NOT STUPID

NOT AN EVANGELICAL APOLOGETIC

Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give.

1 CORINTHIANS 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; …5does not behave rudely,  is not provoked, thinks no evil;…7  bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Apologetics (from Greek ἀπολογία, “speaking in defense”) is the discipline of defending a position (often religious) through the systematic use of information.

Jesus Christ wasn’t stupid and He wasn’t an evangelical apologetic. He didn’t buy into the doctrine of demons that by speaking nice words, using systematic information, displaying the right attitude, behaving properly, He would win the opponent to his point of view!  Rather He first judged people and discerned who were his enemies and called them names to their face and consigned them to hell by His curses of “woe to you” which meant exactly what He said. Woe would come to them in the fires of hell! 

Jesus never tried to win an argument with anyone by persuasive words like many evangelicals are prone to do and call themselves apologetic. He won people over by telling them to repent and by His miracles, signs and wonders and told His believers to do the same! And He  commanded them to shake the dust off their feet from those who would not accept and hear them and they would pay for it on judgment day :

Mark 6:7 And He called the twelve to Himself, and began to send them out two by two, and gave them power over unclean spirits.
8  He commanded them to take nothing for the journey except a staff — no bag, no bread, no copper in their money belts —
9   but to wear sandals, and not to put on two tunics.
10 Also He said to them, “In whatever place you enter a house, stay there till you depart from that place.
11  And whoever will not receive you nor hear you, when you depart from there, shake off the dust under your feet as a testimony against them. Assuredly, I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city!”
12  So they went out and preached that people should repent.
13 And they cast out many demons, and anointed with oil many who were sick, and healed them.

Mark 16:15    And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
16    He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
17    And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;
18    they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.

Acts 2:22 “Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a Man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through Him in your midst, as you yourselves also know —

Acts 8
6 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.

13 Then Simon himself also believed; and when he was baptized he continued with Philip, and was amazed, seeing the miracles and signs which were done.

Acts 15:12 Then all the multitude kept silent and listened to Barnabas and Paul declaring how many miracles and wonders God had worked through them among the Gentiles.

Acts 19:11 Now God worked unusual miracles by the hands of Paul,

1 Corinthians 12
10 to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues.

28 And God has appointed these in the church: first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, varieties of tongues.

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THE WORKS OF THE FLESH

GALATIANS 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Pastor Mark Driscoll, founder of Mars Hill Church, Seattle, is one of the biggest names among evangelical Christians in the USA.  http://www.driscollcontroversy.com/

IF MARK DRISCOLL IS ONE OF BIGGEST NAMES AMONGST EVANGELICALS, IT DOESN’T SAY MUCH ABOUT EVANGELICALS BECAUSE DRISCOLL AND RON WHEELER ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE WORKS OF THE FLESH?

Mark Driscoll’s Board Responds to Acts 29’s ‘Divisive’ Moves

The text of the letter suggests no one from the Acts 29 church-planting network contacted Mars Hill before going public and that the board is “deeply saddened” about the “divisive” conclusion to disassociate from Driscoll without a conversation.
http://www.charismanews.com/us/44977-mark-driscoll-s-board-responds-to-acts-29-s-divisive-moves

YES THESE BAPTIST PASTORS ARE NUTS INCLUDING MARC DRISCOL AND JOHN PIPER

In the fall of 2004, my then wife had an affair with another pastor on staff (who was also one of my closest friends).  Our church had serious problems as it was, many as a result of my failing to lead properly.  Many of the things at the church were shaped by your influence, and some of that influence I still recognize as inspired, Biblical, and even prophetic at times.  Again, it is hard to express how much you helped us. Ron Wheeler Jr

John 8:7 So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.”

1 Corinthians 2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. 2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling. 4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, 5   that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

IN MY OPINION RON  WHEELER A FORMER PASTOR  IS NOT WITHOUT SIN NOR IN A POSITION TO CAST STONES AT ANYBODY INCLUDING MARC DRISCOL

TO ME ALL OF THIS IS A BIG SOAP OPERA AND ALL THESE GUYS ARE NUTS AND OFF THE WALL DOING THINGS IN THE FLESH AND BY THE FLESH!  NONE OF THEM ARE RIGHT NOR SHOULD BE IN THE MINISTRY

OF COURSE  NONE OF THEM PREACH THE GOSPEL IN DEMONSTRATION OF THE SPIRIT AND OF POWER BUT WITH PERSUASIVE WORDS OF HUMAN WISDOM. HENCE THEY CANNOT BE ACTS 29 SINCE THEY DON’T OPERATE IN THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT  NOR WALK IN THE SPIRIT BUT IN THE FLESH

I. Am. Not. Anonymous.

Posted on August 7, 2014 by ronwheelerjr

Dear Mark Driscoll:

You were once one of my closest friends.

You were once my trusted mentor and benefactor.

You were once someone who preached the Gospel with a fierce and captivating passion and purity.

You were the one who inspired me to be a preacher… a church planter.

In 1996 I was working as a missionary in West Africa when my mom sent me a recording of you speaking at the Northwest Christian Education conference.  I was intrigued, captivated, and a bit disturbed by what I heard. You deconstructed my tidy neat little worldview and described the church as a mission outpost that exists between the gospel message and various cultures.  That message convinced me that I could be a missionary at home, and so I returned.

I started attending Mars Hill with my family, driving an hour each way from Mount Vernon down to Seattle.  Mars Hill was maybe a 100 people back then.  I played on the worship team sometimes and listened intently to the vision you cast… a vision built on the Core Values of “Meaning, Truth, Beauty, Community, and Mission”. Those core values were such an invigorating breath of fresh air:

I longed for deeper meaning than the trite, mainstream Christianity-lite I was experiencing.
I longed to hear Truth boldly proclaimed.
I longed to be able to express art in beautiful contagious inspiring ways.
I longed to be a part of genuine, committed, Christ-centered community.
and yes, I longed to be on this great mission of the Kingdom of God, together.

I bought in.

Many of us bought in.

I remember you and Grace coming up to my house and challenging me to transition the awkward college-age ministry thing we had, and to plant it as a church.  I remember your assurances that you would walk beside us, and I remember distinctly how Grace said that “as long as we continue to give God the glory for whatever happens, He will continue to glorify Himself through what is happening”. That resonated with me, and for many years you walked beside me faithfully.  We were your first church plant, and for awhile, there was even some discussion about our church going with the name Mars Hill North.

I listened closely as you preached the virtue of Biblical Eldership, where men proven to be of sound character, pastor the church together and hold each other accountable, a supposed safe-guard against any one person lacking accountability or taking over.

It fit perfectly with what I saw in Scripture and was what I was drawn to myself.

I remember Leif Moi doing that with you.
I remember Mike Gunn doing that with you.
And I remember how excited you were when you first identified Paul Petry and Bent Meyer as men who could do that exceptionally well…  “wise, older godly men, who would add a degree of credibility” were your words to me.
I also remember when my brother-in-law Brian Kirkman went through the eldership process.  Brian, known to me as one of the most faithful, loving, gracious, godly men I know, and yet I believed your lies and how you characterized him.  He was unjustly removed and the way the Kirkman family was treated foreshadowed the shunnings that would occur with the Petry’s, the Meyer’s, and others. I have since gone to Brian and Liz to confess my complicity in how they were treated. It was so incredibly unjust.

My other two brothers-in-law would become elders as well, though both have since left. My sisters all led worship at MH, and were involved in various ministries as well.The degree to which my family was involved with Mars Hill cannot be overstated.

They all fully bought in as well.

Soon I began traveling the nation with you, speaking at various conferences, seminars and events.  It was such an honor.   We became involved on the ground-floor of this new movement that was shaping the landscape of evangelical Christianity. We were on the board of Young Leader network together. We were on the Terra Nova project together. We were working with some pretty amazing people.  These were the early days when there was talk of the postmodern era, and the Emergent church started “emerging” and New Calvinism had yet to emerge as a thing.  It was heady stuff.  It was also dangerous, as some of it started wandering far from historical orthodox Christian belief and practice.

But then I listened as you slandered and maligned the men and women we worked with behind their backs -who though we didn’t agree with some of them theologically- were wonderful people, and never deserved to be spoken of, or treated the way you did.  People who I know would have considered you a friend and have no idea how you really felt about them.  I have personally tried to go back and apologize to people who were “kicked to the curb”, along the way, and yes, I do feel I was complicit to your actions; guilty by way of association and being silent.

For that, I could not be more sorry.

I remember one day you called and mentioned that your book Radical Reformission was coming out the next day.  You started talking about how excited you were and then in a roundabout way, mentioned that you had used the parachurch/fundamentalism/liberalism concepts I had developed off the gospel/church/culture model.  It took me a moment to realize that you were saying you had used those ideas in your book and hadn’t cited me, and were both thanking me and smoothing things over.  I was honestly flattered, but I also had this uncomfortable feeling that you knew what you had done was wrong. But at this point, what was I gonna do about it? Like most things, I just let it go.

