simply gone into outright rebellion by marrying his mistress. Even if his wife had chosen to divorce him, which does not seem to be the case, a more judicious, moral and righteous course of action would have been to break off this adulterous relationship and stay celibate before God Instead, he remarries quickly. And we are put before the fait accompli. Is there a recent translation of the New Testament that decrees that the solution to adultery is to quickly divorce the offended party and marry the mistress?

Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson who are both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, have been working hard to reinforce Todd Bentley’s unbiblical behavior as acceptable. It’s to be noted  Todd Bentley’s s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” has absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections are not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” (See AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  http://www.scribd.com/doc/2909690/AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  And TODD BENTLEY DEMONIC MINISTRY  http://www.scribd.com/doc/3113512/Investigating-TODD-BENTLEY-AND-HIS-DEMONIC-MINISTRY- )

The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is a lot on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age. This web site covers it quite well: http://newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html  It gives a list of some the symptoms. Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini:

In Hinduism there are several forms of yoga (yoking) which all have the goal of giving the practitioner cosmic consciousness and unity with God. [The origins of Kundalini Yoga (sometimes called Raja or roya Yoga) come from the form of Hinduism known as Kashmir Shavism. This form of yoga comes from the Kashmir region of India and the god these Hindus worship is Shiva. Shiva was the Hindu god represented in the movie “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.”

Hindu depiction Of A Chakra:

Wheel of spinning Energy – Kundalini Yoga “the serpent power.”

Sanskrit kund, “to burn”; kunda, “to coil or to spiral”: a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine as a man or woman begins to evolve in their first incarnation; fed by the chakras along the spine and by the cosmic energy entering through the feet from the earth; as wisdom is earned in each incarnation, this electromagnetic, ultrapotent energy moves slowly upward through the spine; Kundalini is feminine polarity in nature. Sim. (Donning International Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary, June G. Beltzer, Ph.D., p. 343).

1.Kundalini in English means “the serpent power.” It is the common Hindu belief that within each person resides a “serpent” coiled tightly up at the base of the spine. Through practicing Kundalini yoga, along with chanting, mediation, and an impartation from the guru one can have their Kundalini Awakened. Kundalini Yoga is the “power yoga” of Hinduism. It is the pathway to supernatural power and godhood. Kundalini Yoga can also lead to mental collapse, psychosis, and demon possession or oppression.

2.”Asian cultures have used these teachings of the Chakra System for about 4,000 years and it’s only the last approx. 10 years that this information has filtered into the west. Chakra literally translated from the Hindi means ‘Wheel of spinning Energy’. Within our bodies are contained seven major energy centres. They are located within the body in front of the spinal column and are aligned vertically up and down the spine. Each wheel has a colour of the rainbow and vibrates to a musical note… .” (Inner Star Magazine)

3.Kundalini is at least 1000 years old occult practice. It involves bodily manifestations as a consequence for the “awakening of an individual’s Kundalini” and is related to, for example, Qigong (a Chinese occultic tradition).

4.Kundalini energy is typically described as a powerful energy source lying dormant in the form of a coiled serpent at the base of the human spine. When freed it reputedly has the capacity to effect great physical healings. Christina and Stanislov Grof, New Age authors of the book “The Stormy Search for the Self,” describe how the awakening of Kundalini energy can be triggered by an advanced spiritual teacher or guru. And how the awakening can bring up memories of past psychological traumas. The Grofs state that “individuals involved in this process might find it difficult to control their behavior; during power rushes of Kundalini energy, they often emit various involuntary sounds, and their bodies move in strange and unexpected patterns.

Among the most common manifestations … are unmotivated and unnatural laughter or crying, talking tongues … and imitating a variety of animal sounds and movements” (p. 78-79). The Grofs state that “careful study of the manifestations of Kundalini awakening confirm that this process, although sometimes very intense and shattering, is essentially healing” (citing Warren Smith by permission in an article for Spiritual Counterfeits Project entitled “HOLY LAUGHTER or Strong Delusion” (Fall, 1994, Vol. 19.2), p. 14).

