TITHING

BAIS TITHING VALID UNDER THE NEW COVENANT?

 I see the prosperity teachers sell books and DVDs and ask for donations on fb and TV but that’s not something i would want to emulate.

H.P. WRITES

I used to be prosperous without much effort other than committing my way to the Lord.  It was when i joined the Word of Faith church that i lost everything due to the sowing and reaping doctrine (which is actually in the Bible).  I sowed everything into the kingdom instead of the bank.  I was encouraged to do this by the entire Kenneth Copeland team who went over all the scriptures.  That was my financial doom. Over the past 20 years, I was believing God for my harvest but it never came.  I noticed the ‘mastercraftsmen in the desert’ passage over 10 years ago and tried my hand to different things including, singing and acting.  I asked for wisdom, even compiling a book on Proverbs.  I’ve asked for favor many times, and sent my angels out too.  I see the prosperity teachers sell books and DVDs and ask for donations on fb and TV but that’s not something i would want to emulate.  My needs being met is a covenant promise that is free and already belongs to me.  Why  i don’t see it in my life, exceedingly more than i could think or ask, is a mystery to me.

Evil men who use and teach tithing for their own gain are nothing but criminals, money grabbing thieves.   They are interfering with the covenant and deceiving hordes.

My pastor is a compulsive gambler!  He gambled a huge donation to build a church in an overseas ‘investment’.  Lost the lot.  He also took the tithes of the church which were meant to pay the bills and renovated his house with them!  He did this two years running and then the members had to have an emergency meeting to pay the bills.  This pastor takes the mission money and goes on mission/holidays overseas.  The Lord told me clearly to flee all this and he spent the next three years un brainwashing me and healing me spiritually and emotionally.

The Lord showed me to stop tithing NOW.  I was a bit shocked and realized i tithed because i feared the devourer Mal 3.  I protested to the Lord that the devourer would destroy my finances!!!’ While i was still hyperventilating the Lord reminded me of my former prosperity and how broke i had been since i started tithing.  It was bringing the curse onto me because it belongs to the law not grace. I stopped immediately and before long, i was able to support myself for the first time in 15 years.  Soon i hope that complete financial restoration and compensation will begin for me. It’s not God’s fault.  It’s not my fault.  Evil will turn up in the most unexpected places.  I have learned wisdom and discernment through fire.  Still I survived, just, and continue to wait upon the Lord for a fulfillment of his promises.

I am a great believer in Word of Faith Theology and the prosperity principles but not in one man led TV Evangelists who are off the wall.

A.S. WRITES

We too often hear Church sermons on the need to give money to the local storehouse, supposedly the local church, under the heading of tithing being even applicable today? Tithing was divinely instituted by God under the old covenant and was compulsory only upon the people of  Judah. Israel  ( upon Jews only)  who worshiped God. Under the new covenant we are not bound by these now redundant  laws;

Galatians 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

IT IS TRUE, A FACT THAT FOR  many years many people have been looking even for the one Bible verse that would make them rich and famous too. AND TOO MANY  PEOPLE ARE LEAD FALSELY TO BELIEVE THAT TITHING WILL LEAD TO, GUARANTEE  FINANCIAL PROSPERITY (1 Tim 6:10 KJV)  For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.11 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. 12 Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.

Pastors these days  who falsely now  demand tithes are still not only liars, imposters, Bible ignorant, Not led by God to do this but are thieves cause not only did the tithes belong always   to God only and to be used in the way God had intended it to be used but tithes ate not applicable these days not sanctioned even by Jesus Christ and the Apostles in fact. As there is not one verse confirming tithing in the new testament as still being applicable and do prove me right!

There were several types of tithes, according to the source of Israelites’ income: the tithes from the land (seed and fruit) and the tithes from the domestic animals (flock and herd). In other words, God HAD expected His people to set aside one tenth of all OF THEIR increase (income).

By the way tithing was not to be used for the upkeep of the local temple structure now as well but was for the support of the temple workers, the poor people and even for the benefit of donator’s family. The upkeep of the temple was still done by separate offerings..