Then you met Pastor David Nicholas.  Remember David Nicholas?  The “co-founder” of Acts29, who often has been written out of the Acts29 story.  The one who actually came up with the name Acts29 and already had a church planting system in place.  Soon we were flying back to Boca Raton Florida to figure out how we could work together with this seasoned older PCA pastor (Presbyterian Church of America), you with your connections to all these church planter candidates flying under-the-denominational-radar, and David with his years of experience, his connections (friends like Tim Keller and Amway founder Rich DeVos), and his very wealthy church resources.  I loved David, and he loved us. He was fatherly to us. He could barely relate to our strange Northwest culture, and yet he partnered with us out of a passionate commitment to church planting.

I remember during one of our conferences somewhere around 2002, sitting at the table with you there in Boca, when you interviewed Rich DeVos on how he structured his business model.  I remember soon thereafter when you started talking about how it wasn’t that important that you knew your people or led them yourself, but that you “led the people, who led the people, who led the people”.   Unlike the Chief Shepherd who knows all His sheep by name, knows their voice, and they, His, you distanced yourself from them.  In fact, I remember you bragging about how you had this back corridor between your office and the stage and you didn’t have to be interrupted by anyone before or after church.   I was so confused.  I bought in to the meaning, truth, beauty, mission thing.  I certainly didn’t buy into this.

I had always tried to read all the books you recommended, but soon they became less and less about theology or pastoral practice, and more and more about marketing, professionalism and big business.  (I also remember recommending John Piper’s book “Brothers We Are Not Professionals” back to you, but it wasn’t enthusiastically received.  If only.)

And then all hell broke loose.

In the fall of 2004, my then wife had an affair with another pastor on staff (who was also one of my closest friends).  Our church had serious problems as it was, many as a result of my failing to lead properly.  Many of the things at the church were shaped by your influence, and some of that influence I still recognize as inspired, Biblical, and even prophetic at times.  Again, it is hard to express how much you helped us.

Much of that influence however, was very unhealthy and systemically flawed.  It took me many years of distance and separation to truly gain objectivity and see just exactly how flawed. For instance, I was patterning my/our discipline process after what you were doing.  One of those situations was with a man in leadership named Dale.  I will always grieve over the heavy-handed way we dealt with Dale. Not only was it ungracious and unfair, it was hypocritical.  Again, something for which I’m profoundly sorry.

Add to all that, some significant personal weaknesses and sins of my own, and I/we needed serious help.   I asked you for that help, and in customary fashion, you dropped the hammer. When all of your recommendations on discipline weren’t followed, you came unglued.  You cursed me up one side and down the other.  You threatened and berated me.  I have never been spoken to the way you did to me then.  It was vicious and startling.  I was reeling and devastated from what I had just discovered with my wife and close friend.

Then you involved yourself in our Eldership in a most irresponsible and reckless manner.  In hindsight, it never should have gotten to that point, and I accept full responsibility for that, but what I needed was trustworthy, Biblical accountability, and instead I got slander, threats, and verbal abuse.  We had good elders who were caught between a pastor dealing with personal and familial sin, and an outside accountability that was reckless, irresponsible and ultimately had a destructive influence on a once unified eldership.  I know it all now. I’ve read the communication you had with the other elders behind my back.  Ugly, slanderous, defaming lies, Mark.  I thought you were my brother and you treated me like scum.

On March 17, 2005, I sent a letter of grievance to the Board of Acts29, asking them to address what I had come to realize over time, were serious character flaws of yours.   I made the case that Biblically you were unfit and disqualified as an Elder. A case based off long established patterns of pride, lack of self-control, sexually vulgar and slanderous speech, exaggeration that bordered on deception, gossip about others and confidentiality issues. An excerpt from that letter stated: “The fact that Mark is an incredibly talented leader and charismatic personality, cannot in any way substitute for the simple Biblical requirements of being Christ-like, much less the qualifications of being an Elder. I can make a Biblical case from Titus regarding his being overbearing, quick-tempered, self-controlled, upright, and holy, as well as 1 Timothy regarding being above reproach, self-controlled, respectable, not quarrelsome, and a good reputation with outsiders”.

Not surprisingly, we got a response letter from the Board of Acts29 informing us that they would accept our resignation from Acts29, as we had made our continued participation in the network contingent upon their dealing with your issues.  Apparently, they lacked the fortitude and resolve to deal with your out-of-control behavior, and so became complicit themselves.  How the board of Acts29 abdicated their responsibility in this, is beyond my comprehension.  In addition, I was heartbroken as there were so many guys in the network that I loved.  Guys that I came to miss dearly over the next few painful, depressing years.  You asked me not to contact any of the guys and be “divisive”.  I never did, you know.  When I finally did just recently, I discovered that you had completely misrepresented what happened in my situation.  Thus, what I had seen you do to others, finally came full circle around to me.  It sucked. I didn’t like it at all.

The loss of those friendships, combined with the loss of my wife, my best friend,  and my church, led me into a few of the darkest years of my life.  A season I only survived due to the inexplicable buffer of God’s grace.

That wasn’t the only grievance letter that the Board of Acts29 received regarding you either.  Co-founder and Acts29 President David Nicholas sent one as well.  David was a mentor to you… he was your pastor I remember you saying.  Yet over time, Pastor Nicholas came to have grave misgivings about your character and conduct, personally brought it to you on multiple occasions, and finally wrote about them to the Board.  Yes, David was an imperfect, strong-willed, stubborn man sometimes, but he loved you.

David Nicholas is Not Anonymous.

David wanted the Board to come help our church work through this situation, but you wanted to do it your way. That added to the growing conflict between the two of you.  He had said that the Board would be coming to meet with our Elders during the Reformission conference, and then suddenly, somehow, you took over as President of Acts29.  I remember talking to David on the phone afterwards and him being stunned at what just happened.  You somehow had enough support to vote him off of the board.  Rick McKinley (a very good man) wanted nothing to do with any of this, and pulled out of the board and Acts29 altogether.  How you got the other guys to go along with that move, I’ll never know, but it foreshadowed a similar move that would happen with your own Eldership in 2007.

You consolidated power once more.
You chose to become pragmatic instead of principled.
You became opportunistic instead of obedient.
You mishandled sacred things.
You have abused theological positions as much as you have abused individual lives. You can’t run roughshod over people in the name of being “all about Jesus”.

For you, the ultimate endorsement was always driven by numbers, and we were like the Israelites of old who proclaimed to want a King like David, but were drawn to a King like Saul.  We all need to own up to the fact that we helped empower you to become what you have, through our willingness to eagerly endorse what you are, and you were more than happy to let us.  2 Timothy 4:3 describes a time when “people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions.” You had the right words.  You said the right things, and strangely, the right people kept endorsing you.

And yet your words rarely matched up to how you live:

You can’t preach Jesus and curse people.
You can’t preach Jesus and threaten people.
You can’t preach Jesus and be sexually vulgar.
You can’t preach Jesus and denigrate women.
You can’t preach Jesus and then shun people.
You can’t preach Jesus and give rich people special privileges.
You can’t preach Jesus and steal people’s material
You can’t preach Jesus and approve the use of funds for your desires instead of the donor’s desire.
You can’t preach Jesus and cheat your way onto bestseller lists.
You can’t preach Jesus and then force your people to not compete with you in spreading the gospel.
You can’t preach Jesus and then force people to either stay silent or not be paid.
You can’t preach Jesus and seek to become the “greatest of these”.
You just can’t. You see that right?

It can’t be “do as I say, and not as I do” for a pastor.

We need to see you be like Jesus, more than we need to hear you say “it’s all about Jesus”.

It really is this simple: to preach Jesus, you have to be like Jesus.

The final straw for me was this video you just released where you cited these anonymous detractors. To the masses watching, you may get away with “sounding sorry”, but to the hundreds…thousands even, who have been actually victimized, they need actual Biblical confession and repentance, the kind that is specific and identifies actual people and actual sins against them.  Evasive generalized statements only worsen the hurt.  Spin doctoring and ‘damage control” is just more of the same big-business marketing tactics that led to this systemic pattern of cancerous abuse in the first place.  Worse, it desensitizes and inoculates people to what real, genuine repentance looks and feels like.

So, why am I saying this to you now, Mark?

Why am I saying it like this, and after all this time?

Well, because you are unreachable through any other means. I’ve tried. Talk about being anonymous.  Who knows where you are, or where you live?   You have isolated yourself behind your ministry fortress and this is the only way to have a hearing.  I don’t even know if you’ll read this, but this is more about my being obedient to speak the truth of what I’ve experienced, and letting it be at that.

I’m also saying this because, like the apostle Paul, I know what it feels like to consider myself “the chief of sinners”.  I am firmly committed to the doctrine of total depravity, primarily because I know my own depraved self.  I know that it was only God’s kindness that led me to repentance. I have been brought low and learned to embrace having my own prideful ship dashed upon the rock of God’s discipline.

I don’t miss the man I once was.  I’m so, so very thankful for how God has refashioned and restored me.  Yes, I lost a lot, but I gained even more, and the only way that happens is through confession. True confession that abandons all justification, that repudiates all excuses, and embraces the revealing light of the Holy Spirit. I lost my marriage. I struggled with ugly patterns of sin and rebellion in my life.  I was lonely, depressed, confused, and stunned.  I flirted with temptation, and easily could have jumped off that cliff during those dark, lonely years, but somehow God preserved me.  Only God preserved me, that I know for sure.  It was terrible path, and yet it was exactly where God needed me, to do the long, painful work of surgery that my soul required. I remember you saying how you’ve never really had to suffer.  Well, perhaps this is that season.  It is a path I am begging you to embrace.  I hope and pray more than anything that you will not allow pride to have a stranglehold over your life.

