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 Another Jesus A Different Spirit A Different Gospel

For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted-you may well put up with it! 2 Corinthians 11:4

We have today in the church of Jesus Christ false prophets, seducers, liars and thieves masquerading as men of God, including people like Rodney Howard Browne, Rick Joyner, Bill Johnson, Todd Bentley, Peter Wagner, who through the Third Wave give rise to seducing Spirits and doctrines of devils.

The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form “Joel’s Army” to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.

While segments of this belief system have been a part of Pentecostalism and charismatic beliefs for decades, the excesses of this movement were declared a heresy in 1949 by the General Council of the Assemblies of God, and again condemned through Resolution 16 in 2000. The beliefs and manifestations of the movement include the use of ’strategic level spiritual warfare’ to expel territorial demons from American and world cities. Worship includes excessive charismatic manifestations such as hundreds of people falling, ’slain in the spirit,’ and congregations laughing, jerking, and shrieking uncontrollably.

Rodney Howard-Browne is one of the most controversial and publicized figures of the Third Wave movement. While many of the leaders have been almost invisible in the mainstream media, Howard-Browne and his Holy Laughter anointing have been covered by CNN , Time, Newsweek, PBS, and numerous British media outlets. Howard-Browne refers to himself in many of these articles as the “Holy Ghost bartender.”

He is also one of the most controversial figures in the Evangelical world and is the subject of many hundreds of internet pages from other Evangelical and Fundamentalists discernment groups who view his unusual revival manifestations such as uncontrollable laughter, weeping, shrieking, and animal noises, as cultic. Other conservative Christians also find fault with Howard-Browne’s end time belief that a unified and purified church is currently being restored through a “great awakening” that is manifesting itself through these “signs and wonders.”

Howard-Browne, like the other leaders of the Third Wave, believe that they are raising a great end time army that will take control of the world through spiritual warfare, and triumph over Satan before the millennial reign of Jesus.

Through the revivals held at Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland Florida broadcast by Trinity Broadcasting Network, Rodney Howard Browne infested Christendom in North America with Kundalini spirits! (See Pastor Rodney The Sheep Fleecer  RODNEY HOWARD BROWNE THE FLEECER http://www.scribd.com/doc/36546812,  Not Innocent” http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241  )

The false failed and demonic Lakeland revival of 2008 demonstrated to the world not only how deceived and idiots the Third Wave leaders were but also the “Kundalini spirits” that possess them! (See Todd Bentley http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWpTvcM74U&feature=related).

As a result Peter Wagner, one of the major Third Wave leaders, stated

Todd Bentley now carries the label of a liar and a deceiver. I’m sorry to mention it, but I felt personally deceived in the same way when Ted Haggard’s sin was exposed and he was immediately removed from ministry… Suffice it to say that there is more than I am going to mention. First of all, Todd has been removed from public ministry until further notice. He has resigned from the ministry he founded, Fresh Fire, so he is no longer a part of that board. It has become clear that he indulged in periodic drunkenness. He has no intention at the moment of reconciling with Shonna, nor does she with him. Their marriage has been torn for years by his emotional attachment with at least one other female whose physical contact went beyond hugging and kissing and holding hands. Enough said-maybe more details will be revealed later-but it was clearly immoral. All of this was skillfully concealed by lying and by swearing close associates who had observed his behavior to secrecy.

Jacob Prasch of Moriel Ministries http://moriel.org/ stated

Todd Bentley, the criminally convicted homosexual pedophile turned drunken heretic and adulterer who kicked old ladies in the face and stomach on YouTube at the failed Lakeland, Florida counterfeit revival has entered into a biblically adulterous re- marriage while under a “process of restoration” led by biblically proven false prophet Rick Joyner.

Bentley was ring master at a debacle of lunacy and false healing debunked on national TV orchestrated by the infamous Strader family, whom the District Attorney implicated in financial scandals defrauding elderly Christians of millions of dollars. While the Florida District Attorney publicly names Pastor Steve Strader as complicit in the swindling, his brother was sent to prison for over 30 years as a professional gangster under American anti racketeering RICO statutes.  Bob Jones was debunked as a sexual predator with vulnerable women while Paul Cain was publicly disclosed to be a drunken pervert with a life long history of alcoholism and homosexuality.

Pastor Bola Olivia Ogedengbe of ABBA HOUSE church, Paris ( http://bolaoged.com/?p=743) stated:

In 2009 after the revival failed and Todd Bentley divorced his wife, Rick Joyner led the restoration team which included leaders who had vouched for Bentley’s good character in the past even as he was deceiving us all, and has posted a letter on his web page. We are informed that ‘Even so, they are married now and are resolved to make the most of their marriage, their lives, and to continue to serve the Lord in the best way that they can.

Their being married far from making it right has in my view made matters even worse and totally disqualified Todd Bentley from any reinstatement in ministry in the foreseeable future. It means there is no repentance. He has simply gone into outright rebellion by marrying his mistress. Even if his wife had chosen to divorce him, which does not seem to be the case, a more judicious, moral and righteous course of action would have been to break off this adulterous relationship and stay celibate before God Instead, he remarries quickly. And we are put before the fait accompli. Is there a recent translation of the New Testament that decrees that the solution to adultery is to quickly divorce the offended party and marry the mistress?