Bill Johnson and his wife are fascinated by the “mystical” and “mystical experiences.” In his book, “When Heaven Invades Earth,” he has artfully twisted the definition of what an “anointing” is, the character and nature of the Holy Spirit, and the very attitude we are to have before a Holy God. His page titled “My Story-Glorious But Not Pleasant,” is a TEXTBOOK RENDITION of the kundalini awakening, replete with “unexplainable power began to pulsate through my body, seemingly just shy of electrocution.” He goes on to explain how it was like a thousand volts of electricity flowing through his body; his arms and legs shot out in silent explosions as if something was released through his hands and feet, and the more he tried to stop it, the worse it got. He declared that it was the most overwhelming experience of his life…”it was raw power…it was God.” (So sorry to say, Bill, it was not the God of the Bible, the Alpha and Omega.) None of this surprises me, as he states that “our hunger for Him in part must be seen in our lustful pursuit of spiritual gifts. That is His command!” I know exactly what my Bible says about spiritual gifts, but Bill sure can twist what is really said. This book is a sad commentary on why the church is in the state it is, as it promotes the attitude of a demanding, petulant child throwing a fit if it doesn’t get its “experience.”  BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818, GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

These Third Wave deceivers and seducers should have noted the characteristic Symptoms of Awakened Kundalini. Here is an excerpt from Devatma Shakti (Kundalini): Divine Powerby Swami Vishnu Tirtha.  Some characteristic symptoms of the awakened kundalini are here given below from Mahayoga Vijna, a treatise on the subject in Hindi by Shri Yognandji Mahrja, the author revered guru. They are illustrative and by no means exhaustive:-

1. When throbbing of mooladhar begins, the whole body shakes, involuntary kumbhak(filling in of the lungs with air) starts beyond control, breath is forcibly exhaled out, without volition deep inhaling and exhaling of breath starts and the body gets uncontrollable, know then that Kundalini has awakened. You then should give up your assertion and sit witnessing what happens.

2. When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions, semen passes out, think that the Kundalini Shakti has become active.

3. When your posture becomes fixed, uddiyan, jalendhar, and moolband has come involuntarily, your tongue reverts back or rises up towards the soft palate and the whole body becomes so active that you are unable to sit still, your hands and legs stretch out forcibly, you ought to know that the Divine power of the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

4. When your posture becomes fixed and sight is attracted toward the middle point of eyebrows, the eyeballs begin to revolve, you get automatic kewal-kumbhak, cessation of breath comes with no effort for inhaling or exhaling and the mind becomes vacant, void of all outward knowledge, understand that Mahmythe first born Shakti, the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

5. When you feel currents of Prnarising up your cerebrum within you, automatic repetition of Aum starts and the mind experiences waves after waves of blissful beatitude, think the Universal Mother Kundalini has come into action.

6. When different kinds of Nd become audible, in your spinal column you experience vibrations, feeling of bodily existence for the time being is lost, in other words you feel as if there is no body, everything looks vacant, your eyelids become closed and open not in spite of your efforts, electric-like currents seem flowing up and down the nerves and you have convulsions, know that Mahmy Kundalini has come into action.

7. When with the closing of eyelids your body falls to the ground, or begins to rotate like a grinding stone and breath comes not out, the body squatted on floor cross-legged begins to jump from place to place like a frog, or moves from place to place, or lies down like one dead, hands may not be lifted even if so desired, you feel contraction of nerves, you feel as if your life is passing away, the body undergoes convulsions like a dying fish, know that YogamayaKundalini has come into action.

8. When your mind gets influenced spiritually as if some spirit has taken possession of your body and under that influence different postures of yoga are involuntarily performed, without the least pain or fatigue and you feel increasingly buoyant, and simultaneously strange sort of breathing exercises start, think that the Divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

9. When no sooner you have sat with eyes closed than in an instant the body begins to show activity of throwing out limbs forcibly, deformed sounds are loudly uttered, your speech begins to utter sounds like those of animals, birds and frogs or of a lion or like those of jackals, dogs, tigers, fear inspiring and not pleasing to hear, understand that the Great Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

10. When you feel vibrations of prana at different stations inside your body and feel its flow wherever you fix your attention and nerves begin to show easy jerks like jerks of electricity as if passing through them, know that the Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

11. When all day and night you feel within your body some activity of prana and whenever you concentrate your mind, your body at once begins to shake or begins tossing and your mind remains filled with joy and bliss at all times, even when at call of nature, even during sleep you feel currents of prna rising up in your sahasrrand even in dreams you experience Her presence, know that the joy-inspiring Kundalini has come into action.