You’ve destroyed people, Mark.  You’ve ruined people’s reputations.  Through your own perverse interpretation of “God’s grace”, you’ve cast people aside who you decided were not “on mission” spoke of “a pile of dead bodies behind the Mars Hill bus.”  The pragmatism backfired. What you won them with, is what you won them too, and now there are thousands who have been hurt, and who have hurt others.  Beautifully, many of them are finding forgiveness and healing as they reconnect with each other and grow in grace.

Please Mark.  Just stop. Step down. Resign.  There was a brilliant post today on Dave Orrison’s blog Grace for my Heart that defined the difference between a narcissistic apology and a real apology. The center of the narcissistic apology is the offender saying “I am hurting because of this.” The real apology sees the victim in the center and says, “You are hurting because of this.”  The difference – and a critical one – is empathy.  As my wife so insightfully noted, “a narcissistic apology is when the apology itself is actually abusive.”  It’s extremely manipulative.

The real problem is that this isn’t about an apology, and that’s what so many just don’t seem to understand. An apology might be at the center of the issue, but it’s not the circumference of the issue. This ultimately is about confession and repentance… something unique to our faith.  It may initiate with an apology, but it MUST transition into deep, honest confession that ultimately bears long-term fruit as the changed life of repentance.

In an excerpt from an email you sent to our elders on 9/4/2004 regarding my situation, you said:  “Repentance will take time, even years. Confession is agreeing with God, and repenting is changing.”  Do you remember that?  Those are your own words, and they are spot on.  I know.   I went through the process and it DID take years!  Longstanding patterns and habits must be refashioned. Repentance must be proven genuine and sincere through things like restitution and exoneration of people wronged.  All I’m asking you to do is to take your own advice.

Go to your brothers and sisters you have specifically offended and make it right.  There’s no other way.   If you do, I will gladly stand with you as a brother.  Anything else is simply too little, too late.  I believe that everything hinges on the integrity of your response to this crisis.

You could begin by exonerating Paul Petry, and Bent Meyer.  Refute that mockery of a trial and end their shunning.  I hurt over how you treated Leif Moi as well.  Such a loyal brother to you.

I once was afraid of what you might do to me if I spoke up.  I’ve come to the place where I care more about the truth being known, and healing and restoration beginning, than anything else.  The sharks are circling now, and it appears there are many who want only your destruction. I don’t. I want to see brokenness, humility, and change that I can support.

I love you and your family, and will be earnestly praying for you in all of this.

I have the same phone number and email. You know how to find me.

My name is Ron Wheeler.

I Am Not Anonymous.

http://ronwheelerjr.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/i-am-not-anonymous-2/

IDIOTS ALL OF THEM

ISAIAH 11: 1 There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse, And a Branch shall grow out of his roots. 2 The Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon Him, The Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. 3 His delight is in the fear of the LORD, And He shall not judge by the sight of His eyes, Nor decide by the hearing of His ears; 4 But with righteousness He shall judge the poor, And decide with equity for the meek of the earth; He shall strike the earth with the rod of His mouth, And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked.

ACTS 7:51 “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you. 52    Which of the prophets did your fathers not persecute? And they killed those who foretold the coming of the Just One, of whom you now have become the betrayers and murderers, 53    who have received the law by the direction of angels and have not kept it.”

Hi Walter:

RV 3:5 “He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

MT 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was deceived by the wise men, was exceedingly angry; and he sent forth and put to death all the male children who were in Bethlehem and in all its districts, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the wise men.
de•cep•tion (d¹-sµp“sh…n) n. 1. The use of deceit. 2. The fact or state of being deceived. 3. A ruse; a trick.

Anybody can be deceived and many Christians are thinking they are once saved always saved, they have a very special relationship with God, they are better than others, and God will defend and avenge them? In most cases it’s all a deception because they have not met God’s conditions to be true for them! In other words they are not true men or women of God

Yes, there are some believers who have never received the Gift of Speaking in other national languages (tongues) and do not have the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. But, this prevents them from having the kind of relationship with Jesus and doing the ministry to which we are all called. There is no doubt that some people hear God speak to them occasionally. But we are supposed to hear Him speak to us everyday. When Jesus said to each of the Seven Churches in the Book of Revelation and commanded each of them, “He who has an ear let him hear what the Spirit says to the Churches” (Rev. 2: 7, 11, 17, 29; 3: 6, 13, 22), He is tell us to listen to the Holy Spirit every day. Hearing occasionally from God is not what He desires.

The Holy Spirit is supposed to speak to us every day. This is what the Greek says in John 16: 26: “he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said and done” every day. Not an occasional time when He can catch our attention. He, the Holy Spirit, is called Counsellor (Grk. defense attorney). He is supposed to be able to “guide you into all the truth” every day. Being able to hear from God is not supposed to be once in a while when He can catch our attention. No, all of that changes when we receive the authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the “signs following” because speaking in tongues is God’s new communications system. Without the “signs” (Mk. 16: 17 – 18) we are not authentic believers (Greek definition defined in the Greek Lexicon (dictionary). To rely on some teacher who speaks in tongues is not adequate. People who reject what Jesus wants us to have are deceiving themselves.

It is easy for people to dismiss applying the “adding and taking away from the Book of Revelation” which is true. But, there is no dismissing what Paul said to the Corinthian Church who had two groups of people in the church who did not want to accept the Baptism of the Holy Spirit when he wrote “I have applied all this to myself and Apollos for your benefit brethren, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up (full of pride) in favour of one against the other” (1 Cor. 4: 6). This means, in an other way, “don’t add or take away from the Scriptures”. When a person does this, they appear to be arrogant as if all the work that Jesus has done for us is not necessary, that in some way or another, I can pick and choose what I want out of the Scriptures, like some kind of a spiritual smagasbord.

Rejecting the any of the Gifts of the Holy SpirIt, especially the Gift of speaking in national languages (Grk: 1 Cor. 12: 10) is at the least a subconscious or conscious rejection of God’s daily communications system so a person does not have to listen to what Jesus or our Heavenly Father wants to say to us every day through the Holy Spirit. This arrogance has led many people away from their “Normal Christian Life”. It reminds me of what happened when God led the Israelites out of Egypt and up to Mount Sinai. Remember, they did not want God to speak to them, “Go near, and hear all that the LORD (Yahweh) our God will say; and speak to us all that the LORD (Yahweh) will speak to you; and we will hear and do it” (Deut. 5: 27).

Our God wants to have a personal speaking relationship with us daily which He establishes with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and as described on the Day of Pentecost all 120 believers were filled with the Holy Spirit and had the proof of speaking in new languages. Rejecting, the good Gifts (Lk. 11: 13) of the Holy Spirit demonstrates that people are in rebellion against God’s will and they will use any excuse, like the Israelites, so they will not have to listen to Him everyday.

In the Corinthian Church were  three groups of people: believers who were Baptized with the Holy Spirit and had the initial gift of speaking in tongues; unbelievers who were seeking for God; a group of new believers who rejected the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Gifts of the Holy Spirit. These new believers did not have the Holy Spirit and they rejected the work of the Holy Spirit. The Greek word to describe them is “idiotes” singular, “idiotoi” plural from which we derive the word “idiot” or “idiots” which describes “one without professional knowledge, ignorant and common person” which is the same definition in Greek. These people are what Paul describes when he wrote, “The unspiritual (psychikos) man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually (pneumatikos) discerned” (1 Cor. 2: 14). Unspiritual person is one who does not have the Holy Spirit and who betrays himself to others who do by his/her rejection of the the Holy Spirit and His Gifts (1 Cor. 12: 13; Rom. 12: 6 – 8; 1 Cor. 12: 8 – 10). Such people make their decisions by means of their human spirit/soul (psyche).

Do you not know about John MacArthur?  He is identifying people who are false apostles, teachers and prophets and who are obviously not doing the work of the Holy Spirit.  He is correct on the one hand but on the other hand, he blasphemes the Holy Spirit by denying that the Baptism of the Holy Spirit with the “Signs Following” and the “Gifts of the Holy Spirit” are for today.  And, attributes them to the devil or demons. He, himself, blasphemes the Holy Spirit because he cannot identify the legitimate works of the Holy Spirit.  He is a cessationist who believes that the miraculous work of the Holy Spirit stopped with the first apostles.  He is widely known to be against the legitimate works of the Holy Spirit.  Many years ago, a man who did research for MacArthur, put my first report on the Toronto-so-called blessing on his web page.  He was trying to use my report to substantiate the wrongs in the TACF even though he did not agree with me about the Holy Spirit.  His message, which I listened to, is about character building and correcting other people’s ideas about the Doctrine of the Trinity.  If you listen to it carefullly, he never refers to the authentic New Testament miraculous works of the Holy Spirit.  He does not have a healing ministry.  He is a modern-day Pharisee of whom Jesus described when he said, “You are wrong because you know neither the scriptures nor the power of God” (Matt. 22: 29).  I was given a collection of his books (3 box full) a couple of years ago but he just doesn’t get it. And, of course, he doesn’t know or understand the Holy Spirit and His works.  He is a model-evangelical who has never received the Holy Spirit and operates on a human understanding.  He is best described by Paul, who wrote, “The unspiritual man (psychikos) does not receive the gifts (things) of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually (pneuamtikos) discerned” (1 Cor. 2: 14).  I would be very careful about referring people to him.  As the TACF is wrong on the one side, he is equally wrong on the other side.  The truth is in the center with the New Testament which neither side wants to accept and so they both “blaspheme against the Holy Spirit”.