Rick Joyner and Bill Johnson who are both caught up in the realm of deceiving spirits, have been working hard to reinforce Todd Bentley’s unbiblical behavior as acceptable. It’s to be noted  Todd Bentley’s s declaration of “opening up the stargate portals to the third heaven” has absolutely nothing to do with God or His heavenly realms…it is based on previous declarations by high level occultist. His “angel” connections are not God’s angels, they are familiar spirits and demonic forces. What he does and declares is UTTERLY SATANIC…not “just a little eccentric.” (See AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  http://www.scribd.com/doc/2909690/AN-ANGEL-CALLED-EMMA  And TODD BENTLEY DEMONIC MINISTRY  http://www.scribd.com/doc/3113512/Investigating-TODD-BENTLEY-AND-HIS-DEMONIC-MINISTRY- )

The opening up of these “portals” that TB is engaged in is activated by his own soul power/soul energy called kundalini in Hinduism. There is a lot on the web about it as it is practiced by those in the occult/new age. This web site covers it quite well: http://newchristian.org.uk/kundalini.html  It gives a list of some the symptoms. Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini:

In Hinduism there are several forms of yoga (yoking) which all have the goal of giving the practitioner cosmic consciousness and unity with God. [The origins of Kundalini Yoga (sometimes called Raja or roya Yoga) come from the form of Hinduism known as Kashmir Shavism. This form of yoga comes from the Kashmir region of India and the god these Hindus worship is Shiva. Shiva was the Hindu god represented in the movie “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.”

Hindu depiction Of A Chakra:

Wheel of spinning Energy – Kundalini Yoga “the serpent power.”

Sanskrit kund, “to burn”; kunda, “to coil or to spiral”: a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine as a man or woman begins to evolve in their first incarnation; fed by the chakras along the spine and by the cosmic energy entering through the feet from the earth; as wisdom is earned in each incarnation, this electromagnetic, ultrapotent energy moves slowly upward through the spine; Kundalini is feminine polarity in nature. Sim. (Donning International Encyclopedic Psychic Dictionary, June G. Beltzer, Ph.D., p. 343).

1.Kundalini in English means “the serpent power.” It is the common Hindu belief that within each person resides a “serpent” coiled tightly up at the base of the spine. Through practicing Kundalini yoga, along with chanting, mediation, and an impartation from the guru one can have their Kundalini Awakened. Kundalini Yoga is the “power yoga” of Hinduism. It is the pathway to supernatural power and godhood. Kundalini Yoga can also lead to mental collapse, psychosis, and demon possession or oppression.

2.”Asian cultures have used these teachings of the Chakra System for about 4,000 years and it’s only the last approx. 10 years that this information has filtered into the west. Chakra literally translated from the Hindi means ‘Wheel of spinning Energy’. Within our bodies are contained seven major energy centres. They are located within the body in front of the spinal column and are aligned vertically up and down the spine. Each wheel has a colour of the rainbow and vibrates to a musical note… .” (Inner Star Magazine)

3.Kundalini is at least 1000 years old occult practice. It involves bodily manifestations as a consequence for the “awakening of an individual’s Kundalini” and is related to, for example, Qigong (a Chinese occultic tradition).

4.Kundalini energy is typically described as a powerful energy source lying dormant in the form of a coiled serpent at the base of the human spine. When freed it reputedly has the capacity to effect great physical healings. Christina and Stanislov Grof, New Age authors of the book “The Stormy Search for the Self,” describe how the awakening of Kundalini energy can be triggered by an advanced spiritual teacher or guru. And how the awakening can bring up memories of past psychological traumas. The Grofs state that “individuals involved in this process might find it difficult to control their behavior; during power rushes of Kundalini energy, they often emit various involuntary sounds, and their bodies move in strange and unexpected patterns.

Among the most common manifestations … are unmotivated and unnatural laughter or crying, talking tongues … and imitating a variety of animal sounds and movements” (p. 78-79). The Grofs state that “careful study of the manifestations of Kundalini awakening confirm that this process, although sometimes very intense and shattering, is essentially healing” (citing Warren Smith by permission in an article for Spiritual Counterfeits Project entitled “HOLY LAUGHTER or Strong Delusion” (Fall, 1994, Vol. 19.2), p. 14).

Bill Johnson and his wife are fascinated by the “mystical” and “mystical experiences.” In his book, “When Heaven Invades Earth,” he has artfully twisted the definition of what an “anointing” is, the character and nature of the Holy Spirit, and the very attitude we are to have before a Holy God. His page titled “My Story-Glorious But Not Pleasant,” is a TEXTBOOK RENDITION of the kundalini awakening, replete with “unexplainable power began to pulsate through my body, seemingly just shy of electrocution.” He goes on to explain how it was like a thousand volts of electricity flowing through his body; his arms and legs shot out in silent explosions as if something was released through his hands and feet, and the more he tried to stop it, the worse it got. He declared that it was the most overwhelming experience of his life…”it was raw power…it was God.” (So sorry to say, Bill, it was not the God of the Bible, the Alpha and Omega.) None of this surprises me, as he states that “our hunger for Him in part must be seen in our lustful pursuit of spiritual gifts. That is His command!” I know exactly what my Bible says about spiritual gifts, but Bill sure can twist what is really said. This book is a sad commentary on why the church is in the state it is, as it promotes the attitude of a demanding, petulant child throwing a fit if it doesn’t get its “experience.”  BILL JOHNSON IS THE DECEIVER  http://www.scribd.com/doc/25418818, GRAVE SUCKING BILL JOHNSON http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1mT