12. As soon as you sit for prayers your body begins to shake and in ecstasy of joy you begin to sing hymns in tones of music charming to hear and whose composition and poetry come out involuntarily, your hands giving a rhythmical clapping, and you pronounce languages you know not, but the sound ecstasizes your mind, know that the Goddess of speech, Saraswati, has awakened into action.

13. When you feel intoxicated without taking any drug, while walking your steps fall majestically or like one drunk and you are unable to do any other work and you like to remain mute and dislike speaking to or hearing others and you feel like one drunk of Divinity, know that your Atma Shakti Kundalini, the power of Self, has come into action.

14. While walking, when your mind is filled with an impulse to walk faster and your feet begin to move a running, you feel your body light like air and do not feel fatigued even having walked long enough, you feel buoyant and joyful, you are not unhappy even in dreams, you can keep the balance of your mind undisturbed in all ups and downs, and you acquire an inexhaustible energy for work, know that the Brahma Shakti Kundalini has come into action.

15. When you are in meditation you see visions divine and fall in a dreamy state of mind, have divine smells, see divine figures, feel divine tastes, hear divine sounds and experience divine touch and receive instructions from Gods, then understand that the divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

16. When you are in meditation, future unfolds its secrets to you or the hidden meaning of scriptures, Vedas and Vedntashine in your understanding, all doubts vanish, you acquire an insight into the abstruse meaning of the works on spiritual science even at their first glance, you acquire strange powers of oratory and feel not the need of approaching even Brahma, the creator himself, for knowledge and you acquire self-confidence, understand then that Kundalini the bestower of siddhis (occult powers) has come into action.

17. When seated for meditation your sight becomes fixed on the mid of eyebrows, your tongue rises up for Khechari, breath stops altogether and mind plunges into the ocean of bliss, shambhavi mudr operates and you experience the pleasure of savikalpa samdhi, know that subtle power of Kundalini is in action.

18. When at morning and evening hours punctually and automatically your body becomes charged with such of the divine influences, and body, mind and prnabecome overpowered by Her, know that the Goddess Kundalini is rightly functioning.  (See http://discerningtheworld2.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/choo-thomas-heaven-is-so-real-is-it-really/ )

In summary The jerking in Toronto, Brownsville or any other revival place is not a sign of the Holy Spirit but of a Kundalini demon which infiltrated Christianity mainly in North America through Rodney Howard Browne, THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

The fact is the bible never talks about “jerking” being an attribute of the Holy Spirit but rather it states but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

THE KEY WORD HERE IS SELF-CONTROL AND WHEN YOU ARE POSSESSED BY A DEMONIC KUNDALINI SPIRIT THERE IS NO CONTROL AND THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG AND AGAINST SCRIPTURE

And anybody who has gotten involved with these Third Wave deceivers will testify that longsuffering and kindness are not demonstrated by the leaders or followers but rather arrogance, pride and intolerance and Bill Johnson is a classical example

The Bible teaches that God allows a “drunken spirit” on people who are under His judgment and about to be destroyed — drunk but not with wine — the same way He sent a deluding demon to falsely prophesy to Ahab.

This is the hidden understanding of all these strange manifestations at Vineyard meetings turned into Kansas City barnyards. God is allowing the Enemy to mock the people who ‘no longer tremble at His word” with grotesque manifestations.

Self control has to do with a lot of these God-sent but evil manifestations.

The spirit of prophecy is subject to the prophets, is also a part of self control.

But to apply it to speaking is a problem because of so many of the teachings on our lack of control over the tongue. In terms of the NAR, the lack of volition in some of these animalistic outbursts during praise and worship is a sign that this person is not of God, and God is allowing them to manifest as a sign to anyone who understands the Bible enough to identify it.