Yours in Jesus Christ,  Gordon
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YES IDIOTS REMAIN IDIOTS AND “LOVE COVERS ALL SINS” DOESN’T MEAN WE ARE TO ACCEPT LIARS, DECEIVERS, JUDIAZERS AND WOLVES IN SHEEP’S CLOTHING?
RATHER THE BIBLE TEACHES WE ARE NOT TO BE PARTAKERS WITH THEM AND TO WITHDRAW FROM THEM

IT SEEMS THAT MANY CHRISTIANS ARE DECEIVED IDIOTS WHO DON’T BELIEVE IN EXPOSING ANYTHING EVEN THOUGH APOSTLE PAUL THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT INSTRUCTED CHRISTIANS
EPHESIANS 5:6    Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.
7    Therefore do not be partakers with them.
8    For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light
9    (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth),
10    finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.
11    And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
12    For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.
13    But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.
14    Therefore He says: ” Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light.”
15    See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise,
16    redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
17    Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is.

1 Timothy 6:5 useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.

2 Thessalonians 3
6    But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us.
7    For you yourselves know how you ought to follow us, for we were not disorderly among you;
8    nor did we eat anyone’s bread free of charge, but worked with labor and toil night and day, that we might not be a burden to any of you,
9    not because we do not have authority, but to make ourselves an example of how you should follow us.
10    For even when we were with you, we commanded you this: If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.
11    For we hear that there are some who walk among you in a disorderly manner, not working at all, but are busybodies.
12    Now those who are such we command and exhort through our Lord Jesus Christ that they work in quietness and eat their own bread.

Revelation 3:19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten. Therefore be zealous and repent.

People who are devoid of miracles, signs and wonders, ie the power of the Holy Spirit, are deceivers who have a form of godliness but deny it’s power and are deceiving others

JUST BECAUSE SOME IDIOT SAYS HE IS AN APOSTLE MEANS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. LET HIM PROVE THAT HE IS AN APOSTLE BY DOING WHAT JESUS DID
Matthew 4: 23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease among the people.
John 2:15 When He had made a whip of cords, He drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen, and poured out the changers’ money and overturned the tables.
Acts 10:38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power, who went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with Him.
Hebrews 3:1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

Fundamentalists including Baptists usually preach character but ignore what is also important and that is operating in the gifts of the Spirit as defined in 1 Corinthians 12 and 14
Don’t forget that Jesus wasn’t nice to king Herod and openly called him a fox Luke 13:31 On that very day some Pharisees came, saying to Him, “Get out and depart from here, for Herod wants to kill You.”
32 And He said to them, “Go, tell that fox, ‘Behold, I cast out demons and perform cures today and tomorrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.’

AND JESUS MADE US KINGS AND PRIESTS SO WE HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO NO MAN

ANY PREACHING THAT IS NOT IN THE PATTERN OF THE NEW TESTAMENT IS HOGWASH! THE NEW TESTAMENT TELLS HOW WE ARE TO PREACH UNDER THE NEW COVENANT WITH THE ANOINTING OF THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT: ACTS Acts 6: 5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude. And they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and the Holy Spirit, and Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, and Nicolas, a proselyte from Antioch,
6: 8 And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and signs among the people.
8: 5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria and preached Christ to them. 6 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did. For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed. 8 And there was great joy in that city.
http://sacred-truths.blogspot.com/2012/01/be-filled-with-all-fullness-of-god.html

As a Christian, you have authority over the forces of the enemy. “Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you” (Luke 10:19).

As a believer you have been given authority over all the power of the enemy, but not every Christian walks in this authority. Nevertheless, the authority is still there.

Grace is God’s willingness and ability to empower you with His abilities. Since nothing can defeat God, with His power in you, nothing can defeat you. So the next time you face the enemy, don’t run away from God and the things of God. Instead, run to God. Access His power and take dominion over sin.

GALATIANS 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
20    idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
21    envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
THAT MEANS THOSE WHO PREACH HERESIES SUCH AS REFORMED THEOLOGY ARE HERETICS WHO WILL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD

WHEN FOOLS SUPPORT PEOPLE LIKE PRESIDENT OBAMA OR ANY OTHER FOOL OVER THE WORDS OF JESUS THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF THE KING OF KINGS BUT BELONG IN HELL FOR JESUS WHO DOESN’T LIE TAUGHT THAT UNDER THE NEW COVENANT EACH BELIEVER HAS A PERSONAL PENTECOST WITH MIRACLES SIGNS AND WONDERS FOLLOWING.  AND THERE IS NO HATE IN TELLING THE TRUTH THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HELL ALONG WITH OTHER LIARS AND UNBELIEVERS AND ACCURSED ONES WHO PREACH A DIFFERENT GOSPEL THAT JESUS OR APOSTLE PAUL PREACH ACCORDING TO RV 21:8 “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

FOR THE RECORD BIBLE KNOWLEDGE, SINCERITY, DISOBEDIENCE AND OTHER VIRTUES OF THE FUNDAMENTALIST OR EVANGELICAL  FAITH MEAN NOTHING TO GOD WHO CAUSED HIS SERVANT JUDE THE BROTHER OF JESUS TO STATE FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL 1:19 These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. 1:20  But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 1:21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

THE HOLY FAITH WHICH MOST CHRISTIANS DON’T HAVE MEANS BUILDING YOURSELVES UP ON YOUR   MOST HOLY FAITH PRAYING IN THE SPIRIT IE PRAYING IN TONGUES WHICH UNBELIEVERS EVEN IF THE CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS  CANNOT DO!

AND BECAUSE THEY ARE TOTALLY IN THE FLESH AND NOT IN THE SPIRIT THEY DEMONSTRATE THE WORKS OF THE FLESH INCLUDING HERESIES SUCH AS REJECTING THE BAPTISM OF THE SPIRIT WITH THE EVIDENCE OF TONGUES THAT JESUS PROMISED FOR BELIEVERS UNDER THE NEW COVENANT AS PER ACTS 1:4  And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me;
1:5 “for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.”
1:6 Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?”
1:7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.
1:8 “But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
GALATIANS 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

SOUTHERN BAPTIST PAUL WASHER IS AN IDIOT AND SO ARE CALVINISTS!  THE IDEA THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT  WAS SLEEPING DURING THE DARK AGES AND ONLY WOKE UP AFTER THE PRINTING OF THE BIBLE AND THE  BEGINNING OF REFORMATION AND SOLA SCRIPTURA IS HOGWASH.  GOD NEVER STOPPED HAVING ANOINTED PENTECOSTAL BELIEVERS WHO OPERATED IN THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT  SUCH AS ST. PATRICK WHO STATED “The Lord hath given to me, though humble, the power of working miracles among a barbarous people, such as are not recorded to have been worked by the great Apostles; inasmuch as, in the Name of Our Lord Jesus Christ, I have raised from the dead bodies that have been buried many years; but I beseech you, let no one believe that for these or the like works I am to be at all equaled with the Apostles, or with any perfect man, since I am humble, and a sinner, and worthy only to be despised.”

Sola Scriptura is unbiblical. Nowhere does the bible teach that the bible alone is our sole authority. Rather it states JN 16:13 “However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come.

Many try to say 2 Tim 3:16-17 teaches it. It says that scripture is inspired and profitable.  However, nowhere does it say that it is sufficient, or that it contains all inspired truth necessary to know, or that only scripture is profitable. In fact, if you try to use these verses to prove scripture is all you need, then if you look at verse 15, you will see that Paul is talking about scripture that Timothy knew since infancy, the Old Testament. You will have just proved that you do not need the New Testament because the book of Isaiah has the whole Full Gospel in it. http://olrl.org/lives/patrick.shtml

THE BIBLE IS CLEAR THOSE WHO PRACTICE THE WORKS OF THE FLESH INCLUDING DISSENSIONS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD JUST LIKE THOSE WHO PRACTICE ADULTERY, FORNICATION, IDOLATRY,  SORCERY OR DRUNKENESS

FUNDAMENTALISTS AND EVANGELICALS  ARE DEMAGOGUES WHO ARE DEVOID OF POWER AND ALWAYS LEARNING BUT NEVER COMING TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF TRUTH 2 TIMOTHY 3:7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
3:8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith;

THE GOOD AND GREAT  NEWS IS THAT GOD SHALL NEVER HEAR OR ANSWER THE  PRAYERS OF FOOLS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE FALSE AND DECEIVED ONE AND NOT ME.  THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE DEVOID OF POWER MIRACLES SIGNS AND WONDERS AND ALL THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT. SO UNLESS THEY  REPENT THEY SHALL BE IN HELL IN JESUS NAME

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THE CHARACTER OF JESUS AND PAUL

MATTHEW 12:9    Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue.
10    And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?” — that they might accuse Him.
11    Then He said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?
12    Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
13    Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other.
14    Then the Pharisees went out and plotted against Him, how they might destroy Him.
15    But when Jesus knew it, He withdrew from there. And great multitudes followed Him, and He healed them all.
16    Yet He warned them not to make Him known,
17    that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying:
18    ” Behold! My Servant whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased! I will put My Spirit upon Him, And He will declare justice to the Gentiles.
19    He will not quarrel nor cry out, Nor will anyone hear His voice in the streets.
20    A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench, Till He sends forth justice to victory;
21    And in His name Gentiles will trust.”
22    Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and mute man both spoke and saw.
23    And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
24    Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons.”
25    But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand.
26    If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?
27    And if I cast out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.
28    But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.
29    Or how can one enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house.
30    He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.
31    “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32    Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
33     “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.
34    Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
35    A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
36    But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
37    For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

MANY EVANGELICALS LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF JESUS  WHO IS THE EPITOME OF LOVE AND DIDN’T QUARREL WITH ANYBODY AS PER THE SCRIPTURES He will not quarrel nor cry out  WHICH IS NOT TRUE WHEN WE COMPARE HIS WORDS Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things?