These Third Wave deceivers and seducers should have noted the characteristic Symptoms of Awakened Kundalini. Here is an excerpt from Devatma Shakti (Kundalini): Divine Powerby Swami Vishnu Tirtha.  Some characteristic symptoms of the awakened kundalini are here given below from Mahayoga Vijna, a treatise on the subject in Hindi by Shri Yognandji Mahrja, the author revered guru. They are illustrative and by no means exhaustive:-

1. When throbbing of mooladhar begins, the whole body shakes, involuntary kumbhak(filling in of the lungs with air) starts beyond control, breath is forcibly exhaled out, without volition deep inhaling and exhaling of breath starts and the body gets uncontrollable, know then that Kundalini has awakened. You then should give up your assertion and sit witnessing what happens.

2. When Your body begins trembling, hair stands on roots, you laugh or begin to weep without your wishing, your tongue begins to utter deformed sounds, you are filled with fear or see frightening visions, semen passes out, think that the Kundalini Shakti has become active.

3. When your posture becomes fixed, uddiyan, jalendhar, and moolband has come involuntarily, your tongue reverts back or rises up towards the soft palate and the whole body becomes so active that you are unable to sit still, your hands and legs stretch out forcibly, you ought to know that the Divine power of the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

4. When your posture becomes fixed and sight is attracted toward the middle point of eyebrows, the eyeballs begin to revolve, you get automatic kewal-kumbhak, cessation of breath comes with no effort for inhaling or exhaling and the mind becomes vacant, void of all outward knowledge, understand that Mahmythe first born Shakti, the goddess Kundalini has come into action.

5. When you feel currents of Prnarising up your cerebrum within you, automatic repetition of Aum starts and the mind experiences waves after waves of blissful beatitude, think the Universal Mother Kundalini has come into action.

6. When different kinds of Nd become audible, in your spinal column you experience vibrations, feeling of bodily existence for the time being is lost, in other words you feel as if there is no body, everything looks vacant, your eyelids become closed and open not in spite of your efforts, electric-like currents seem flowing up and down the nerves and you have convulsions, know that Mahmy Kundalini has come into action.

7. When with the closing of eyelids your body falls to the ground, or begins to rotate like a grinding stone and breath comes not out, the body squatted on floor cross-legged begins to jump from place to place like a frog, or moves from place to place, or lies down like one dead, hands may not be lifted even if so desired, you feel contraction of nerves, you feel as if your life is passing away, the body undergoes convulsions like a dying fish, know that YogamayaKundalini has come into action.

8. When your mind gets influenced spiritually as if some spirit has taken possession of your body and under that influence different postures of yoga are involuntarily performed, without the least pain or fatigue and you feel increasingly buoyant, and simultaneously strange sort of breathing exercises start, think that the Divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

9. When no sooner you have sat with eyes closed than in an instant the body begins to show activity of throwing out limbs forcibly, deformed sounds are loudly uttered, your speech begins to utter sounds like those of animals, birds and frogs or of a lion or like those of jackals, dogs, tigers, fear inspiring and not pleasing to hear, understand that the Great Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

10. When you feel vibrations of prana at different stations inside your body and feel its flow wherever you fix your attention and nerves begin to show easy jerks like jerks of electricity as if passing through them, know that the Goddess Kundalini has come into action.

11. When all day and night you feel within your body some activity of prana and whenever you concentrate your mind, your body at once begins to shake or begins tossing and your mind remains filled with joy and bliss at all times, even when at call of nature, even during sleep you feel currents of prna rising up in your sahasrrand even in dreams you experience Her presence, know that the joy-inspiring Kundalini has come into action.

12. As soon as you sit for prayers your body begins to shake and in ecstasy of joy you begin to sing hymns in tones of music charming to hear and whose composition and poetry come out involuntarily, your hands giving a rhythmical clapping, and you pronounce languages you know not, but the sound ecstasizes your mind, know that the Goddess of speech, Saraswati, has awakened into action.

13. When you feel intoxicated without taking any drug, while walking your steps fall majestically or like one drunk and you are unable to do any other work and you like to remain mute and dislike speaking to or hearing others and you feel like one drunk of Divinity, know that your Atma Shakti Kundalini, the power of Self, has come into action.

14. While walking, when your mind is filled with an impulse to walk faster and your feet begin to move a running, you feel your body light like air and do not feel fatigued even having walked long enough, you feel buoyant and joyful, you are not unhappy even in dreams, you can keep the balance of your mind undisturbed in all ups and downs, and you acquire an inexhaustible energy for work, know that the Brahma Shakti Kundalini has come into action.

15. When you are in meditation you see visions divine and fall in a dreamy state of mind, have divine smells, see divine figures, feel divine tastes, hear divine sounds and experience divine touch and receive instructions from Gods, then understand that the divine power of Kundalini has come into action.

16. When you are in meditation, future unfolds its secrets to you or the hidden meaning of scriptures, Vedas and Vedntashine in your understanding, all doubts vanish, you acquire an insight into the abstruse meaning of the works on spiritual science even at their first glance, you acquire strange powers of oratory and feel not the need of approaching even Brahma, the creator himself, for knowledge and you acquire self-confidence, understand then that Kundalini the bestower of siddhis (occult powers) has come into action.