Numbers 18:20 (NIV) 20 The LORD said to Aaron,  You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any share among them; I am your share and your inheritance among the Israelites..

(Deu 12:17 KJV)  Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand: but (Deu 14:23 KJV)  And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.

2G.W. WRITES

The “Law of Sowing and Reaping” has only to do with “sowing of the seed of the Word ( Matt. 13: 3 – 9, 18 – 23; Mk. 4: 3 – 9, 13 – 20; Lk. 8: 4 – 8, 9 – 18). The “Word” is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.   The Harvest is about people who receive Jesus Christ as their Saviour and Lord, that is what is popularly called being “born again of water and the Spirit” (Jn. 3: 3, 5, 7). This not about money and wealth. It is not about the popular and unbiblical “Law of Sowing and Reaping” money. This is not about feeding people’s hunger and thirst for money which is called greed. It is about satisfying, what Jesus called, “the hunger and thirst for righteousness” (Matt. 5: 10) or a “right relationship with Jesus Christ, empowered by the Holy Spirit”.

Or as Paul so vividly described, “But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and hurtful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is the root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced their hearts with many pangs” (1 Tim. 6: 9 – 10). These so-called prosperity preachers, like Benny Hinn, have led people far away from Jesus by making money the proof of His love and Gospel. They forget what Jesus said to the rich young man after being very impressed with him. “And Jesus said to him, “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me” (Matt. 19: 21 – 22). Like many people who are attracted to Jesus, he was not willing to do what is the first requirement.

In Oral Roberts: An American Life, biographer David Edwin Harrell, Jr., describes how Roberts discovered the prosperity gospel and how it became the centerpiece of his message. He also writes:

Oral Roberts’ best-known and most far-reaching brainchild was the Seed-Faith message. Roberts taught that money and material things donated to his organization were the seeds of prosperity and material blessings from God, and that God promises to multiply in miraculous ways whatever is given–and give many times more back to the donor. It was a simple, quasi-spiritual get-rich-quick scheme that appealed mainly to poor, disadvantaged, and desperate people. It generated untold millions for Roberts’ empire and was quickly adopted by a host of similarly-oriented Pentecostal and Charismatic media ministries. The Seed-Faith principle is the main cash-cow that built and has supported vast networks of televangelists who barter for their viewers’ money with fervent promises of “miracles”–and the miracles are invariably described in terms of material blessings, mainly money.

… Furthermore, the heir to Hagin’s standing as chief of the word-faith preachers is Kenneth Copeland, who went into television ministry after working as chauffeur and pilot to Oral Roberts. So even though it would not be quite accurate to portray Oral Roberts as an aggressive proponent of word-faith doctrines, he acted as more of an ally than an opponent to the movement.

One thing all the obituaries agree on is that Oral Roberts paved the way for all the charismatic televangelists and faith-healers who dominate religious television today. He did more than anyone in the early Pentecostal movement to influence mainstream evangelicalism. He parlayed his television ministry into a vast empire that has left a deep mark on the church worldwide. In many places today, including some of the world’s most illiterate and poverty-stricken regions, Oral Roberts’ Seed-Faith concept is actually better known than the doctrine of justification by faith.

Oral Roberts Insists Son Did Nothing Wrong

TULSA, Okla. — Oral Roberts says he doesn’t think his son, who has been accused of misspending funds at the university the evangelist founded, did anything wrong.

In a visit to the Oral Roberts University campus Saturday, the 91-year-old Roberts said that he and Richard Roberts didn’t discuss his son’s decision to resign as the school’s president in late 2007.

The younger Roberts, a televangelist, was accused with his wife, Lindsay, of spending money on shopping sprees, home improvements and a stable of horses for their daughters at a time when ORU was badly in debt. The couple have denied wrongdoing.

ORAL AND RICHARD ROBERTS https://www.scribd.com/doc/17098294

BIG MISTAKE BY COPELAND AND FRIENDS   http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-1Jc

SAM AND BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDRELS http://wp.me/p2M7AJ-Lf
BENNY HINN THE SCOUNDREL http://www.scribd.com/doc/17673980 

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