EXTRACT FROM Our Wonderful Redeemer
http://walthope.tripod.com/redeemer.htm
https://walthope.wordpress.com

BEFORE YOU

He Opened Their Understanding

And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.  Then He said to them, “Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day,  “and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. “And you are witnesses of these things.  “Behold, I send the Promise of My Father upon you; but tarry in the city of Jerusalem until you are endued with power from on high.” Luke 24:45

Unlike others of our day both Christian and non-Christian, Jesus Christ didn’t deny the Scriptures, the Old Testament, but used it and opened the understanding of His disciples, the remnant, that they might comprehend Scripture including the Promise of His Father to send power from on high (Joel 2:28-32)! The idea that Scriptures, the Old Testament, is not the inspired word of God, is from the pits of hell for as Paul told Timothy:

But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.  But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,  that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 2 Timothy 3:13-17

Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 2 Timothy 4:2-4

We use scriptures to examine the fables of evil men who cannot endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they heap up for themselves teachers; and they turn their ears away from the truth.

Unlike many false prophets, preachers and teachers today, Jesus Christ was not a liar, a deceiver, a controller or an abuser. He was not only a true man of God, a son of God, but a man of integrity! The definition of integrity: 1. Steadfast adherence to a strict moral or ethical code. 2. The state of being unimpaired soundness. 3. The quality or condition of being whole or undivided; completeness.  In other words He was nothing like the many false Christian leaders we have today especially in the “Third Wave” who are demonized and need deliverance and true salvation!

It’s to be noted:

“The first wave was the Pentecostal Movement, the second, the Charismatics, and now the Third Wave is joining them. The Third Wave being, of course, those mainstream evangelicals, now aware of the possibility of the power of God, but not wanting to identify with Pentecostalism.” (C. Peter Wagner, as quoted in The Trojan Horse, p. 244)  “While its proponents claim old-fashioned Pentecostalism as its heritage, the doctrine of the Vineyard movement’s Third Wave theology, as well as that of their up-and-coming stepchild, Promise Keepers, represents far more. It is a doctrine of extra-biblical extremism that focuses on seeking sensually-oriented experiences and utterances directly from Almighty God. Most often, the “prophet” names the individual these utterances are directed to and he sees visions in which personal appearances by Jesus and other well-known Bible characters are not uncommon. Outlandish and unbelievable extremes, practices and conduct, all in the name of the moving of the Holy Spirit, have sprung from the aforementioned, humble, early practices of Promise Keepers’ mother church.”

“Third Wave Vineyard tacticians, as well as Promise Keepers’ public relations departments have perfected invasive techniques in order to reach into otherwise biblically balanced denominations and infiltrate them with this doctrinal “leaven” by refocusing their spiritually naive victims on the propaganda calling for unity, harmony and the church’s need for “real men.” This is a well-planned, strategically designed conspiracy to doctrinally invade those of extremely dissimilar theological positions. Their hope is that these target groups will swallow the hook of “Doctrine is no big deal. Let’s just love Jesus and unite for Christ.” Their plan is to bring to bear on all groups—Pentecostal and non-Pentecostal, Protestant and non-Protestant—the teaching and extra-biblical  philosophy that enslaves, excites and drives them with an evangelistic fervor. Thus an influx of Vineyard-type speakers and Third Wave-influenced ministers and materials has been invading otherwise conservative Bible-based churches on the false and deceptive premise of Promise Keepers.” (Phil Arms, op.cit., p.245-246,)

Many of the Third Wave leaders talk about “Christian wealth transfer but practice an ongoing third wave demon transfer” says Don Koenig of  thepropheticyears.com[i].

The whole idea that there will be a wealth transfer from the world to the Church is preposterous. What do they think the world will be doing while we take away their wealth and what in the world would we do with the wealth of the world anyway? Get rid of poverty? Where does it say the Church will do that in scripture? Actually these people will take new found wealth to build more and larger circus tents for their “third wave” freak shows?

There is no such concept of a wealth transfer to the Church in scripture it is totally contrary to what the scripture teaches.

These “third wave” self appointed, apostles, prophets and healers are proud presumptuous deranged people or they are greedy con artists and liars.

The “third wave” apostles, false prophets and healers appeal to people’s flesh and that is the only reason they have a following. They certainly do not hear the true gospel from these people and they do receive any sound Christian teaching.

These are the people Jesus was talking about in Matthew chapter 7: 21-22. They tell Jesus did we not prophecy in your name and cast out Devils in your name and do great works? But, Jesus will say to them depart from me you workers of inequity I never knew you

James Jacob Prasch in his article “The Delusional World Of Mark Stibbe & St Andrews Chorleywood[ii] “give us a sordid glimpse of the deception and demonization in the Third Wave:

Welcome to St. Andrew’s Chorleywood, The UK Platform For The Promotion Of Sexually Perverted Deceivers From Paul Cain To Todd Bentley.