17. When seated for meditation your sight becomes fixed on the mid of eyebrows, your tongue rises up for Khechari, breath stops altogether and mind plunges into the ocean of bliss, shambhavi mudr operates and you experience the pleasure of savikalpa samdhi, know that subtle power of Kundalini is in action.

18. When at morning and evening hours punctually and automatically your body becomes charged with such of the divine influences, and body, mind and prnabecome overpowered by Her, know that the Goddess Kundalini is rightly functioning.  (See http://discerningtheworld2.wordpress.com/2007/12/17/choo-thomas-heaven-is-so-real-is-it-really/ )

In summary The jerking in Toronto, Brownsville or any other revival place is not a sign of the Holy Spirit but of a Kundalini demon which infiltrated Christianity mainly in North America through Rodney Howard Browne, THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns

The fact is the bible never talks about “jerking” being an attribute of the Holy Spirit but rather it states but the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control

THE KEY WORD HERE IS SELF-CONTROL AND WHEN YOU ARE POSSESSED BY A DEMONIC KUNDALINI SPIRIT THERE IS NO CONTROL AND THAT IS TOTALLY WRONG AND AGAINST SCRIPTURE

And anybody who has gotten involved with these Third Wave deceivers will testify that longsuffering and kindness are not demonstrated by the leaders or followers but rather arrogance, pride and intolerance and Bill Johnson is a classical example

The Bible teaches that God allows a “drunken spirit” on people who are under His judgment and about to be destroyed — drunk but not with wine — the same way He sent a deluding demon to falsely prophesy to Ahab.

This is the hidden understanding of all these strange manifestations at Vineyard meetings turned into Kansas City barnyards. God is allowing the Enemy to mock the people who ‘no longer tremble at His word” with grotesque manifestations.

Self control has to do with a lot of these God-sent but evil manifestations.

The spirit of prophecy is subject to the prophets, is also a part of self control.

But to apply it to speaking is a problem because of so many of the teachings on our lack of control over the tongue. In terms of the NAR, the lack of volition in some of these animalistic outbursts during praise and worship is a sign that this person is not of God, and God is allowing them to manifest as a sign to anyone who understands the Bible enough to identify it.

EXTRACT FROM Our Wonderful Redeemer
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DECEPTION

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While a slew of “prophecies” and messages from God stream from the lips and pens of self-professed “prophets” and “apostles” who permeate Pentecostal and charismatic churches and ministries, a recent “word from the Lord” caught our attention as it was widely distributed through one prominent THIRD WAVE charismatic news agency, CHARISMA. Self-professed “apostle” Ryan LeStrange recently wrote that God came to him and told him that He is calling this generation to “move in the supernatural,” for He is restoring the signs and wonders movement. According to LeStrange, God said, “There is a banner of fire being cast over this generation, and I am raising up voices who will release My wind and My breath upon the embers in order to fan the flame” (Charisma, “Prophecy: God Is Restoring the Signs and Wonders Movement,” 12-8-14). “God” continued, “I am raising up and establishing healing ministries in the earth as a sign and a wonder. I am sending forth prophetic ministries in the earth to awaken My people from their slumber.… I am casting the mantle of supernatural ministry upon My people. I am calling them to arise into the kingdom. The kingdom is supernatural. My sons and daughters are supernatural people called to signs and wonders.”

The content of this “prophecy” is the very kind of nonsense that has permeated Pentecostal and charismatic religion since the  false “Third Wave” came onto the scene under the leadership of C. Peter Wagner and John Wimber in the 1980s. Why anybody would actually believe that God has personally spoken to this false prophet or that God would actually utter such nonsense is beyond comprehension, and yet thousands of people are spiritually blind and actually heeding the words of such deceivers.

Christians must beware of any religious leader who claims to have a “word,” “prophecy,” or “revelation” from the Lord. The bible says all prophecies must be judged:
1 Corinthians 14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 “Test all things; hold fast what is good.

 How to Judge a Prophetic Word

If a person claims to have received a word from the Lord to give to you, the first important point is to “recognize those who labor among you, and are over you in the Lord and admonish you” (1 Thess. 5:12). Is the person respected in the church and in the body of Christ, or is he or she a rebel on the loose and a self-appointed prophet who left a church in a negative manner because the “pastor wasn’t spiritual enough”? At times pastors detect arrogance and pride and a wrong spirit, and this is why this lone ranger prophet or prophetess was removed from the assembly of the saints! So the first point is not to accept a word just because a person claims, “The Lord told me thus and so . . . ” Know something about the person’s reputation and character.

The second point is to examine if the word agrees 100 percent with the inspired Scriptures. Never, and I do mean never, will a word from the Holy Spirit contradict the Bible. The Lord will never tell a person to suddenly leave his or her companion for another “more spiritual” individual, because marriage is a covenant. (Some have done this in the name of “the Lord told me to.”) The Lord would never permit a person, in the name of Christian liberty, to participate in substances that cause drunkenness and addiction to an individual, for “drunkards” cannot “inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Cor. 6:10). God is not the author of confusion, nor is He the author of most church splits where individuals are hurt, offended, and quit serving God because of the confusion and distrust created when people divided their loyalty. God is the author of “peace . . . in all the churches” (1 Cor. 14:33).