BUT JESUS THE EPITOME OF LOVE AND CHARACTER DIDN’T GO AROUND BLESSING PEOPLE WITH WORDS. HE DIDN’T BLESS THE RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL LEADERS OF HIS DAY BUT CURSED THEM WITH WOE TO YOU?. ‘WOE TO YOU’ DOESN’T MEAN SOMETHING GOOD IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU ESPECIALLY WHEN SPOKEN BY GOD INCARNATE.

YES JESUS, THE EPITOME OF LOVE AND CHARACTER, BAD MOUTHED PEOPLE. HE CALLED THEM ALL KINDS OF NAMES INCLUDING HYPOCRITES, MURDERERS, SERPENTS, BROOD OF VIPERS, LIARS, BLIND GUIDES, SONS OF HELL, ETC. HE TOLD THEM THEY WOULD NOT ESCAPE THE CONDEMNATION OF HELL (MATTHEW 23:15, 33, LUKE 11:24-25, 23:38-31) AND THEY DIDN’T!

AND APOSTLE PAUL TELL US Titus 3:2 to speak evil of no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing all humility to all men.
BUT PREVIOUSLY IN TITUS 1  PAUL STATED 10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
11    whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.
12    One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”
13    This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
14    not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
15    To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.
16    They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

ISN’T IT SPEAKING EVIL OF SOMEONE TO SAY “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons” NEVER MIND For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,  whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.

ADVOCATING THAT THE MOUTHS OF IDLE TALKER AND DECEIVERS MUST BE STOPPED IS TO BE QUARRELSOME?  ISN’T PAUL CONTRADICTORY IN TITUS?WELL I DISLIKE PREACHERS TREMENDOUSLY ESPECIALLY THE MOTIVATIONAL KINDS WHO TALK AND TALK BUT IN REALITY ARE DEVOID OF THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT UNLIKE MY FRIEND AND PASTOR GORDON WILLIAMS.

JOSEPH PRINCE, JOEL OSTEEN, KENNETH COPELAND, CHARLES STANLEY, RICK WARREN AND MANY OTHERS LIKE THEM CANNOT DO WHAT PHILIP DID OR GORDON DOES
ACTS 8:4 Therefore those who were scattered went everywhere preaching the word.
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria and preached Christ to them.
6 And the multitudes with one accord heeded the things spoken by Philip, hearing and seeing the miracles which he did.
7 For unclean spirits, crying with a loud voice, came out of many who were possessed; and many who were paralyzed and lame were healed.
8 And there was great joy in that city.

TO A PERSON WHO IS HURTING OBVIOUSLY IT’S BETTER TO HEAR “TAKE UP YOUR BED AND WALK” THEN “KEEP THE FAITH” OR “ENDURE” WHICH IS WHAT MOST FOOLS PREACH AND SAY, AS THEY CANNOT DEMONSTRATE THE MIRACLE WORKING POWER OF GOD OR SAY WHAT APOSTLE PAUL AND TRUE ONES CAN SAY:
1 CORINTHIANS 2:1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,
5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
Spiritual Wisdom
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,
8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written: ” Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10 But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.
11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.
16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
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NOTES ON JOSEPH PRINCE
BEWARE: Joseph Prince Is A DANGEROUS False Teacher
Dan Corner
Joseph Prince (born in 1963) is the Pentecostal senior pastor of one of Asia’s biggest churches (New Creation Church) and the author of the best-selling book entitled, Destined To Reign. Concisely stated, he presents his book as a type of secret cure all, but after comparing it to the Bible it is nothing more than a dangerous spiritual snare to the unwary and unlearned! Joseph Prince lures people in with his remarkable claim stated on the front cover — The secret to effortless success, wholeness and victorious living. Instead of Destined To Reign being the secret to something new, it really only offers the same old scriptural distortions used by past eternal security teachers, who have been around for a long time! Prince even admits to such towards the back of his book!
It was so good to hear from a seasoned man of God who had preached this same gospel even before I was born. (Destined To Reign, Harrison House, 2007 edition, p. 254)
Sadly, Prince takes his devoted Pentecostal fans through his warped presentation of what he calls grace and the gospel and leaves them totally off guard, misled and an easy target for the devil! Joseph Prince is much worse than the typical prosperity teacher. He has gone far beyond the gospel of greed as he mixes in various once saved always saved concepts as the panacea for victorious living, including stopping sin and getting physical healing! His effortless success gospel has apparently been swallowed hook, line and sinker by far too many gullible people. If not, he wouldn’t have such influence and popularity as he does. It is the purpose of this critique to prove the inaccuracy of what Joseph Prince teaches about various key issues central to Christianity. All quotes come from the 2007 edition of Destined To Reign by Joseph Prince and published by Harrison House. (All emphasis is my own, unless otherwise stated).
Joseph Prince Is Wrong About How to Get Born Again
Joseph Prince teaches to become a Christian, every person must make a personal decision to receive Jesus as Savior (p. 137). What that means to him is revealed at the end of his book, which would be found on page 315 if numbered. It is there that he has his Salvation Prayer:
Lord Jesus, thank You for loving me and dying for me on the cross. Your precious blood washes me clean of every sin. You are my Lord and my Savior, now and forever. I believe that You rose from the dead and that You are alive today. Because of Your finished work, I am now a beloved child of God and heaven is my home. Thank You for giving me eternal life, and filling my heart with Your peace and joy. Amen.

Prince teaches a so-called gospel devoid of Biblical repentance and based on mental assent, as he implies his heretical once saved always saved belief. Just pray a little prayer and you’re forever saved while in your sins. He brushes off the vital necessity of turning away from wickedness by misapplying the meaning of repentance and therefore doesn’t teach saving faith and its accompanying crucifying the flesh (Gal. 5:24). Joseph Prince stated:
Repentance just means changing your mind. When John the Baptist said, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” he was essentially saying, “Change your mind, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” (p. 233).
The truth is, if one doesn’t turn away from his sins, he will never find true salvation to begin with. That is the fate of all who believe Joseph Prince (and many others antinomians like him). Jesus said the Ninevites repented at the preaching of Jonah (Mt. 12:41) and Jonah 3:10 states they turned from their evil ways. So repentance means turn from evil ways, according to the Lord Jesus. That is Jesus’ definition and he cited the actions of the Ninevites as repentance. He further said one must do that or perish (Lk. 13:3,5). So the first mistake Joseph Prince makes is of the greatest magnitude and involves how to be born again and start the Christian life, but there is much more!