After Its Latest Fad The Question Must Be Asked:  Is St. Andrews Merely A Spiritually And Doctrinally Deranged Church Or A Lunatic Asylum With A Cross On The Roof?

It was the predecessor of  Mark Stibbe, Anglican vicar at St. Andrew’s Chorley Wood , David Pytches, who promoted the ‘Kansas City Prophets’, (now proven by scripture and history to be false prophets), with his wild book ‘Some Said It Thundered’ in which he lauded Bob Jones and Paul Cain.

The fanciful false prophetic predictions of a great British revival for October of that year made in the Name of The Lord by Jones, Cain and their pastor Mike Bickel and the late John Wimber made in August of 1990 came to nothing. More mosques have been built in Britain than churches in the last 18 years since their promised ‘latter day rain’ and as with the failed Alpha courses the UK has only witnessed steadily increasing moral and spiritual decline including a Church of England headed by a member of a Druid sect and favoring same sex marriages and the lesbian and homosexual ordination urged by Desmond Tutu.

Pytches, Sandy Miller, Nicky Gumbel, Terry Virgo, Gerald Coates, and RT Kendall all quickly jumped on the ‘Kansas City’ bandwagon, but the assured revival never materialized; the diametric opposite transpired instead. Lakeland meetings were also mimicked in Dudley, England and predictably endorsed by Gerald  Coates who tried to copy the failed Pensacola revival in London.

Lakeland is the most recent sequel but Kansas City was the prequel. Indeed, the gross distortion of The Book of Joel by the Kansas City false prophets, by means of abandoning biblical exegesis and embracing pure Gnosticism in the mystical subjectivist interpretation of Joel, saw the Babylonian invaders whom God will destroy retro-identified as ‘The Triumphant Church’. The participants at the Docklands fiasco saw the locusts of Joel’s apocalyptic vision identified as the demon cohorts of hell in Revelation chapter 9, re-identified as the ‘Kingdom Now’/ Manifest sons participants in the conference. The mishandling and distortion of scripture was religious madness that set the stage for the next failed revival from Toronto, Canada led by John & Carol Arnott. This was likewise followed by the demise of its American clone at Brownsville Assemblies of God that ended in a massive church split and public financial scandal, but likewise no revival despite an avalanche of big talk and hollow promises.

Indeed, as one who himself believes in the charismatic gifts of the Holy Spirit when practiced scripturally, the consecutive failure of these counterfeit moves of Gods to deliver what they falsely promised was predictable, and in fact inevitable. Abject theology leads to abject spirituality. Doctrinal bankruptcy equates to spiritual bankruptcy.

Meanwhile, the Kansas City False Prophets hyped and promulgated by St. Andrew’s Chorleywood to no end have publicly fallen from grace. Bob Jones was debunked as a sexual predator with vulnerable women while Paul Cain was publicly disclosed to be a drunken pervert with a life long history of alcoholism and homosexuality.

Well David Pytches – Thunder indeed!

Elim’s Ian Bilby, and his worship leader, the cheer leaders of the Toronto deception in New Zealand were likewise found in publicly exposed serial adultery with as many as 20 women.

No revival ever materialized from Kansas City, which was the first link of the twisted chain of carnal and demonically inspired folly that has so discredited, damaged, and divided the church courtesy of St. Andrews Chorleywood who championed these false prophets with David Pytches and his ludicrous book.

Neither did any revival emerge from Toronto or Pensacola. Those freak shows are long over as is their attempted UK imitations in Sunderland and Marsham Street, London. Despite this, just as the Elim  denomination continues to try to resuscitate the Toronto failure in its magazine, under the leadership of Mark Stibbe, St. Andrews Chorleywood continues promote John & Carol Arnott at their “School of International Ministry”. They seem to teach everything from “dream interpretation” to biblical groundless nonsense that is essentially New Age practice absurdly  put into Christian jargon.