The third point is that a prophetic word must agree with your spirit and will only confirm what you already know. Because vessels are human and subject to fallibility, prophetic words are to be judged by other mature and older people within the church, as it is written: “Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge” (1 Cor. 14:29). The Greek word for “judge” here is diakrino, which can mean to “separate thoroughly” and implies the ability to dissect what was spoken and see if it is a correct statement. The root word krino is a legal term meaning to make a decision on the basis of the information presented, similar to the informed decision a jury makes after hearing the pertinent information.

When you tell a person giving you a prophetic word that you are going to judge the message by sharing it with other mature believers, you will be able to tell if that speaker has the right spirit.
A humble sincere person will agree, but the “prophets” who speak out of their own spirits will become angry that you would even question their spiritual integrity and authority!

THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND FULL GOSPEL   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1EV
LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Wp
GOLD DUST http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Mm
THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L
THIRD WAVE COUNTERFEIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1ZS
THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr
THIRD WAVE OR CLOWNS FOR THE DEVIL http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-clowns
Drunk and Laughing “in the spirit” – Slaughter of the Sheep http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HBXGPAhd24
THIRD WAVE DECEIVERS http://www.scribd.com/doc/14708726
THIRD WAVE CHURCHES ARE VERY DECEPTIVE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-53
THIRD WAVE SEDUCERS http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/index.php/news/with-real-concern-for-the-third-wave-word-of-faith-signs-wonders-laughing-charismatics
EXPOSING THE COUNTERFEIT http://deceptionfree.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/exposing-the-counterfeit-in-the-emergent-church/
Strange Fire – Gold Dust and Gems Falling From Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb15EhgbvHA&list=UUNuuCQ3f4O6HM_gvmdqWGjg
FALSE Prophetess Heidi Baker and her “strange fish” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScRO7sa4uXs

 

 

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THIRD WAVE MOVEMENT

AFFALSE ONES IN THE DEMONIC THIRD WAVE TALKING ABOUT THE COMING PROMISED WEALTH TRANSFER LIKE TO QUOTE 

Proverbs 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his children’s children, But the wealth of the sinner is stored up for the righteous.
 
BUT THEY DON’T QUOTE 
 Jeremiah 20:5 Moreover I will deliver all the wealth of this city, all its produce, and all its precious things; all the treasures of the kings of Judah I will give into the hand of their enemies, who will plunder them, seize them, and carry them to Babylon.
 
SO HOW MANY HAVE RECEIVED THEIR PROMISED WEALTH TRANSFER YET?   NONE?  WHY NOT?

Where is the Wealth Transfer from the heathen to Christians promised by Third Wave deceivers such as Benny Hinn, Pat Francis, or Peter Wagner? Nonexistent and but not surprising considering these fools have no integrity?

On December 22, 2010 Benny Hinn told us  “Receive the Coming Supernatural Wealth Transfer”

The Word of God tells us clearly that the Lord told Abraham that his seed, Israel, would be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, that they would live in slavery, and yet 400 years later they would come out of slavery “with great substance” (Genesis 15:13-14).

The Lord promised that when His people Israel would leave Egypt, they would leave with the wealth of the Egyptians, with great substance! And that is exactly what happened! When Moses brought the children of Israel out of Egypt, the Word of God tells us that they “spoiled” the Egyptians (Exodus 12:36).

But notice that the wealth of the Egyptians was given to the Israelites just before they left Egypt. The wealth of the Egyptians was not given to them while they lived in slavery. It was given to them right before they left! Let me add something extremely important: The wealth of the Egyptians was given to Israel after the blood was applied, not before! They were a saved people, a delivered people, when they received the wealth of the Egyptians!

The Word of God says that what happened to Israel is a shadow, and we, the New Testament church, are the substance of that shadow.

What happened to them was our example, and what happened to them will surely soon happen to us; for just before we leave this world, right before the rapture of the church, God will give us the wealth of this world.

But Benny Hinn is a parasitical prosperity pimping preacher! He is a liar and a false prophet who loves to say “The LORD told me…” And for all his lies about “Why would the Lord be telling me to write to you about an unprecedented release of the anointing for the next 12 months?” HOW COME THE LORD DIDN’T TELL BENNY HINN THAT SUZANNE HINN WAS GOING TO DIVORCE HIM? MIND YOU SUZANNE HINN DID GET A WEALTH TRANSFER 50 % OF BENNY’S WEALTH AND SADDLED HIM WITH A $ 600,000 ATTORNEY FEES

Catherine wrote on March 7, 2011 and stated  I watched a little TBN yesterday to see if these preachers are still as bold as ever and I couldn’t believe it…First there was Benny Hinn actually asking for his $600,000 attorney’s fees. He was trying to come off as an “Oh, shucks” victim of his divorce… he’s “being attacked”…. but he “prayed and prayed about it”… but what he DIDN’T do was simply get rid of the lawyers and do what a real Christian would do.. settle it on the courthouse steps, turn the other cheek, perhaps… He actually asked his sheep to pay his legal fees!  Now… why don’t I have $600,000 legal fees? How does a person accrue $600,000 in legal fees? Why would he ask his sheep to feed the world’s system for his own personal benefit?  And why would people want to pay his legal fees???  That’s GOT to be illegal! To ask for your legal fees in a church?  There is SO much wrong with that that I won’t go on…

And then the next show was Mark Chirona… ahhh…  Bishop, Prophet, Doctor, Apostle, Master AND Life Coach….Mark Chirona, I went to see him once and he truly believes he’s a Vegas Act…with the outfits and singing to the captive audiences.  But anyway, I only caught the part where he actually said, “By the time I say “3”, I want you to call in with your donation.  One…. Two….THREE!!! ” How’s THAT for a tactic?  He is now Benny Hinn’s new chair warmer on his TV show.  Others don’t come back, but there’s Mark, probably getting 20% of the proceeds for sitting in Benny’s chair.