Permanent Righteousness Without Doing What Is Right
Joseph Prince teaches the typical eternal security imputed righteous message as his secret, which is glaringly lethal:
My friend, righteousness is a gift because of what Jesus has accomplished on the cross for you. All your sins – past, present and future – have been washed clean by His precious blood. You are completely forgiven and from the moment you received Jesus into your life, you will never be held liable for your sins ever again. You have been made as righteous as Jesus…. (pp. 28, 29)
He sees you clothed with Jesus’ righteousness. So begin to see yourself clothed in Jesus’ righteousness. (p. 29)
The more you realize that you are righteous, the more victory you will experience over sin! Wake up every morning and give thanks that you are the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ. (p. 31)
Is Jesus righteous before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He accepted before God? Yes! Then so are you. Is He well-pleasing before God? Yes! Then so are you. (p. 58)
God cannot see your sins when they are covered by the blood. (p. 209)
Don’t uncover your sins or the sins of others. They have been completely forgiven by the blood of Jesus (p. 211).
When God looks at you, all He sees is the blood of Jesus that makes you completely righteous. (p. 251)
There is no argument that Jesus is our righteousness (Rom. 1:17; 1 Cor. 1:30; Phil. 3:9; etc.), but that righteous standing before God can change and has for some:
If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,” and, “A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud.” (2 Pet 2:20-22)
Without question Peter is referring to people who had experienced the radical new creation change at salvation and were set free from their sin addictions (Rom. 6:22) at a past point. They knew the way of righteousness (Jesus Christ), but afterwards again got entangled with sin and overcome! They became backsliders, who were previously washed, but returned to the filth and defilement of wickedness. Peter states they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness. In other words, they were not a backslidden Christian still bound for heaven, as Joseph Prince might say. They were on the road to hell again, but worse off than before they were born again, forgiven and made righteous! In other words, Peter believed (and wanted all Christians to know) one’s righteous standing before God can change over sin! Joseph Prince opposes Peter’s grace teaching, and scores of other passages to teach the perpetual righteousness heresy to the spiritual harm of all who are deceived by him.
A Christian is righteous because of his present tense faith in The Lord Jesus (Rom. 3:22). The issues with Prince involve what type of faith in Jesus does it take, and can that faith cease to exist or become destroyed (among other things)? The answer is, it takes a present tense saving faith, which submits to and follows Jesus in obedience to remain righteous after getting born again. Moreover, true saving faith can cease to exist and become destroyed (Luke 8:13; 2 Tim. 2:18; 1 Tim. 1:19; Rom. 11:19-23). After salvation, sin can nullify a Christian’s righteous and holy standing before God and make him unholy, impure, unrighteous and spiritually dead! [See chapter 7 of the book, The Believer’s Conditional Security: Eternal Security Refuted.] All through the Bible we are warned that if a righteous man turns and does evil, he will die spiritually because of it (Ezek. 33:18; Rom. 8:13 cf. Gal. 6:8,9; etc.). In contrast to those clear scriptures, Joseph Prince teaches an ear-tickling, do-nothing success gospel, which seems to exalt the blood of Jesus, but really dangerously distorts it. Again, his teaching is nothing new and God surely didn’t reveal to him his secret to effortless success! [It is true that success to get to heaven is uniquely in the Lord Jesus, but only through a submissive faith in him and for those who endure to the end (Mt. 10:22; Heb. 3:14; Rev. 2:10,11).]
God’s ETERNAL Truth About The Righteous
In an effort to protect the sheep and combat dangerous false teachers in first-century Christianity, the Apostle John wanted all to know the vital details about who is and who isn’t righteous. His teaching seems custom made for Joseph Prince and his tens of thousands of gullible followers:
Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. He who does what is sinful is of the devil …. (1 John 3:7,8)
That passage is a devastating bombshell to the false grace and counterfeit gospel taught by smiley Joseph Prince (and others like him) and therefore should be memorized and taught often. NOTE: The Apostle John knew much better about the precious holy and cleansing blood of Jesus than Joseph Prince, yet never taught anything like, when God looks at you, all He sees is the blood of Jesus that makes you completely righteous. John stated it is only he who does what is right who is righteous! A person doing sinful things is of the devil. That is God’s truth and what all Christians should believe. It has nothing to do with whether the person sinning wants to do sinful things or not! He who does what is sinful is of the devil, but again Joseph Prince denies that, teaches against that message and simultaneously states all through Destined To Reign that he is hearing God’s direct voice! Sometimes he and God are dialoging with each other about the spiritual! Do NOT be deceived by such a claim!

The Apostle Paul collaborates with John and drives another nail in the theological coffin lid of Joseph Prince’s putrid grace message:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey – whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? (Rom 6:16)
No one can conclude from that verse that righteousness is permanent and unchanging, even without OBEDIENCE! So, how then can Joseph Prince successfully deceive so many by teaching the opposite? Paul taught of a righteousness, which comes from obedience! That isn’t law, but his grace teaching!

Our Future Sins Are NOT Automatically Forgiven
The grace understanding of the senior pastor of the 20,000+ member Singapore New Creation Church is worse than lacking, according to scripture! Prince actually stands behind the once saved always saved concept that our future sins are already forgiven before they are committed, which means the person in any of the sins cited in 1 Cor. 6:9,10; Eph. 5:5-7; Mark 7:20-23; Rev. 21:8; etc. will dismiss them as both already forgiven and hidden from God, which sets them up to be thrown into the lake of fire! [Prince also teaches all sin is of the same degree (p. 60) and thereby contradicts 1 John 5:16,17 and other scriptures.] Folks, it’s apparent the devil doesn’t believe our future sins are already forgiven because he continues to tempt us to sin! The devil knows, as the Bible so clearly says from cover to cover, that spiritual death will come on the righteous who do evil (Rom. 6:16; 8:13; Gal. 6:8; etc.). It is the devil (and Joseph Prince), NOT GOD, who wants Christians to think their future sins are already forgiven!
… there is no sin that a Christian is not forgiven of. (p. 91, bold emphasis his)
His blood that was shed forgives all your sins – past, present and even future sins. Many Christians have the erroneous belief that only their past sins have been forgiven. They believe that when they received Christ, only their past sins were forgiven. So they believe that they have to be very careful from that point onwards. (p. 44)
… Jesus has cleansed you of the sins of your entire life and you are now sealed with the promise of eternal life! (p. 95)
The more you believe that all your sins are forgiven by the blood of Jesus, the more you will become whole – body, soul and spirit! (p. 95)
scripture teaches the Christian’s future sins are NOT already forgiven before committing them and God can see the sins committed by those who have been born again! The scriptural evidence is clear and conclusive. Continuous forgiveness is not automatic. To be forgiven after becoming a child of God, among other things, one must forgive those who sin against him:
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins. (Mat 6:14,15)
That scripture alone decimates the doctrine that a Christian’s future sins are already automatically forgiven! Don’t be deceived about that or God being unable to see the sins of a person previously saved, because of the blood of Christ. Jesus taught if you disown him, he will disown you (Mt. 10:33) and Paul repeated the same truth (2 Tim. 2:12). Peter taught only our past sins are forgiven (2 Peter. 1:9) – the very point Joseph Prince openly opposes!

Furthermore, all through Revelation chapters 2 and 3 you’ll notice that their future sins were not forgiven and Jesus could see them! He stated they forsook their first love, were lukewarm, were tolerating Jezebel, holding to the teaching of Balaam, etc. NOTE: That is the real Lord Jesus himself, after the cross who knows all about his own blood and saving grace! Jesus told 5 of the 7 church groups to REPENT, but you will never hear that type of directive given by Joseph Prince nor the hell warnings that accompany it (Rev. 2:5; 3:16; etc.)! How could the same Lord Jesus who taught those spiritual treasures and Joseph Prince be dialoging together resulting in Prince’s putrid antichrist doctrines? Impossible!
When God looks at you today, He sees you covered with Jesus’ blood and completely righteous. Only the devil, you yourself and the people around you will bring your sins to your remembrance. (p. 98)
When you are under grace, even when you fail and fall short of God’s standards, God still sees you as righteous because of Jesus Christ. (p. 146)
Remember, Joseph Prince teaches effortless success! According to him, you don’t have to be careful to avoid all appearances of evil (1 Thess. 5:22), pray to be led from temptation (Mt. 6:13), etc. Sin is not the issue with his gospel and you don’t need to be careful, guarded or conscious of sin. How different his doctrine is from the Holy Spirit inspired, forever-settled written word of God about sin and the Christian life. God’s real truth is:
But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving. For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person – such a man is an idolater – has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Therefore do not be partners with them. (Eph 5:3-7)
We must pay more careful attention, therefore, to what we have heard, so that we do not drift away. (Heb 2:1)
Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. (1 Tim 4:16)
See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that turns away from the living God. But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness. We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first. (Heb 3:12-14)
Futhermore, the Lord Jesus taught we need to make a continuous effort to enter God’s kingdom:
Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, “Make every EFFORT to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.” (Luke 13:23,24)
Does that seem like effortless success to you? How about these passages?
For this very reason, make every EFFORT to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge; and to knowledge, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; and to godliness, brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness, love. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But if anyone does not have them, he is nearsighted and blind, and has forgotten that he has been cleansed from his past sins. Therefore, my brothers, be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For if you do these things, you will never fall, and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. (2 Pet 1:5-11)
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every EFFORT to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. (2 Pet 3:13,14)
Make every EFFORT to live in peace with all men and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord. (Heb 12:14)
I have the same hope in God as these men, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man. (Acts 24:15,16)
But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway. (1 Cor 9:27)
In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. (Heb 12:4)
Joseph Prince Clearly Has a False Gospel Which Opposes 1 Cor. 15:2
Joseph Prince has a false gospel which glaringly contradicts and opposes the real gospel of grace, as detailed in 1 Cor. 15:2.
By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
Under grace, the Christian is responsible to hold firmly to the truth for his own salvation’s sake! To believe in vain is to be without eternal life at that point and apparently is a real valid danger or it wouldn’t have been stated! Many other similar warnings and Christian responsibilities are cited throughout the New testament.