Now Mark Stibbe has promoted the ‘Third Wave’ sequel of Toronto and Pensacola in Lakeland, Florida . Lakeland pastor Stephen Strader admits it is the continuation of the Toronto and Pensacola phenomena.

According to various news reports, The Florida District Attorney believed Pastor Stephen Strader to be as guilty as his brother Daniel, but obtained a RICO conviction on his brother Daniel, now in prison until 2036 after defrauding elderly Christians out of  $3 million dollars. Strader was convicted as a professional racketeer under RICO laws. RICO anti racketeering legislation is used in the prosecution and sentencing of professional gangsters engaged in various forms of organized criminal activity. These are the Strader brothers.

Strader brought in a criminally convicted Canadian homosexual pedophile named Todd Bentley to conduct his counterfeit revival. Bentley was imprisoned for the homosexual molestation of a seven year old before being commissioned to lead the Lakeland pandemonium. Bentley has meanwhile filed for a separation from his wife which by Canadian law is the first step to divorce. Meanwhile, it is revealed that Bentley has a history of adultery excluding him from ministry that has been covered up and has once again become involved in a yet another improper extra marital relationship. Yet it is this same Bentley that Wendy Alec of the so called ‘God Channel’ has defended labeling those critical of him and his carnal antics as being of the devil, and it is this same Lakeland hoax that Mark Stibbe and St. Andrews Chorleywood promulgated aggressively.

Bentley was exposed on national TV in the USA on the ABC Nightline broadcast for being unable to medically document a single claimed healing. Some of those pronounced healed at Lakeland have however since been medically documented as deceased, and a statement by Arnold Palmer hospital likewise contradicts claims of a resurrection from the dead as bogus.

That the ‘Fruit of The Holy Spirit’ according to Galatians is ‘ekreitei’ “Self Control” not the lack of, never mattered to proponents of Toronto or Pensacola. That such Fruit is also ‘gentleness’ does not matter either as Bentley kicks old ladies in the stomach and baptizes people in the name of ‘Bam’. Christ’s own clear and unambiguous warning to avoid those like Bentley who claim His physical return before the ‘parousia’ and revelatory  visitations from  a healing angel named ‘Emma’ (there are no manifestations of angelic beings as women or as agents of healing in God’s Word) could hardly matter to someone like Mark Stibbe.

It is well know by police and social services that pedophiles frequently profess a religious conversion in prison as a parole stunt and then seek work in scout groups, schools, youth camps and churches in   order to get near children. Although Bentley fits this profile, we do not have any evidence of any recent homosexual pedophilia by this self-disfigured heretical freak, however current verified information certainly exists in the public media about his taking his wife to court for a separation and his more recent history of adultery.

But even if he did undergo an authentic regeneration and become a Christian, many ask why he would then say The Lord led him to cover his body with an array of disfiguring tattoos that give him the appearance of a rather freakish goon? Even if his sexual perversion was prior to becoming a Christian as he claims, that is not true of his openly confessed mentor, sexual predator Bob Jones, whom Bentley lauds and endorses. Jones preyed upon women sexually in lewd acts as a ‘prophet’. Why would anyone serving Jesus endorse the ministry of a sexually immoral preacher who misused Christian ministry to perpetrate his perversions and who according to The New Testament has no biblical right to be in  ministry as he is not above reproach?

These are the deranged antics of Lakeland we are speaking of and these are the kinds of people we are talking about; an assortment of perverts, swindlers, drunks, homosexuals, demonstrable false prophets, and even a tattooed criminally convicted pedophile child molester turned adulterer filing separation procedures against his wife. This is the whacky world of Mark Stibbe.

It’s evident from their agenda, their words, and their deception the leaders of the Third Wave don’t have the best interests of the sheep at hand.  They are happily filled with greed, pride, lies, and false doctrine. Those who follow these Svengalis…those who have been preyed upon and duped with lies are the ones, are also under the influence of demons. The leaders of these insidious movements such as The Third Wave are tools of the Devil. They have an evil nature and possess extreme craftiness. Whether delusional or just plain evil, whether they believe their own lies or see no lies, just profit and power…they are the masterminds. These hypocritical liars spread demons, to those vulnerable enough to believe them. The bible tells us about them:

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,  speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,  1 Timothy 4:1-2

For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,  whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.  One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”  This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.  To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.  They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. Titus 1:10-16

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