THE ONLY SO CALLED WEALTH TRANSFER THAT THESE LIARS TEACH ABOUT HAVE BEEN FROM THE BLIND SHEEPLE TO THESE WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING.  THEY LIVE IN THE MEGA MANSIONS, FLY AROUND IN CHARTERED JETS AND LIVE THE HIGH LIFE!  THE MORE THEY TEACH THIS LIE,,,,,,THE RICHER THESE PIMP PREACHERS BECOME!  NO WHERE IN THE WORD OF GOD ARE WE TAUGHT THAT WE CAN BUY GOD!  THE WORLD’S MANIPULATIVE WAY IS TIT FOR TAT.  YOU DO THIS MORE ME AND I WILL DO THIS FOR YOU,  THAT IS NOT GOD’S WAY!!  NOR, DID GOD EVER INTEND FOR HIS PRIESTS TO ROB FROM HIS PEOPLE.  ON THE CONTRARY, HE COMMANDED THEM TO STOP ROBBING AND CHEATING MY PEOPLE, STOP EXPELLING THEM FROM THEIR HOMES.  K.W.

 The Third Wave Movement is a Pentecostal or Charismatic movement that began in the 1980s. It is sometimes called the “Third Wave of the Holy Spirit” or the “Signs and Wonders Movement.” The name “Third Wave” was coined by C. Peter Wagner, a professor at Fuller Theological Seminary. He referred to the movement as the “Third Wave” because this was the third of three distinct Pentecostal/Charismatic movements in modern Christianity. The first wave was the original Pentecostal Movement that began in the early 1900s with the teachings of Charles Parham followed by the Azusa Street Revival. The second wave then came in the 1960s with the Charismatic movement. In the Charismatic movement, Pentecostal doctrines, teachings and practices began to spread to non-Pentecostal churches and denominations. This wave brought increased popularity to the “Word of Faith” or “Name It and Claim It” false teachings that are still popular today. Then, in the 1980s, another “movement of the Holy Spirit,” supposedly characterized by “signs and wonders,” began in the Vineyard Church with the teachings of Charles Wimber, Mike Bickle, C. Peter Wagner, Jack Deere, and others. Professor Wagner characterized this Third Wave as being “a new moving of the Holy Spirit among evangelicals who, for one reason or another, have chosen not to identify with either the Pentecostals or Charismatics.” Also known as the Neo-Charismatic Movement, this Third Wave of Pentecostal doctrine and excess became very popular and led to many aberrant teachings such as the Toronto Blessing and laughing in the Spirit.In addition to highlighting some of the melodramatic practices of the Pentecostal and Charismatic movements, the Third Wave goes even further with its emphasis on the sensational, including claims of signs and wonders performed by “modern-day apostles and prophets.”

Key teachings of the Third Wave Movement include what is known as “power evangelism.” The basic premise of power evangelism is that the preaching of the gospel must be accompanied with signs and wonders in order for people to respond in faith. Proponents of this view have an unbalanced focus on miracles, speaking in tongues, healing and prophecy. They miss the fact that it is the gospel message itself that is the power of God to salvation (Romans 1). Third Wave proponents essentially deny the sufficiency of Scripture and believe that God is communicating directly though modern-day prophets and apostles. Therefore, they believe that God is giving new revelation today which undermines the sufficiency and authority of Scripture. The words of these “new apostles and prophets” become more important than the clear teaching of Scripture. As with MANY Pentecostal/Charismatic movements, personal experience plays a greater role for determining “truth” than does sound doctrine.


The Third Wave is yet another movement that is based on people’s experience rather than on sound doctrine. Proponents of the Third Wave Movement believed that it would bring forth end-time apostles and prophets to do greater miracles than were performed by Old Testament prophets or New Testament apostles. These “new apostles and prophets” were said to be greater than any prophet or apostle that had preceded them. This teaching has resulted in many false prophets coming out of Third Wave churches.


Since its beginning in the 1980s, the Third Wave Movement has sparked a large number of counterfeit revivals. As the movement evolved, unbiblical practices such as “laughing in the spirit” continued to get more and more bizarre. In recent years some Third Wave leaders and churches have begun to separate themselves from some of the more aberrant practices and are trying to move back to more traditional Charismatic practices. This Third Wave of Pentecostalism has left in its wake a history of false teachings and destructive practices. Many have been led astray.