Joseph Prince Contradicts Himself But No One Seems To Notice
Like other false teachers, Joseph Prince teaches opposite messages, yet it seems that no one notices or cares! (A contradiction is a definite sign of error.) His popularity isn’t affected and continues to grow! His followers have turned to his myths (2 Tim. 4:3,4). Ponder these Joseph Prince teachings:
… the more you are under grace, the more sin will be depleted of its strength. (p. 26)
… the more grace you receive, the more power you have to overcome sin. (p. 26)
When you are under God’s grace and His perfect forgiveness, you will experience victory over sin. (p. 45)
… I find that in the scriptures, victory over sin is found in the preaching of God’s grace. (p. 249)
Sin does not stop God’s grace from flowing, but God’s grace will stop sin. (p. 249, bold emphasis his)
According to Joseph Prince, the remedy to overcome sin is simply GRACE! Since Joseph Prince teaches effortless grace, how can he also inconsistently teach the following contradictions and successfully get away with them?
1. He implies in the following quote that all Christians are sinning all the time:
If you really believe that you need to confess all your sins to be forgiven, do you know what you would be doing? You would be confessing your sins ALL THE TIME! (p. 107, bold and capital emphasis his)
COMMENT: Certainly there must be some Christian somewhere who understands Biblical grace (his remedy) and would have complete victory over sin and therefore would not have to confess his sins all the time! Isn’t that true?
2. Joseph Prince thinks he is teaching like Paul, yet still smears the Apostle Paul as doing evil (the things he hates) and not overcoming sin!
… Paul himself wrote about: “For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do.” I am writing to believers who have this genuine struggle with the law and who like Paul are crying out, “O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?” (p. 167)
COMMENT: Just like other grace changers, Joseph Prince smears the Apostle Paul as practicing evil and being a wretched man overcome by sin, even as a Christian. It is the typical misuse of Rom. 7:14-25. Why wasn’t Paul able to overcome sin, as a Christian? He certainly understood grace and righteousness, and according to Prince that’s what it would take! That is a major contradiction since Paul was a true genuine grace teacher. Joseph Prince also compares Paul (the grace teacher) to believers who struggle with the law!
3. Joseph Prince impugns the entire church at Corinth as being sinful, implies they didn’t understand grace and were in need of more true grace teaching to overcome sin:
Yet, we know that the church in Corinth was in a mess. The people were involved in all kinds of outwards sins. They were in strife, envy and jealousy, and some of them were even going to temple prostitutes … All in all, there were all kinds of immoral activities going on in the church of Corinth. (pp. 257, 258)
COMMENT: Since the Corinthians were taught grace from Paul (the true grace teacher) and sound grace teaching is the key to overcoming sin (according to Prince), then it is inconsistent to say, there were all kinds of immoral activities going on in the church of Corinth. There would have to be NO immoral activities going on there, since Paul taught them the real pure facts about grace! Prince contradicts his own central doctrine, yet no one seems to notice or care! The true holy image of being a Christian has been blotched by smearing the Corinthians, as Joseph Prince does! The envy and strife at Corinth was about their favorite preachers (1 Cor. 1:12 cf. 3:3-6)! There is NO evidence that any in the Corinthian congregation were seeing temple prostitutes! NONE! If they had been, they would be identified as unrighteous and would NOT enter God’s kingdom (1 Cor. 6:9,10). By teaching as he does, Joseph Prince apparently believes there are Christian whoremongers, which is impossible (Rev. 21:8). The truth about their real behavior is revealed in a passage too few seem to know:
I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people – not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat. (1 Cor 5:9-11)
How could the Corinthians not associate with professing Christians who were sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler, IF THEY WERE DOING THE SAME THINGS? Think! Obviously, the Corinthian Christians were NOT doing those kinds of sins and were taught about grace, yet the grace changers (like Joseph Prince) teach otherwise!
If someone has really known and experienced grace and the gift of no condemnation, he will NOT want to live in sin. Sin will be the last thing on his mind!… Grace always results in victory over sin! (p. 167)
The truth is, the Corinthian Christians had the following observable evidence of saving grace, as all Christians do:
We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. (1 John 2:3,4)
Again, the Biblical criterion for being a possessor of eternal life violently contradicts Joseph Prince and his effortless success gospel! Dear reader, which will you believe?
4. Repeatedly, Joseph Prince subtly downplays the seriousness of any sin committed after getting saved by say they were already forgiven and God can’t see them! However, if you disagree with his teachings your wrong believing is disobedience (SIN)!
The problem with the church today is wrong believing. I’m sorry to tell you this, but if you refuse to believe what God has said about the forgiveness of sins in the new covenant, then you are actually in disobedience. (p. 97)
COMMENT: Does Joseph Prince now believe such a SIN isn’t already forgiven and God can see it?
The No Longer Angry Mythical god Of Joseph Prince
What about God’s anger and wrath – does it come on people who were once saved? Of course the never saved do have the wrath of God abiding on them (Eph. 2:3), but the issue at this point with Prince is over people once saved:
… His anger is toward those who have rejected Jesus … we will never be punished because we have already received Jesus. As believers, God is no longer angry with us because all His anger for our sins fell upon Jesus at the cross. (p. 41)
Under the new covenant, God will never again chastise the believer for his sins! (p. 65)
What does this mean, my friend? This means that there is no more judgment for you when God looks at you. (p. 127)
The Singapore ear-tickler strikes again! Joseph Prince has a very high batting average as far as declaring venomous concepts and mere empty words! How can we be sure? Paul taught the Ephesian Christians that God’s wrath would come on them for being disobedient in the area of immorality, impurity and greed (Eph. 5:5-7). The same passage states they would lose their inheritance to God’s kingdom over those sins. In other words, Paul’s grace message warned true Christians they could lose their salvation! Paul definitely was NOT an eternal security teacher. Since Prince doesn’t agree with Paul, Joseph Prince is DANGEROUSLY wrong and a snare to SOULS!
Remember also that God struck Ananias and Sapphira dead for lying to the Holy Spirit (Acts 5:1-11). Not only does that prove God got angry with them, but he could also see their sin and that future sin was NOT already forgiven before it was committed! It wasn’t hidden by the blood of Christ! BTW, all liars go to the lake of fire, Rev. 21:8.
Because of Jesus’ finished work at the cross, He will never be angry with you nor rebuke you even when you fail. (p. 305)
Jesus himself told the Thyatira congregation:
Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols. I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling. So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways. I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds. (Rev 2:20-23)
NOTE: Sexual sin angers God and it will drag the unrepentant to eternal fire before or after initial salvation (Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8; etc.)! That is the consistent message of the real Lord Jesus Christ (Mark 9:43-48). Any teaching which states once a person gets saved, his future sins can never drag him to hell is of the devil, regardless who is speaking it out.
The Christian can never be lost…. (p. 254)
Paul and Timothy and Joseph Prince
According to Prince, if one believes in the real gospel of Jesus the result will be health and prosperity:
… when you believe the gospel of Jesus, which is based entirely on His grace, it will result in health and prosperity. (p. 23)
Whatever your need is today, whether it is physical, emotional, mental, social or financial, your solution is found in a greater revelation of Jesus. (p. 189)
Since Paul and his traveling companions were dressed in rags at times and Timothy had stomach and frequent illnesses, then logically Prince must think neither Paul nor Timothy believed the real gospel of Jesus and needed a greater revelation of Jesus!
To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. (1 Cor 4:11)
Stop drinking only water, and use a little wine because of your stomach and your frequent illnesses. (1 Tim 5:23)
Folks, Joseph Prince is teaching religious myths and they go on and on. Perhaps, his convoluted unwitting conclusions, which even indict Paul and Timothy, are possibly better understood from the following:
Some Christians are not able to receive healing because they are not able to receive forgiveness. They are still sin-conscious and doubt their forgiveness. They believe that God may have forgiven their past sins, but not the sins of their whole life. (pp. 186, 187)
In other words, once you know that you have been forgiven of all your sins, past, present and future, the healing of all your diseases follows. (p. 290)
Does it really matter if you condemn yourself and allow your sin debt to remain on your conscience even after Jesus has overpaid it? Yes, it matters because apart from dishonoring the work of Jesus on the cross, sin-consciousness makes you avoid God, and can produce in you condemnation, sicknesses, diseases, depression and a cycle of sin! (p. 185)
Sarcastically I say, had Paul and Timothy only understood things the way Joseph Prince teaches them in Destined To Reign things could have been better for them! They could have had health and prosperity and Paul would have been set free from his cycle of sin. Of course, Prince is wrong and Paul was set free from his sin addictions and was living holy and exemplary.
Once Saved Always Saved or Eternal Security
Without doubt, Joseph Prince believes in and teaches once saved always saved or eternal security, even though he didn’t clearly state such in Destines To Reign:
A believer has already received the gift of eternal life and will never be “subject to eternal condemnation”. (p. 92)
The Christian can never be lost…. (p. 254)
You are His beloved child regardless of what you have done. (p. 302)
He loves you and will never judge or condemn you! (p. 303)
Folks, that is the essence of the devil’s first lie to mankind (Gen. 3:4), that is, sin will not produce spiritual death for the righteous. From the parables of the Lord Jesus to the Pauline epistles to Jesus precious words to the seven churches in Asia (Rev. 2 and 3), it is explicitly clear that there is no eternal security. Here are just a few passages to ponder:
‘For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.’ So they began to celebrate. (Luke 15:24)
The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. (Gal 6:8,9)
My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins. (James 5:19,20, NASB)
Be faithful, even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown of life. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death. (Rev 2:10,11)
Tidbits Of Distortions
Here are several other shocking distortions of scripture from his book. For your own sake, please compare Joseph Prince to the following scriptures:
Prince thinks we confess our FORGIVEN sins because we are already forgiven:
Listen carefully: We don’t have to confess our sins in order to be forgiven. We confess our sins because we are already forgiven. (p. 104)
No one could get that out of 1 John 1:9, the verse he refers to. Here is the real truth of God:
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
Prince also stated:
Similarly, when you think that you can still save yourself, God’s grace cannot flow. (p. 267)
But Peter taught people to save yourselves and God’s saving grace did flow to 3,000 people:
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day. (Acts 2:40,41)
Also, if Prince is right, why did Paul write Timothy the following directive?
Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers. (1 Tim 4:16)
To teach sin is not an issue for a believer and a believer’s future sins are already forgiven, Prince distorts one of his primary proof texts. First is his quote:
When the Bible declares in 1 John 1:7 that the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin, the tense here in the Greek for the word “cleanses” denotes a present and continuous action. (pp. 247, 248)
Somehow Joseph Prince forgot to state the condition needed to receive a present tense cleansing of sin and, thereby, violently distorted its meaning. Here is how it actually reads and must be understood:
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)
What is Prince’s goal? In part, it is stated here:
Stop examining yourself and searching your heart for sin. (p. 187)
Is that a valid goal to be teaching under grace? If so, then Paul was teaching wrongly:
A man ought to examine himself before he eats of the bread and drinks of the cup. (1 Cor. 11:28)
Prince says if you study your Bible it will show that every time the children of Israel murmured and complained, it only brought forth fresh demonstrations of God’s favor, supply and goodness.
Study the Bible yourself. You’ll find that every time the children of Israel murmured and complained, it only brought forth fresh demonstrations of God’s favor, supply and goodness. (p. 222)
In contrast, the Biblical record says the following about their complaining:
Now the people complained about their hardships in the hearing of the LORD, and when he heard them his anger was aroused. Then fire from the LORD burned among them and consumed some of the outskirts of the camp. (Num 11:1)
Could it be Prince is NOT studying his Bible, but listening to strange dark voices he wrongly thinks is the Lord’s?
Joseph Prince Exalts God’s Love For Us But Not Our Love For Him
Prince stresses God’s love for us and implies it is the only and ultimate issue:
But I know the truth today. I know that even when I fail, God and I are still “tight” (we are still “cool”, you know what I mean?) because of the blood of Jesus. God still sees me as His beloved. I have the gift of righteousness apart from my performance. I know that God still loves me, that our fellowship is not broken and that His favor still flows in me. Beloved, there is nothing you can do today to make God love you more, and there is nothing you can do to make Him love you any less. (p. 300)
The truth is, our love for God is needed for our salvation (1 Cor. 16:22; 1 Cor. 2:9; James 2:5) and, therefore, is the real issue! God loves even unsaved people, who are on the road to hell (Mark 10:21). It is our love for God that is a salvation issue. To show our love for God we must OBEY him:
If you love me, you will OBEY what I command. (John 14:15)
Jesus replied, “If anyone loves me, he will OBEY my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.” (John 14:23)
This is love for God: to OBEY his commands. And his commands are not burdensome, (1 John 5:3)
According to Prince, that would be law! The truth is: OBEDIENCE is not law keeping, legalism or a works salvation! Obedience to God’s commands is love for God and a manifestation of saving faith in Jesus. NOTE: God’s commands are not burdensome (1 John 5:3)! Jesus said his yoke is easy (Matt. 11:29), which we wear when we follow him and do his will. So, it’s our love for God that is the variable and critical factor which the devil tries to ruin by getting us to sin! The truth is scripture speaks of both the kindness and sternness of God, unlike the warped image Joseph Prince gives of God. Here is the real God of the Bible:
You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I could be grafted in.” Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will not spare you either. Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. (Rom 11:19-23)
Rom. 11:19-23 is a devastating blow to eternal security and once saved always saved! We are advised under true grace to be afraid because we can get cut off too! DO NOT BE DECEIVED!
Joseph Prince WRONGLY Claims To Hear The Audible Voice Of The Lord
All through his book, Joseph Prince claims he is able to hear and sometimes even dialogue with God back and forth about spiritual things! Imagine that! That seems to be an unhealthy, but common, trait of the Word Faith crowd, from which he is coming. By stating such, Joseph Prince is subtly exalting himself to a prophet-like infallible position, where he must be correct, since he hears God’s voice directly. He starts very early in his book with his claim:
I distinctly heard the voice of the Lord on the inside. It wasn’t a witness of the Spirit. It was a voice, and I heard God say this clearly to me: “Son, you are not preaching grace.” (vii)
If you believe that Joseph Prince can hear God’s voice like he claims, he has you hooked and you will believe his lies! Logically, you would also have to believe what he teaches! But folks, how could Joseph Prince be hearing the voice of God since his teachings are so dangerously different from what the Bible teaches about grace, the gospel, sin, the Christian life, eternal salvation, etc.? He can’t be! It’s impossible! Do NOT be deceived! If God was speaking to Prince he would scathingly rebuke him for his heretical teachings which are stumbling others, but the voice he is hearing is much different! It can’t be God voice for it has resulted with the poisonous contents of his book, Destined To Reign!
…God spoke to me. He began to show me more clearly than I had ever seen before …. (p. 214).
I heard the Lord speaking to me on the inside. He said, “Stop disqualifying My people! My blood has already qualified them. Stop disqualifying them!” (p. 272)
… the Lord spoke to me and said …. (p. 278)
… the Lord asked me … The Lord said to me … The Lord continued … the Lord said to me (p. 280).
Again, and in conclusion, Joseph Prince might be hearing voices, but they are not the voice of the Lord since his doctrines are in such disharmony to what is stated in the Bible. Don’t be deceived by the smiley, fluent and popular Joseph Prince as he preaches, My friend, you are destined to reign in this life (p. 34). The truth is, if you aren’t living holy now you aren’t a Christian now and living godly will bring about persecutions (2 Tim. 3:12) and the related! Take warning!
But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them–bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. (2 Pet 2:1-3)

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REV. GORDON WILLIAMS VIDEO RESOURCES
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THERE IS NO PROBLEM THAT JESUS CANNOT SOLVE AND NO SICKNESS THAT JESUS CANNOT HEAL
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BEING EVANGELICAL IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
Matthew 12:50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
2 Timothy 3:5 But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come:2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,3 unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!

Many Evangelicals are into “Bibliotary” in that they worship the bible as the word of God and ignore Jesus who is the Word of God.

John 1:1    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

They have also missed the whole point for the necessity of receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and that is not only for witnesses in the power of the Holy Spirit but worshiping God in spirit and truth as Jesus instructed that His true disciples would do.

John 4:23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”
John 7:37   On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”39 But this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified.

Our of their hearts there is no flow of rivers of living water which Jesus said would be indicative of true Christians. They have missed the whole point for the necessity of receiving the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  They have no personal relationship with Jesus and the Holy Spirit.  They are just religionists  who have never received the real, authentic Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

When they talk about “the Word of God”, like most evangelicals,  they are  referring to the Bible.  They do not realize or want to, that although we have the written word of God in the Scriptures, we have the living Word of God in Jesus Christ Himself and that the Holy Spirit equips the Church with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit and changes us be removing the works of the flesh and replacing them with the Fruit of the Spirit.  He makes all of this an old form of Works Righteousness.  Most of their sermons or teaching show an absence of the references to the Holy Spirit.  And when receive salvation and the Baptism of the Holy Spirit we come to realize  that Jesus can actually talk to people and  that He talks to us.

Evangelicals in error believe that everyone receives the Holy Spirit when they believe.  And, their idea of what a worship service is supposed to be has nothing to do with what Paul writes in 1 & 2 Corinthians using the Gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Some falsely purport seven characteristics of the first church:
1. They answered the call to repent.
2. They received Christ as revealed through scripture.
3. They left the perverse generation (or the world system).
4. They gladly received the word.
5. They continued in the apostle’s doctrine and fellowship with each other.
6. They were self-giving rather than self-serving or self-seeking.
7. They rejoiced with gladness and praised God – this is true worship.

They do not see as most Christians observe that “the birth of the Church happened on the Day of Pentecost” when the 120 believers  were Baptized with the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues and were sent into the world to be witnesses and the proof  was the “Signs Following”.   This life is empowered by the Holy Spirit so the Holy Spirit can be our Counsellor and which means that He is supposed to talk with us and give us direction for the Church and individuals (Jn. 15: 7 – 15; Rev. 2: 7, 11, 17, 29; 3: 6, 11, 22).

When Bible teachers talk about the Bible being a “Paper Pope”, what they are referring to a person who does not have the personal relationship with Jesus Christ and have never received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.  They are what I call godly men but they are not “Spiritual Men” meaning they are as Paul described, “Any one who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him’ (Rm. 8: 9).

What they describe as “true worship” is not the worship that Paul described (1 Cor. 14: 26f).  They cannot say, as Paul wrote, ….nevertheless I am not ashamed, for I know whom I have believed and I am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.   They  can only say, I know what I have believed but never Whom which means the personal relationship with our God.

Finally Evangelicals cannot say what Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 2:
1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God.2 For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified.3 I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much trembling.4 And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power,5 that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.
6 However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,8 which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
9 But as it is written:
” Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,
Nor have entered into the heart of man
The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
10     But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.11 For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
13     These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.16 For “who has known the mind of the LORD that he may instruct Him?” But we have the mind of Christ.