No matter  how you look at these people they are examples of people who because their love of money (1 Tim. 6: 10) replaces any love for Jesus, if in fact they had any.    They demonstrate clearly that, as Jesus said, “ No one can server two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other.  You cannot serve God and Mammon” (Matt. 6: 24).  They have chosen to serve and worship wealth and money personified in the form and temptation of the devil to choose him over Jesus.  As James so aptly wrote, “Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you.  Your riches  have rotted and your garments are moth-eaten.  Your silver and gold have rusted, and their rust will be evidence against you and will eat your flesh like fire.  You have laid up treasure for the last days….You have lived on the earth in luxury and in pleasure; you have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter” (Jas. 5: 1 – 3, 5).   This is the result of so-called “Prosperity Gospel”  which feeds “the love of money” is still the root of all evil.  Paul warned us, But those who have the desire to be rich fall into temptation , into a snare, into many senseless and  hurtful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction.  For the love of money is the root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced their hearts with many pangs (pains, physical torments).  Jesus is exposing all of these wealthy fools called evangelists and pastors whose love of money has proven that they have never served and worship Jesus Christ, nor have they listened to the Holy Spirit.  They provide a great entertainment that proves they are condemned to the lake of fire (Rev. 22: 15) because their names have been removed from the Book of Life (Rev. 3: 5; 13: 8; 17: 8; 20: 12; 20: 15; 21: 27; 22: 19).  They forget that Jesus is no fool.  The fool themselves and seek after the wrong treasure (Matt. 6: 21; 13: 24).  They generally choke when they read what Jesus said to the rich young man, “You lack one thing; go, sell what  you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven, and come, follow me” (Mk. 10: 21).  So, these famous preachers, evangelists, false prophets betray themselves by their life styles.”
Gordon Williams  http://gordwilliams.com/

WALTER KAMBULOW BLOGS  https://walthope.wordpress.com/  

http://walthope3.blogspot.ca

https://plus.google.com/100302133262254344211/posts

How Pastors Get Rich http://tinyurl.com/3azvjzy

NATIONAL AWAKENING IS A JOKE http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-sU

THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L

THIRD WAVE WEALTH TRANSFER IS BUNK http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-dr

PAT FRANCIS IS A PHONY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-93

SEED FAITH  Marilyn Hickey: Fairy Godmother of the Word-faith Movement   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8X

LIFE STYLES OF TELE EVANGELISTS http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-evangelist_lifestyles.html#.UV7X8_m8uUM

THE FOLLY OF NOT TRUSTING IN GOD BUT IN MEN

 BA

Jeremiah 17:5 Thus says the LORD: ” Cursed is the man who trusts in man And makes flesh his strength, Whose heart departs from the LORD.

ISAIAH 30 1 “Woe to the rebellious children,” says the LORD, “Who take counsel, but not of Me, And who devise plans, but not of My Spirit, That they may add sin to sin;
2 Who walk to go down to Egypt, And have not asked My advice, To strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, And to trust in the shadow of Egypt!
3 Therefore the strength of Pharaoh Shall be your shame, And trust in the shadow of Egypt Shall be your humiliation.
4 For his princes were at Zoan, And his ambassadors came to Hanes.
5 They were all ashamed of a people who could not benefit them, Or be help or benefit, But a shame and also a reproach.”
6 The burden against the beasts of the South. Through a land of trouble and anguish, From which came the lioness and lion, The viper and fiery flying serpent, They will carry their riches on the backs of young donkeys, And their treasures on the humps of camels, To a people who shall not profit;
7 For the Egyptians shall help in vain and to no purpose. Therefore I have called her Rahab-Hem-Shebeth

ISAIAH 31:1 Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help, And rely on horses, Who trust in chariots because they are many, And in horsemen because they are very strong, But who do not look to the Holy One of Israel, Nor seek the LORD!
2 Yet He also is wise and will bring disaster, And will not call back His words, But will arise against the house of evildoers, And against the help of those who work iniquity.
3 Now the Egyptians are men, and not God; And their horses are flesh, and not spirit. When the LORD stretches out His hand, Both he who helps will fall, And he who is helped will fall down; They all will perish together.

I was thinking about the real useless parasites in society and many of whom go into politics and i am talking about lawyers. Jesus Christ, Himself, cursed not blessed lawyers with “Woe to you” which doesn’t mean something good is going to happen to you?
Luke 11
46 And He said, “Woe to you also, lawyers! For you load men with burdens hard to bear, and you yourselves do not touch the burdens with one of your fingers.
52 “Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter in yourselves, and those who were entering in you hindered.”

This group is really from hell charging much money, doing nothing and playing around with words. They are totally useless and a necessary evil in our Canadian society

Business professionals live and play in the dimension of words and by networking with friends and contacts. It’s amazing that they accomplish anything of value as they are very inefficient and many of them are thieves

Being a former project manager and working with many managers. You would be amazed how many of them are incompetent and absolute bluffers and poker players who used their education to make very crappy reports and decisions

Many people are naive and too trusting of business professionals never mind politicians or preachers! The real staggering amount of financial losses that occur through trusting in so called professionals is very great. Never mind the Ponzi schemes that are conducted by many of them including by the son of a preacher and graduate from Oral Roberts University, Dan Strader, who is presently serving a 45 year jail term in Florida. See NOT INNOCENT http://www.scribd.com/doc/33762241

In February of 1993, Karl Strader, pastor of Carpenter’s Home Church in Lakeland, Florida, and his wife, Joyce, were in Hawaii for a Worship ‘93 conference, where Norvel Hayes prophesied that a tremendous great wind of the Spirit was about to come to them. Joyce Strader wrote in Ministries Today (July/August 1993, p. 38), “We arrived home Saturday night. That Sunday morning Carpenter’s Home Church began a planned one-week series of meetings with South African evangelist Rodney Howard-Browne But God had a surprise for us. The meetings went on for four weeks—with thousands flocking to the church to see and taste the new move of God…. But God never intended for it to last only a week. Full-blown revival has come to Central Florida and Carpenter’s Home Church.”

During the first few months of 1993, Rodney Howard-Browne spent a total of thirteen weeks at that church, and Christian leaders from many parts of the United States, including Richard Roberts, chancellor of Oral Roberts University, came to the meetings to observe and participate, and minister in the new anointing. Charisma (Aug 1994, p. 24), stated that people flew in for these meetings from Africa, Great Britain, and Argentina to see what was happening.

The effect of this so called revival in Carpenter’s Home Church and its lasting impact on the community, as documented by this book, included the robbing, raping and murdering of innocent God fearing elderly people by the Straders.

FAILED PROSPERITY http://tinyurl.com/35msnwl

In 2006, the church gained notoriety when Hammond took to the pulpit to endorse Rep. Michele Bachmann for her first election to Congress. Hammond’s backing prompted complaints to the IRS and raised eyebrows, since Hammond didn’t live in Bachmann’s district.

Hammond’s financial troubles come after years of financial growth for the church and for Hammond personally. The “prosperity gospel” Hammond preaches asserts that financial gain is a sign of God’s love. The church has several prayers about becoming debt-free.

“We, the body of Believers of Living Word Christian Center, declare we have been carved out for an end-time expression of El Shaddai, the God of abundance and no lack,” reads one such prayer on the church’s website. “We are taught how to live independent of this world system and how to have dominion over it, therefore, in Jesus’ name, we declare we are debt-free! The spirit of debt is destroyed over our lives and over this local church because of the anointing. We are the lender and not the borrower, the head and not the tail.”

WALTER KAMBULOW BLOGS

VICTORY MINISTRIES http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-r

https://walthope.wordpress.com/  

http://walthope3.blogspot.ca

https://plus.google.com/100302133262254344211/posts

https://plus.google.com/u/0/100327997934214585965/posts

GOT JESUS? http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-rW

REV. GORDON WILLIAMS VIDEO RESOURCES
Please click on the links below to watch Rev. Gordon Williams’ teaching videos. Please feel free to contact or email Gordon with any questions or comments.
http://gordwilliams.com/videoresourcesc217.php

THERE IS NO PROBLEM THAT JESUS CANNOT SOLVE AND NO SICKNESS THAT JESUS CANNOT HEAL
Gods Will Is Healing http://www.scribd.com/doc/12404063/
God Hears And Answers Prayers http://www.scribd.com/doc/12779089/

NEED HEALING AND MIRACLES FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS
http://youtu.be/qth2CNaXPbU

RECOMMENDED READINGS
THE BEST OF THE KAMBULOWS http://www.scribd.com/doc/122879429
WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED?  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-3
THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-4v
YOUR BEST FRIEND  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-5Q
Perseverance And Prosperity From The God of Restoration http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-5W
GORDON WILLIAMS DEMONSTRATED THE POWER OF GOD  http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-77
KAREN WILLIAMS THE MOMENT EVERYTHING CHANGED http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-64
The Power Of Christ http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8l
YOU ALONE HOLD THE KEYS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7l
Faith Is? http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7q
Gifts and Fruit of The Spirit http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7u
Our motto is, “No legitimate signs means a person is not sent from God” http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6S
The Character of Jesus http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7x
The Power Of Declaration http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7D
PASTORS, PREACHERS, EVANGELISTS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8u
ADULTERERS AND THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE STUPID http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7d
WHAT I LEARNED OUR RESPONSIBILITY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6i
IDIOTS ALL OF THEM http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7j
FREE EBOOKS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-n
What Happened to Jim Bakker and why? http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6W
THIRD WAVE REVIVALS http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-2L
FAMILIAR SPIRITS ARE REAL AND DANGEROUS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6x
Rebellious Kings and False prophets are dead men, rejected ones  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-6B
EXPOSED EXPOSED http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-M
Let No One Deceive You http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7H
Revival and The Character Of Christ! http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7J
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7L
“Sacred Name” or Witchcraft     http://vimeo.com/57329758
Christ In You, The Hope Of Glory http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7N
LIARS AND DECEIVERS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-7P
Take Heed, Beware Of The Leaven? http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-7S
BY BREAD ALONE http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-80
You Have A Friend In Jesus http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-83
DEVIL AND DEMONS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-86
It’s The Seed That Matters http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8b
“ZOMMERS AGE GROUP ARE BEING MURDERED IN HOSPITALS” IN CANADA http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-8f
The Mind Of Christ  http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8z
If God Is For Us? http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8n
WHY WORRY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8r
WRONG ANGER GRIEVES THE HOLY SPIRIT http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8E
I Wish You All Spoke With Tongues http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-tongues
RELAX, LET GO AND TRUST GOD http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-8L
STOP COMPLAINING AND DO SOMETHING! http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-stop
THINGS TO CONSIDER   http://wp.me/s2M7AJ-things
SEED FAITH  Marilyn Hickey: Fairy Godmother of the Word-faith Movement   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-8X
PAT FRANCIS IS A PHONY http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-93
WHAT IS BETTER? http://wp.me/P2M7AJ-9g
PROTECTION FROM DECEPTION http://joestallard.com/download/Protection_From_Deception.pdf